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Many others seek and exploit any position that grants them access to children. They are quintessential wolves in sheep's clothing. Not true priests or ministers or teachers or coaches, but predators in disguise.
exactly! A vast majority of priests, ministers, teachers, and coaches are not predators. Those who do such things should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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Ah I should've cherry picked specific stories. How about just looking though all that's available if you really want a full understanding?
This gish gallup attempt doesn't work for me. When each of your links leads to umpteen further links then you lose any credibility you might want in producing examples. If I pick the very first and it's obvious the guy had an agenda (a fundamentalist religious one at that) in which case it fails then you have failed.

I'm not interested in trolling the internet looking for something you should be supplying.
 
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Yes.

I'm just curious. What are you trying to prove, exactly?
I'm proving that your claims were pulled out of thin air with nothing to back them up. And were patently wrong.

'Most priests who abused others didn’t rape children- ie those who didn’t reach puberty. They were teens or older.'

Completely wrong.

'In the case in the United States, however, most victims were males that were teens or older.'

Again, completely wrong.
 
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Page ten literally says "Yet, the data on priests show that 22 percent of vic- tims were age ten and under, while the majority of victims were pubescent or postpubescent."
75% were 13 and under. That specifically contradicts everything you've said about the ages of the victims. I refuse to allow a conversation to continue when you are making up claims.
 
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Many others seek and exploit any position that grants them access to children. They are quintessential wolves in sheep's clothing. Not true priests or ministers or teachers or coaches, but predators in disguise.
Ah. So a priest who rapes a child isn't actually a priest. Maybe you can find something from maybe any Catholic investigation where, instead of apologising for the horror, they make the excuse that 'Hey - he wasn't a real priest. It was just a disguise he was using.'
 
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Ah. So a priest who rapes a child isn't actually a priest. Maybe you can find something from maybe any Catholic investigation where, instead of apologising for the horror, they make the excuse that 'Hey - he wasn't a real priest. It was just a disguise he was using.'
That's what defrocking is all about.
 
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This gish gallup attempt doesn't work for me. When each of your links leads to umpteen further links then you lose any credibility you might want in producing examples. If I pick the very first and it's obvious the guy had an agenda (a fundamentalist religious one at that) in which case it fails then you have failed.

I'm not interested in trolling the internet looking for something you should be supplying.
If you were interested in this subject, you would do a little research instead of remaining ignorant.
 
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What is a Christian left? A misnomer in all its sense. Christians full stop. We all follow one ideal - God's. I don't affix my political leaning to my faith. My faith may guide my political ideology but never the other way around.

If people want to mobilize to vote let them but keep faith out of it. Render unto Caesar what is his' and to God His'. We while living in this world is not of this world.
You might as well ask, "What is Christian right?"

I do agree whole heartedly that I don't fix my political leaning to my faith either. My faith too guides my ideology to a point, but I have found that many political positions are not spoken of in the scriptures. Like, how much should people be taxed? Or what kind of gun laws should their be? What kind of immigration laws should we have or which kind of treatment should transgender people receive?

But I also don't think we can keep faith out of everything either. And there's the rub.
 
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That's what defrocking is all about.

  • Since 2004, the Vatican received 3,400 credible cases of abuse.
  • In total, 848 priests were defrocked, and 2,572 were sanctioned. The Vatican explained that the lesser punishments were often the end result of abuse investigations going back decades, mainly because the abusive priests were elderly or infirm.
Well, I guess you can't defrock a priest because he's...old?
 
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If you were interested in this subject, you would do a little research instead of remaining ignorant.
If you wanna make a claim, then back it up friend. I'm not at your beck and call willing to do your work for you.
 
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So you're suggesting the reason transgender people aren't as likely to be pedophiles is because you believe they have more literature about it?

Can you substantiate that belief?

Transgender and nonbinary adolescents are twice as likely to experience sexual violence as their cisgendered peers but are less likely to attempt rape or commit sexual assault, researchers have found.




 
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What nonsense is this? Some low life piece of of dirt sexually assaulted a young girl in a private bathroom. What sort of point do you really think you are making?
 
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  • Since 2004, the Vatican received 3,400 credible cases of abuse.
  • In total, 848 priests were defrocked, and 2,572 were sanctioned. The Vatican explained that the lesser punishments were often the end result of abuse investigations going back decades, mainly because the abusive priests were elderly or infirm.
Well, I guess you can't defrock a priest because he's...old?
They need to step it up a lot more.
 
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They need to step it up a lot more.
Why? You think it's not working? I mean, all those priests who were found to have assaulted children didn't resign the priesthood. Most of people them are still priests. Oh, except you think they're not.

Here, explain that to the Vatican: info@vaticanrome.it
 
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Why? You think it's not working? I mean, all those priests who were found to have assaulted children didn't resign the priesthood. Most of people them are still priests. Oh, except you think they're not.

Here, explain that to the Vatican: info@vaticanrome.it
They should have all been kicked out.
 
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What nonsense is this? Some low life piece of of dirt sexually assaulted a young girl in a private bathroom. What sort of point do you really think you are making?
It’s not all rainbows and unicorns as some would try to make us believe
 
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That goes both ways (right and left) don't you think?
I don't know to what this is referring. There's only been one attempt in this thread to equate adherence to specific political views to religious faithfulness. Where's the "both" coming from?
 
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Gee, they haven't imposed on me for... well, they've never imposed on me. How did they impose on you?
From what I've seen previously, this is code for "they don't have to hide in the closet anymore".
 
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