But when Paul shows that his own revelation of the things of God involves the teaching of the Spirit. We can see others having revelation n the same letter and this revelation is the things God taught them in their spirit and when spoken forth they are in prophecy which is for all to LEARN by. Learning relates to learning a teaching from God through the ones prophesying.
Not all believers are prophets. And prophets heard an audible voice not impressions or the like.
I said this,
"What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
Here we see that the Corinthians had the word come out from them.
This shows they had God working in them and the teaching and revelation of the Spirit in them.
I can ask you if God gives gifts unto men, and some of those gifts involves teaching as a teacher or pastor, or apostle, prophet and even an evangelist.
How do they know the teaching and things of God? If we see that men like Paul said that
he and whoever else he spoke of in 1 Cor 2:13, had the Holy Ghost teach and we know that the Holy Ghost will guide in to all truth and the anointing teaches all things. Then can not all believers say as well that the teaching gift from God is only able to function as Christ works in him effectually and as the Father and the Holy Ghost teach him and this is by revelation?
37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord." (1 Corinthians 14:36,37)
How would they be able to acknowledge that what Paul was was true and from God? Well, because they are spiritual and prophets and have God working in them revealing and teaching them.."
These are the exact same words from your post #1471. I pointed out your errors in my rebuttal in post #1480. Reply to my rebuttal if you have anything to add.
No the text says
“What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?”
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Well, that's not what you said in your post. You said,
"even if they had the word of God come out from them do they think they are the only ones to have this?" - the plain reading of which is: are they the only ones to have the word of God come out of them.
no Paul said,
“What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?”.
The context is clearly that the Corinthians were in a confusion and allowing certain thins that were disorderly and not Gods order. They had thought they were able to do this perhaps because the word of God came from them and acted like it came from them only. But the context Paul shows is that this order of God Paul was commanding for the church was for all the churches . Not just them.They did not originate the word of God coming out of the body and ministering this order was for all the saints.
We see that the word of God came out of other believers also, not just the apostles. We read of Prophets all over the place in the New testament. They speak forth the word of God and we read of overseers also speaking the word of God ( not just reading scripture)
Did you not notice the question marks in that verse? Those are sarcastic rhetorical questions (in response to the Corinthians' pride).....
Here's the 1st -
"Was it from you that the word of God came?"
Of course not, it came from the apostles.
Here's the 2nd -
"Or are you the only ones it has reached?"
Of course not, other churches also received it from the apostles.
This is the complete opposite of what you thought.
I did and they seem to agree with what I said,
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(36) What?—The church at Corinth had on some of these points
acted at variance with the practice of the other churches, and in a manner which assumed an independence of St. Paul’s apostolic authority. He therefore asks them, with something of sarcastic indignation, whether they
are the source from whence the word of God has come, or whether they
think themselves its sole recipients, that they should set themselves above the other churches, and above him?"
Here the commentator does not say that they did not have the word of God come out from them. You in a almost cultish way say that and that only Paul had the teaching of the Holy Ghost and a few other apostles.
Read the commentaries you posted again. They agree with me, not you!!!
Ellicott does not say the word of God came from the Corinthians. He agrees with me that Paul was being sarcastic. Ellicott says....
He therefore asks them, with something of sarcastic indignation, whether they are the source from whence the word of God has come
Do you seriously think the Corinthians were the source of God's word?
and
Benson Commentary
1 Corinthians 14:36-38. What! came the word of God out from you? — Are ye of Corinth,
the first church in the world, by whose example all others should be modelled? Or came it unto you only? — Are you the only Christian society that has received the true gospel? If not, conform herein to the custom of all the churches. These questions the apostle asks, to cut off every pretence for women’s teaching in the church. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual —
Endowed with any extraordinary gift of the Spirit; let him acknowledge, &c. — Let him prove that
he is indeed under the influence of the Divine Spirit, by his submission and obedience to these determinations, and confess that the things that I now write unto you are the commandments of the Lord
"
Benson agrees with me....
"What! came the word of God out from you? — Are ye of Corinth, the first church in the world, by whose example all others should be modelled? "
Well? Was the Corinthian church the 1st in the world that all others are modelled on?
No of course it wasn't.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
What! came the word of God out from you? - The meaning of this is, "Is the church at Corinth the "mother church?" Was it first established; or has it been alone in sending forth the Word of God? You have adopted customs which are unusual. You have permitted women to speak in a manner unknown to other churches; see 1 Corinthians 11:16. You have admitted irregularity and confusion unknown in all the others. You have allowed many to speak at the same time, and have tolerated confusion and disorder. Have you any "right" thus to differ from others? Have you any authority, as it were, to dictate to them, to teach them, contrary to their uniform custom, to allow these disorders? Should you not rather be conformed to them, and observe the rules of the churches which are older than yours?" The "argument" here is, that the church at Corinth was "not" the first that was established; that it was one of the "last" that had been founded; and that it could, therefore, claim no right to differ from others, or to prescribe to them. The same argument is employed in 1 Corinthians 11:16; see Note."
Barnes agrees with me....
What! came the word of God out from you? - The meaning of this is, "Is the church at Corinth the "mother church?" Was it first established;
Was the Corinthian church the 'mother church' ? No, of course it wasn't.
And here's a few more commentaries....
Alford
36-40.] General Conclusion: the unseemliness and absurdity of their pretending to originate customs unknown to other churches, as if the word of God first went forth from them:
Barclay
Were they the originators of the Christian Church? Had they a monopoly of the gospel truth?
Bengal
What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:36. ἢ, ἢ) Latin an—an? [which is used in the second part of a disjunctive interrogation] You, Corinthians, (likewise you, Romans) are neither first nor alone.
Calvin
"Did the word of God," says he, "come out from you?" that is, "Did it originate with you?" "Has it ended with you?" that is, "Will it spread no farther?" The design of the admonition is this -- that they may not, without having any regard to others, please themselves in their own contrivances or customs. And this is a doctrine of general application; for no Church should be taken up with itself exclusively, to the neglect of others;
Cambridge
36. What? came the word of God out from you?] The self-assertion of the Corinthians was so great that they needed to be reminded that they had received the doctrine of Christ through the ministry of St Paul, and that it had not originated among themselves.
Chrysostom
And here, "What? was it from you that the word of God went forth? or came it unto you alone?" i. e., "neither first, nor alone are ye believers
Clarke
Came the word of God out from you? - Was it from you that other Churches received the Gospel? Are you the mother Church? that you should have rules, and orders, and customs, different from all others; and set yourselves up for a model to be copied by all the Churches of Christ?
Coffman
This was Paul’s sarcastic denunciation of the pretensions of the Corinthians, having the impact of "Surely, you people could not believe that you are some kind of Mother Church!"
Contending for the Faith commentary
Paul asks two rhetorical questions here, both demanding a negative answer. The "word of God" refers to the gospel.
Constable's Expository Notes
Their arrogance evidently drew this warning. The Corinthian church was not the mother church nor was it the only church to which the gospel had come (cf. 1 Corinthians 11:16; 1 Corinthians 14:33 b). Therefore the Corinthian readers should submit to the apostle’s direction (cf. 1 Corinthians 9:1-23).
Darby
With all their gifts, the word did not come out from the Corinthians, nor had it come unto them only; they ought to submit to the universal order of the Spirit in the assembly.
Gill
What? came the word of God out from you?.... That you must give laws to other churches, and introduce new customs and practices never known or used before? No; the word of the Lord came out of Zion,
Haydock
Did the word of God first come out from you? This he says, to check these new preachers, by putting them in mind, that they are not the first, nor the only Christians, and so must conform themselves to the discipline practised in other Churches
ICC
The meaning is, ‘Were you the starting-point of the Gospel? or were you its only destination?
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown
I wish to know, do you pretend that your church is the first church FROM which the gospel word came, that you should give the law to all others? Or are you the only persons In, fro whom it has come?
Kingcomments
1Cor 14:36. Paul says to the Corinthians: “Was it from you that the Word of God [first] went forth?” By that he means: ‘The Word of God originated from God Himself and not from you, right? You are not able to determine what should happen in church, as if God has not said the necessary things about that, are you?’
Lange
Or went the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?—i.e., ‘are you the original church, so that your wisdom is to set the standard of propriety; or are you the only church, so that you are at liberty to stand alone by yourselves and your own conceits?’
Matthew Henry
Now, says the apostle, to beat down this arrogant humour, "Came the gospel out from you? Or came it to you only? v. 36. Did Christianity come our of Corinth? was its original among you? Or, if not, is it now limited and confined to you? are you the only church favoured with divine revelations, that you will depart from the decent usages of all other churches, and, to make ostentation of your spiritual gifts, bring confusion into Christian assemblies? How intolerably assuming is this behaviour! Pray bethink yourselves."
People's New Testament
14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? A rebuke. The Corinthian church must receive instruction, not give it. It did not send out the word of God, but the word of God was sent to it.
Matthew Poole
He therefore asks them, what they thought of themselves? Whether they thought themselves the only churches in the world, or were the first that believed in Christ, so that the gospel went out from them, and they might give law to all churches? There were churches at Jerusalem, and in several other places, before there was any church at Corinth, so as the gospel came unto them from other churches, and did not go out from them to other churches.
Pulpit Commentary
Verse 36. - What? An indignant exclamation. Came the word of God out from you? Are you the authors of the Christian system, that you are to lay down rules about it? No rebuke was too strong for the pretensions of these Corinthians.
Smith
Now Paul is saying, Do you think you originated the things of God? [Do you think that you set the standards? Do you think you set the rules, that the Word of God has come forth to you?] Or only to you that you have a special dispensation? ( 1 Corinthians 14:36 ).
Wesley's Notes
14:36 Are ye of Corinth either the first or the only Christians?
As usual, not a single commentator agrees with your bizarre interpretation.
You make so many mistakes and need much correction.
I do not use the words "inner impressions or stirrings" in this area. This is your straw man fallacy talk you do this all over this thread many many times.
I talk of them hearing Gods voice and walking in the Spirit and being taught by the Spirit. This teaching comes through revelation of all things ( which would include the scriptures and when others preached or taught) they need spiritual discernment and he that is spiritual judgeth ( discerns) all things.
"Impressions" is the term that charismatics themselves most commonly use. It is them I am addressing as much as you. They also use words like intuition (as Carl does), nudges (as Carl does), feelings (as Carl does), inner prompting (as Carl does) etc. At least they are honest in how they "hear God's voice" and don't shy away from describing what they experience like you do. We know you don't hear an audible voice so it is obviously something that you inaudibly perceive. You are not unique so I suspect you "hear God's voice" in exactly the same way as other charismatics. In past threads you have been happy to use the word "impressions". Be honest, the reason you don't like using that term now is because you know it is nowhere to be found in scripture. You have been caught out.
