Where was the Sabbath Abolished?

[Leaf473]

The word released is translated from a Greek word which means rendered idle, hence unproductive. Something rendered idle is still there. It just isn't productive in the sense to which it was used previously.

If I'm reading Thayer's correctly here, it's use in Romans 7:6 is
"to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from, anyone; to terminate all contact with one"

Strong's Greek: 2673. καταργέω (katargeó) -- To abolish, to nullify, to render ineffective, to bring to an end

 

[CoreyD]

I provided the context of the scripture- you seem to keep wanting to focus on one verse and not the surrounding context, that will get one very lost in trying to do and follow what the scriptures are really teaching. It’s not our truth that matters, so getting the context wrong is not going to help anyone in the long run. We are only sanctified by the Truth of God’s Word John 17:17 and only God can sanctify us Eze 20:12 so plucking out a verse here or there is not the way for real conversion through God’s Word. We need to prayerfully and carefully study the context and see how it compares to others scriptures. No scripture can contradict the teachings of Jesus.

I think if you really studied the different laws and their meanings you can answer your own question.

The law that is perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7 written by the finger of God Exo 32:16 Exo 31:18 placed inside the ark of the covenant that is holy, righteous and good Psa 119:172 Rom 7:12 1 John 5:3 that reveals what sin is Mat 5:19-30 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7 and what all man will be Judged by James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 Ecc 12:13-14 Rev 22:14-15 will never turn into the law that is grievous, against, or contrary or the laws that were handwritten by Moses, placed outside the ark as a witness against Deut 31:24-26 that was added because of transgression for breaking God’s holy law that is sin when transgressing. Many confuse these different laws, but unless we understand the differences, their purpose it will make the NT almost impossible to understand.

You don't want to answer the question?
Okay. You obviously have a reason.
You take care.

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@SabbathBlessings
I can answer the question, but I wanted you to answer it, because there is only one way to answer it, and that answer is not one you would be comfortable with.

 

[CoreyD]

If I'm reading Thayer's correctly here, it's use in Romans 7:6 is
"to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from, anyone; to terminate all contact with one"

Strong's Greek: 2673. καταργέω (katargeó) -- To abolish, to nullify, to render ineffective, to bring to an end

Thank you.
Usage: (a) I make idle (inactive), make of no effect, annul, abolish, bring to naught, (b) I discharge, sever, separate from.

 

[Gary K]

What Law is being referred to at Galatians 3:19-25?

What law is being referred to in Galatians 5:21, 22?

 

[CoreyD]

What law is being referred to in Galatians 5:21, 22?

Reading Galatians 5:19-23, we are told that the works of the flesh and the works, or fruit of the spirit are being considered here.
Verse 23, says, "Against such things there is no law."

Thus, unlike those who insist on living by the Mosaic Law code, being discussed in Galatians 3, one who walks by spirit, does not need a law code dictating not to murder, steal, commit adultery, and so forth.
Do you know why?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You don't want to answer the question?
Okay. You obviously have a reason.
You take care.

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@SabbathBlessings
I can answer the question, but I wanted you to answer it, because there is only one way to answer it, and that answer is not one you would be comfortable with.

I am always comfortable and welcome the Truth- I just know Paul would never countermand God or Jesus and any teaching that suggests that is not a teaching we should follow. I pretty much answered your question- where does the commandment of thou shalt not commit adultery come from- but that is not what Paul is teaching here or anywhere, that we can commit adultery and sin. So obviously the passage means something other than that. I tried to give some background, but we have free will to believe what we want. Thanks for the chat and I wish you well in seeking Truth to God’s Word.

 

[HIM]

hat law is being referred to in Galatians 5:21, 22?

Book of the Law, which would include the Ten because they are repeated in it.

 

[HIM]

If I'm reading Thayer's correctly here, it's use in Romans 7:6 is
"to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from, anyone; to terminate all contact with one"

Strong's Greek: 2673. καταργέω (katargeó) -- To abolish, to nullify, to render ineffective, to bring to an end

You are missing something. What the word means is more important than how the word is translated or used in English. So what does the word mean?

 

[HIM]

I would agree with this, provided it does not mean something other than what it says.
However, the law was never productive. In other words, its purpose was not to do what persons are saying obeying the command to keep a weekly Sabbath does. Hebrews 7:18; Romans 8:3

Not sure why you posted Heb 7:18. That has nothing to do with what is written in Romans.

It showed up transgressions. Romans 3:20; Romans 4:15; Galatians 3:19

Us not up right?

I think you lost me a bit.
How are we rendered idle, again? That part is not clear. Can you clarify with scripture?

Shall we continue in sin that grace abound? God forbid! How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein.
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. And if the Son shall make us free we are indeed! Behold all is new and of God! For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes we were healed.

Also, are you saying that the Gentiles are under that Law? Is there a scripture that tells us when that happened?

How can one be under that which they become? For the Law is in our hearts and in our minds. His Word is in our hearts and in our mouths that we do it. That is the faith in which we preach. That is the faith that establishes the Law and the Just live by.

 

[Leaf473]

You are missing something. What the word means is more important than how the word is translated or used in English. So what does the word mean?

You lost me there Kαταργέω is a Greek word, it's not used in English.

 

[HIM]

You lost me there Kαταργέω is a Greek word, it's not used in English.

Hint, It is a compound word. What do those words mean? Most lexicons give the definition of the word first then how it is perceived in it's usage. How it is perceived in it's usage is not the definition. The perception is subjective to one's interpretation.

Strong's, bold emphasis mine
G2673 καταργέω katargeo (kat-ar-ǰe'-ō) v.
1. to be entirely idle (useless).
2. to render entirely idle (useless).
{literally or figuratively}
[from G2596 and G691]

Leaf 2546 is fully and 691 is idle

So If something or someone is fully idle then it is inactive, not in use. Not abolished or destroyed as some translations and scholars submit. Because if it is idle it is still there, just not in use.

LSJ, bold emphasis mine:
καταργ-έω , leave unemployed or idle , Χέρα E. Ph. 753 ; κατηργηκέναι τοὺς καιρούς to have missed the opportunities, Plb. Fr. 176 ; κ. τὴν γῆν make the ground useless, cumber it, Ev.Luc. 13.7 .
2. cause to be idle, hinder in one's work, LXX 2 Es. 4.21 , POxy. 38.17 (i A.D.) : — Pass. , LXX 2 Es. 6.8 ; to be rendered or lie idle, PFlor. 176.7 (iii A.D.) , etc. II make of no effect, Ep.Rom. 3.3,31, al.: — Pass. , to be abolished, cease , ib.6.6, 1 Ep.Cor. 2.6 , etc.; κ. ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου to be set free from . . , Ep.Rom. 7.2 ; to be parted , ἀπὸ Χριστοῦ Ep.Gal. 5.4 .

 

[Gary K]

Reading Galatians 5:19-23, we are told that the works of the flesh and the works, or fruit of the spirit are being considered here.
Verse 23, says, "Against such things there is no law."

Thus, unlike those who insist on living by the Mosaic Law code, being discussed in Galatians 3, one who walks by spirit, does not need a law code dictating not to murder, steal, commit adultery, and so forth.
Do you know why?

You're mistaken again. No law includes the 10 commandments. The fruit of the Spirit aligns us with all 10 of them. The works of the flesh are opposed to the fruit of the Spirit.

 

[CoreyD]

I am always comfortable and welcome the Truth- I just know Paul would never countermand God or Jesus and any teaching that suggests that is not a teaching we should follow.

Because we have an idea in our head, does not mean our idea is true. You would agree.
So, because one doesn't understand something in scripture, but one has an idea that makes one believe something is contradictory, that does not mean there is a contradiction. That's all in one's head.

The facts of scripture, are what were presented to you - namely, that the Law, with its ordinances, including the Sabbath, is not binding on Christians.

However, I have had much experience talking with Sabbath believers. That's why I simply ask questions and let them give me the answer, because I know if they are honest, they will answer the question directly, and at some point, they will see that the answer is not compatible with what they believe.
Or, they will not answer the question, but talk around it.

In either case, I leave it there, because I am familiar with how the talking around goes.

I pretty much answered your question-

Pretty much?
This is an example - pretty much answered but didn't directly answer.
You are pretty much following the familiar 'script', of which I am experienced.

where does the commandment of thou shalt not commit adultery come from- but that is not what Paul is teaching here or anywhere, that we can commit adultery and sin. So obviously the passage means something other than that.

Paul refered to one of the ten commandments, in saying that the Law, which includes that command, as well as the Sabbath, was abolished.

If I show someone that, and they argue that if this is the case, then there is no restraint from sin, I know the person got the point. they saw it clear, but what they are trying to do now is, make sense of the scripture, according to their view.
So, when I show them that Paul addressed their concern, right there in scripture, they will not see that, because unless the scriptures fit their view, they don't make sense.

I tried to give some background, but we have free will to believe what we want.

Of course we do. Including die hard Sabbath keepers. We knew that from the beginning.

Thanks for the chat and I wish you well in seeking Truth to God’s Word.

Thank you. I am not seeking Truth of God's Word.

...and certainly not truth as it relates to the Sabbath, since the scriptures are clear that the Law was given only o the Jews, and those who seek to be bound by it today, are actually under a curse, and have rejected the free gift of God, that released from that curse, because Christ fulfilled the law thus removing it.

I have found the truth of God's word. Millions have. So can you.

Paul, was well aware of 'die hard Mosaic' law keepers of his day.
He said, at Romans 10:2-4
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

All Sabbath keepers today, whom I have met, fit that description.
I see your zeal. I appreciate you, and talking to you. May you have peace.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Because we have an idea in our head, does not mean our idea is true. You would agree.
So, because one doesn't understand something in scripture, but one has an idea that makes one believe something is contradictory, that does not mean there is a contradiction. That's all in one's head.

The facts of scripture, are what were presented to you - namely, that the Law, with its ordinances, including the Sabbath, is not binding on Christians.

However, I have had much experience talking with Sabbath believers. That's why I simply ask questions and let them give me the answer, because I know if they are honest, they will answer the question directly, and at some point, they will see that the answer is not compatible with what they believe.
Or, they will not answer the question, but talk around it.

In either case, I leave it there, because I am familiar with how the talking around goes.


Pretty much?
This is an example - pretty much answered but didn't directly answer.
You are pretty much following the familiar 'script', of which I am experienced.


Paul refered to one of the ten commandments, in saying that the Law, which includes that command, as well as the Sabbath, was abolished.

If I show someone that, and they argue that if this is the case, then there is no restraint from sin, I know the person got the point. they saw it clear, but what they are trying to do now is, make sense of the scripture, according to their view.
So, when I show them that Paul addressed their concern, right there in scripture, they will not see that, because unless the scriptures fit their view, they don't make sense.


Of course we do. Including die hard Sabbath keepers. We knew that from the beginning.


Thank you. I am not seeking Truth of God's Word.

...and certainly not truth as it relates to the Sabbath, since the scriptures are clear that the Law was given only o the Jews, and those who seek to be bound by it today, are actually under a curse, and have rejected the free gift of God, that released from that curse, because Christ fulfilled the law thus removing it.

I have found the truth of God's word. Millions have. So can you.

Paul, was well aware of 'die hard Mosaic' law keepers of his day.
He said, at Romans 10:2-4
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

All Sabbath keepers today, whom I have met, fit that description.
I see your zeal. I appreciate you, and talking to you. May you have peace.

Can you please quote one scripture where God or Jesus says we don’t have the keep the Sabbath commandment? God blessed the Sabbath, only He can reverse it Num 23:20 God wrote the Sabbath with His own finger Exo 32:16- please show me where man can countermand God’s Authority. We can’t, that is not a teaching from God’s Word- just the deceiver. God said He would not alter His Words Psa 89:34 so thats some Big shoes to fill to try to find scripture to countermand a thus saith the Lord.

All of the thus saith the Lords and there are plenty tell us to keep the Sabbath and He warns not to profane it. Christ relates profaning the Sabbath with doing evil. God blesses those who keep the Sabbath and says it is what is doing righteousness. Isa 56:1-6 Can you show me from scripture where Christ righteousness ever changes? We are told it’s everlasting Psa 119:142. Christ changes not, and either does His Sabbath thus saith the Lord Isa 66:22-23

All of God’s commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 so I prefer to follow God’s Truth and live by the Words that proceed out of the mouth of God over following what man teaches. It’s what Jesus told us to follow Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13. I don’t know how one claims faith in Jesus but does believe or do His teachings. Jesus even led by example, Luke 4:16, our example to follow 1 John 2:6. No one is ever going to find themselves off the narrow path by obeying and following Jesus, but Jesus said when we keep our rules over obeying the commandments of God we end up in a ditch. Mat 15:3-14. The direction of our path is made by our choices. Jesus never told anyone to take the move popular path, but sadly He predicts thats the path most people take, despite Jesus personally showing us the WAY. I am not sure what could possible be more important than spending time with God on the day He set aside sanctified for holy use, because man can’t sanctify themselves we need God Eze 20:12 yet so many try. Following God the way He asks requires a lifestyle change, sadly most want God to fit around their lifestyle. We are to be God’s servants, He is our Master.

 

[CoreyD]

Not sure why you posted Heb 7:18. That has nothing to do with what is written in Romans.

Are you sure you read the correct verse?

Hebrews 7:18 So the former commandment is set aside because it was weak and useless
Romans 8:3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh

They both look like they are talking about the law being weak.

Us not up right?

Pardon me? I'm not sure what you are asking.

Shall we continue in sin that grace abound? God forbid! How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein.
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. And if the Son shall make us free we are indeed! Behold all is new and of God! For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes we were healed.

Perhaps the problem may be how we are viewing the word idle.
What does idle mean to you? How are you using it in this scripture?

How can one be under that which they become? For the Law is in our hearts and in our minds. His Word is in our hearts and in our mouths that we do it. That is the faith in which we preach. That is the faith that establishes the Law and the Just live by.

I understand what you are saying.
I agree that the scriptures say we uphold or establish law by works of faith Romans 3:31. Romans 8:4 so that the righteous standard of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

What would you say is the law of faith which is contrasted with works of law? Romans 3:27, 28

 

[CoreyD]

You're mistaken again. No law includes the 10 commandments. The fruit of the Spirit aligns us with all 10 of them. The works of the flesh are opposed to the fruit of the Spirit.

I know you believe this. It's what you say.
However, the scriptures are useful for teaching, and correcting. 2 Timothy 3:16
So, I am looking to the scriptures.

Romans 8:1-8
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

There is reference to the ten commandments here, which are part of the law of Moses. However, it's referred to as being "weak through the flesh".
What the law could not do, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

This scripture harmonizes with the one in Galatians 5:13-25.

If you had a dull knife, that could not cut bread, would you buy a brand new sharp knife to do what the dull knife could not do, in order to "align with" the dull knife?

 

[Leaf473]

Hint, It is a compound word. What do those words mean? Most lexicons give the definition of the word first then how it is perceived in it's usage. How it is perceived in it's usage is not the definition. The perception is subjective to one's interpretation.

Strong's, bold emphasis mine
G2673 καταργέω katargeo (kat-ar-ǰe'-ō) v.
1. to be entirely idle (useless).
2. to render entirely idle (useless).
{literally or figuratively}
[from G2596 and G691]

Leaf 2546 is fully and 691 is idle

So If something or someone is fully idle then it is inactive, not in use. Not abolished or destroyed as some translations and scholars submit. Because if it is idle it is still there, just not in use.

LSJ, bold emphasis mine:
καταργ-έω , leave unemployed or idle , Χέρα E. Ph. 753 ; κατηργηκέναι τοὺς καιρούς to have missed the opportunities, Plb. Fr. 176 ; κ. τὴν γῆν make the ground useless, cumber it, Ev.Luc. 13.7 .
2. cause to be idle, hinder in one's work, LXX 2 Es. 4.21 , POxy. 38.17 (i A.D.) : — Pass. , LXX 2 Es. 6.8 ; to be rendered or lie idle, PFlor. 176.7 (iii A.D.) , etc. II make of no effect, Ep.Rom. 3.3,31, al.: — Pass. , to be abolished, cease , ib.6.6, 1 Ep.Cor. 2.6 , etc.; κ. ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου to be set free from . . , Ep.Rom. 7.2 ; to be parted , ἀπὸ Χριστοῦ Ep.Gal. 5.4 .

In my experience, compound words are not always just the sum of their parts. They may take on a usage beyond those parts, which is probably what the scholars are looking at who suggest "abolish".

I think
released
delivered
or
freed
all work well.

Romans 7:6 - Bible Gateway

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[CoreyD]

Can you please quote one scripture where God or Jesus says we don’t have the keep the Sabbath commandment?

Are you an Israelite?
Why are you saying "where God or Jesus says we don’t..."?
Where does God, or Jesus say, "we do have to keep the Weekly Sabbath"?

If you were a Jew, I could well understand an argument against any change. However, I believe you are Gentile, who accepts Christianity. Correct me, if I am wrong.

Not even Adam was given a command to keep a Weekly, ot Yearly Sabbath. Nor, Abraham.
The only ones required to keep Sabbaths was Israel. Exodus 31:16, 17; Deuteronomy 5:3, 15
That did not change.

God blessed the Sabbath, only He can reverse it Num 23:20

Blessing something or someone means giving a command to keep it?
Would that not mean God commanded us to keep Abraham's Day? Genesis 14:19

God wrote the Sabbath with His own finger Exo 32:16- please show me where man can countermand God’s Authority. We can’t, that is not a teaching from God’s Word- just the deceiver. God said He would not alter His Words Psa 89:34 so thats some Big shoes to fill to try to find scripture to countermand a thus saith the Lord.

Are you also aware that the means by which God transmitted his commands has no bearing on whether one is to obey those commands or not, but that they should all be obeyed by those given those commands?
Is that not why the nation of Israel lost out, because the broke the covenant.

For example, who wrote the words at Exodus 34:17-27? Was it not Moses? Exodus 34:28
These words include keeping the Sabbath day holy. They are not less important than those on the tablets.

All of the thus saith the Lords and there are plenty tell us to keep the Sabbath and He warns not to profane it. Christ relates profaning the Sabbath with doing evil. God blesses those who keep the Sabbath and says it is what is doing righteousness. Isa 56:1-6 Can you show me from scripture where Christ righteousness ever changes? We are told it’s everlasting Psa 119:142. Christ changes not, and either does His Sabbath thus saith the Lord Isa 66:22-23

Yes. Israelites. They were commanded to keep the sabbath.
It was required of them to keep all of the law, in order to receive a blessing.

All of God’s commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 so I prefer to follow God’s Truth and live by the Words that proceed out of the mouth of God over following what man teaches. It’s what Jesus told us to follow Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13. I don’t know how one claims faith in Jesus but does believe or do His teachings. Jesus even led by example, Luke 4:16, our example to follow 1 John 2:6. No one is ever going to find themselves off the narrow path by obeying and following Jesus, but Jesus said when we keep our rules over obeying the commandments of God we end up in a ditch. Mat 15:3-14. The direction of our path is made by our choices. Jesus never told anyone to take the move popular path, but sadly He predicts thats the path most people take, despite Jesus personally showing us the WAY. I am not sure what could possible be more important than spending time with God on the day He set aside sanctified for holy use, because man can’t sanctify themselves we need God Eze 20:12 yet so many try.

Jesus was a Jew.
As a Jew, Jesus obeyed the Law, and taught his disciples to do the same. Matthew 23:3
Jesus said he came to the lost sheep of Israel... Not the Gentiles. Matthew 15:24

But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

He commanded his disciples to do the same. Matthew 10:5, 6

5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus knew that the time would come, when his death would open the way for the Gentiles.
How was that possible? There is only one way that could happen. Please read Ephesians 2:11-22
Verses 14-16 are the verses you want to give attention to.

Do you know why that "law of commandments and decrees" included the ten commandments?
Please read verse 12 for the answer.

The Gentiles were not in the covenant, and the covenant was not made without the ten commandments.
So, if one claims that these "law of commandments and decrees" did not include, the ten commandments, we can be sure that person is not honest.
Nor do they care much for scripture, more than their teachings.

The scriptures you referenced, applies to them. Matthew 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Are you an Israelite?
Why are you saying "where God or Jesus says we don’t..."?
Where does God, or Jesus say, "we do have to keep the Weekly Sabbath"?

If you were a Jew, I could well understand an argument against any change. However, I believe you are Gentile, who accepts Christianity. Correct me, if I am wrong.

Not even Adam was given a command to keep a Weekly, ot Yearly Sabbath. Nor, Abraham.
The only ones required to keep Sabbaths was Israel. Exodus 31:16, 17; Deuteronomy 5:3, 15
That did not change.


Blessing something or someone means giving a command to keep it?
Would that not mean God commanded us to keep Abraham's Day? Genesis 14:19


Are you also aware that the means by which God transmitted his commands has no bearing on whether one is to obey those commands or not, but that they should all be obeyed by those given those commands?
Is that not why the nation of Israel lost out, because the broke the covenant.

For example, who wrote the words at Exodus 34:17-27? Was it not Moses? Exodus 34:28
These words include keeping the Sabbath day holy. They are not less important than those on the tablets.


Yes. Israelites. They were commanded to keep the sabbath.
It was required of them to keep all of the law, in order to receive a blessing.


Jesus was a Jew.
As a Jew, Jesus obeyed the Law, and taught his disciples to do the same. Matthew 23:3
Jesus said he came to the lost sheep of Israel... Not the Gentiles. Matthew 15:24

He commanded his disciples to do the same. Matthew 10:5, 6


Jesus knew that the time would come, when his death would open the way for the Gentiles.
How was that possible? There is only one way that could happen. Please read Ephesians 2:11-22
Verses 14-16 are the verses you want to give attention to.

Do you know why that "law of commandments and decrees" included the ten commandments?
Please read verse 12 for the answer.

The Gentiles were not in the covenant, and the covenant was not made without the ten commandments.
So, if one claims that these "law of commandments and decrees" did not include, the ten commandments, we can be sure that person is not honest.
Nor do they care much for scripture, more than their teachings.

The scriptures you referenced, applies to them. Matthew 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

And yet not one scripture you provided says we can break the Sabbath commandment. Christ said the Sabbath was made for everyone Isa 56:1-6 for mankind Mat 2:27. I will stick with what God said, but thanks for your view and all gets sorted out soon enough.

 

[Gary K]

I know you believe this. It's what you say.
However, the scriptures are useful for teaching, and correcting. 2 Timothy 3:16
So, I am looking to the scriptures.

Romans 8:1-8
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

There is reference to the ten commandments here, which are part of the law of Moses. However, it's referred to as being "weak through the flesh".
What the law could not do, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

This scripture harmonizes with the one in Galatians 5:13-25.

If you had a dull knife, that could not cut bread, would you buy a brand new sharp knife to do what the dull knife could not do, in order to "align with" the dull knife?

I find it interesting that you quote a passage from Romans that agrees with the passage from Galatians that speaks to the fruit of the Spirit not violating the 10 commandments, but for some reason you think Paul disagrees with himself. Why would an inspired Bible writer argue against himself?