Of course you know about the religious right...

[Bradskii]

There was an atheist that posted that Trump is not a Christian but Biden is.
Trump has embarrassed himself when he has tried to speak about the Bible and his past lifestyle is not Christ like but if he claims to be a Christian, who is this person to judge that he is not?

Whether someone has true faith is between that person and his or her god. Whether a person appears to be Christian in that he or she follows the teachings of Christ is a matter we can all determine. Quite easily.

 

[The Barbarian]

There seems to be a pattern of transgender people being in possession of child (banned word)
Just Google “Transgender Child (banned word) and look at the results. (PM if you need help with the banned word)

So you're suggesting the reason transgender people aren't as likely to be pedophiles is because you believe they have more literature about it?

Can you substantiate that belief?

Transgender and nonbinary adolescents are twice as likely to experience sexual violence as their cisgendered peers but are less likely to attempt rape or commit sexual assault, researchers have found.

Trans Teens Less Likely to Commit Acts of Sexual Violence

A study from JAMA Network Open found that trans and nonbinary teens were less likely to commit acts of sexual violence than their cisgendered peers.

www.medscape.com

 

[RileyG]

I'm surprised you didn't say '...just homosexual predation.'

Rape a child and you're a child rapist. Whatever the sex of the victim is. Whatever personal predilections the rapist has. Nothing changes that fact.

You’re absolutely right. Most priests who abused others didn’t rape children- ie those who didn’t reach puberty. They were teens or older. Homosexual predation.

 

[RileyG]

That's false. In fact, priests are less likely to be pedophiles than some other ministers.

In reality, the likelihood is that more children are sexually abused in Protestant churches than in Catholic churches. Regardless, the abuse of one child is one child too many. Instead of pointing fingers, we should be learning from each other and working together to bring an end to this epidemic that permeates all of Christendom. In order to do this, Protestants are going to have to accept the fact that we have many more similarities than differences with our Catholic brothers and sisters when it comes to how we have failed to protect and serve God’s children.

'Spotlight': It’s not just a Catholic problem

Protestants can learn much from a film about sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

religionnews.com

This, from Australia:
Abstract
Contrary to findings of previous research regarding the influence of religion on nonsexual criminality, for this sample of sex offenders, religiosity was linked to a higher number of sex offense victims and more convictions for sex offenses. Those sex offenders who reported regular church attendance, a belief in supernatural punishment, and religion as important in their daily lives had more known victims, younger victims, and more convictions for sex offenses than the sex offenders who reported irregular or no church attendance and no or less intense allegiance to religious beliefs and practices.

Religious Affiliations Among Adult Sexual Offenders | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

Absolutely right! It doesn't surprise me that Protestant sects, since 2002, have more a problem with sexual abuse than the Catholic Church. Bashing the Catholic Church and anti-Catholic bigotry is still very much accepted in our society!

 

[ozso]

So you are literally saying that priests are more likely to be paedophiles?

What I said was... Pedophiles are likely to become priests, ministers, teachers, tutors, coaches, therapists, counselors and several other professions that puts them around children in a position of trust and even authority.

 

[RileyG]

According to the church. Not according to the laity. And if the laity asks God for guidance, who's advice takes preference? God or the church?

Well.....if they aren't following the dogmas that have to be followed they aren't exactly being faithful to the teachings of the Church, God gave us the Church to give us guidance, BUT I think we are getting off topic...

 

[RileyG]

Whether someone has true faith is between that person and his or her god. Whether a person appears to be Christian in that he or she follows the teachings of Christ is a matter we can all determine. Quite easily.

How so? If Trump or Biden say they are Christian, then they are Christian. To say otherwise would be the Scotsman fallacy, according to philosophy.

 

[Bradskii]

You’re absolutely right. Most priests who abused others didn’t rape children- ie those who didn’t reach puberty. They were teens or older.

Really? Figures for Australia from here: 4,444 victims: extent of abuse in Catholic church in Australia revealed.

'In total, between 1980 and 2015, 4,444 people alleged incidents of child sexual abuse relating to 93 Catholic Church authorities. The abuse allegedly took place in more than 1,000 institutions. The average age of victims was 10.5 for girls and 11.6 for boys.'

If you want to make a claim then rather than pull figures out of thin air, how about you tell us where you get your info.

 

[ozso]

The few I've encountered seemed happy to just be treated like everyone else. But they were on college campuses, which might have skewed the sample. Do you have any evidence for your claim?

You seem to determine everything going in the world based on your personal experiences.

They've become ubiquitous. They're in the news daily. Often regarding the ramification of not following their pronoun rules everyone is expected to follow or else.

 

[RileyG]

Really? Figures for Australia from here: 4,444 victims: extent of abuse in Catholic church in Australia revealed.

'In total, between 1980 and 2015, 4,444 people alleged incidents of child sexual abuse relating to 93 Catholic Church authorities. The abuse allegedly took place in more than 1,000 institutions. The average age of victims was 10.5 for girls and 11.6 for boys.'

If you want to make a claim then rather than pull figures out of thin air, how about you tell us where you get your info.

You're right, a person who rapes a child is a child rapist.

In the case in the United States, however, most victims were males that were teens or older.

Satisfied?

 

[RileyG]

And they don't want to be left alone, they want to be idolized.

Celebrated even!

 

[Bradskii]

How so? If Trump or Biden say they are Christian, then they are Christian. To say otherwise would be the Scotsman fallacy, according to philosophy.

I can only repeat what I said. Being faithfull is between a person and their God. Acting in a Christ-like manner, that is - following the teachings of Christ, is another matter. I think it's plainly clear to any sane person what the difference is between Biden and Trump.

 

[RileyG]

I can only repeat what I said. Being faithfull is between a person and their God. Acting in a Christ-like manner, that is - following the teachings of Christ, is another matter. I think it's plainly clear to any sane person what the difference is between Biden and Trump.

Yes. You're right. No argument from me.

 

[ozso]

Which is...?

Ideology.

Gee, they haven't imposed on me for... well, they've never imposed on me. How did they impose on you?

You should go to a blackboard and write "it's not all about me" 100 times.

If they've never imposed on you, what makes you think they do it?

Because I know there are things that go on in the world outside of myself. And that just because something doesn't affect me personally, that doesn't mean it doesn't affect the rest of society.

But you can't show us a checkable source? I think I know why.

Okay I'll google it for you...

Google Search

Google Search

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Google Search

It's not clear what she said or did. Trans people used to just get fired without any explanation, so this probably feels to some folks the way segregationists felt when affirmative action was implemented in the Nixon years.

It's two wrongs make a right payback time for whatever happened in the Nixon years.

Anyway, unless the lady was insulting or aggressive, it seems wrong for her to be treated like that. Do you have any of people actually losing a job?

What's happened is the whole thing has become sacred and questioning it has become taboo. Because woke liberalism has gone off the deep end.

 

[Bradskii]

You're right, a person who rapes a child is a child rapist.

In the case in the United States, however, most victims were males that were teens or older.

Satisfied?

No.

In the States, 75% were 13 or under. Page 10 from here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FBAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MT5BYeOpYvRekRRiVvLY2

Again, any figures that you toss out are worthless without some sort of verification. And seeing as your figures are always wrong then you lose credibility in making any claims.

 

[Bradskii]

Okay I'll google it for you...

From the very first story from your first link:

'Anyone attempting to transition away from the gender assigned to them at birth needed “help and deliverance”, the teacher said, adding that it was wrong for schools to teach that gender is a choice.

The teacher’s submissions also covered what he believed to be the “obvious next sin” after transitioning, which he claimed to be homosexuality. He presented multiple excerpts from the Bible that read, “man should only lie with a woman” and said homosexuality stepped away from “God’s plan”.

Abortion was also mentioned during his submission, in which he argued that all forms of abortion went against Christian values and ought to be considered murder.'

Would any reasonable person want this guy anywhere near their children?

 

[ozso]

From the very first story from your first link:

'Anyone attempting to transition away from the gender assigned to them at birth needed “help and deliverance”, the teacher said, adding that it was wrong for schools to teach that gender is a choice.

The teacher’s submissions also covered what he believed to be the “obvious next sin” after transitioning, which he claimed to be homosexuality. He presented multiple excerpts from the Bible that read, “man should only lie with a woman” and said homosexuality stepped away from “God’s plan”.

Abortion was also mentioned during his submission, in which he argued that all forms of abortion went against Christian values and ought to be considered murder.'

Would any reasonable person want this guy anywhere near their children?

Ah I should've cherry picked specific stories. How about just looking though all that's available if you really want a full understanding?

 

[RileyG]

No.

In the States, 75% were 13 or under. Page 10 from here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FBAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MT5BYeOpYvRekRRiVvLY2

Again, any figures that you toss out are worthless without some sort of verification. And seeing as your figures are always wrong then you lose credibility in making any claims.

Yes.

I'm just curious. What are you trying to prove, exactly?

Priests, compared to the general population, are no more likely to be sexual predators than the rest of other professions.

A vast majority of priests are not predators.

Quite frankly, to say otherwise is anti-Catholic bigotry.

Most sexual predators are people they already know, like family members.

 

[RileyG]

No.

In the States, 75% were 13 or under. Page 10 from here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FBAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MT5BYeOpYvRekRRiVvLY2

Again, any figures that you toss out are worthless without some sort of verification. And seeing as your figures are always wrong then you lose credibility in making any claims.

Good grief.

By definition, most weren't pedophiles. Even according to this study. Did you even read it?

Page ten literally says "Yet, the data on priests show that 22 percent of vic- tims were age ten and under, while the majority of victims were pubescent or postpubescent."

(I am NOT dismissing the seriousness of the issue. Rather, I stand by what I say. It was homosexual predation).

Edit: What's the point of going on? Sexual assault is sexual assault. Of course, abusing children is more heinous.

 

[ozso]

Yes.

I'm just curious. What are you trying to prove, exactly?

Priests, compared to the general population, are no more likely to be sexual predators than the rest of other professions.

A vast majority of priests are not predators.

Quite frankly, to say otherwise is anti-Catholic bigotry.

Most sexual predators are people they already know, like family members.

Many others seek and exploit any position that grants them access to children. They are quintessential wolves in sheep's clothing. Not true priests or ministers or teachers or coaches, but predators in disguise.