How pro-Hamas rhetoric infected US high schools

[Valletta]

Indeed, the examples of textbooks being used in classrooms nationwide promoting anti-Zionist and antisemitic tropes remain innumerable.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 1019…“While the United Nations granted the Palestinians their own homeland, the Israelis seized most of that land, including the West Bank and Gaza, during its various wars.”
This is false. In 1948 the United Nations partitioned Palestine according to UN Resolution 181 between Arabs and Jews.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 270… “Because the Qur’an forbade forced conversion, Muslims allowed conquered peoples to follow their own religion.” This is false. Those who were conquered by the Muslim empire became its citizens. Forced conversions were routine. The only other choices were exile, death, or a heavy tax.

How pro-Hamas rhetoric infected US high schools

Pro-Islam groups have infiltrated the public school system using books as a weapon.

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We need school choice so this kind of propaganda is not forced on our children.

 

[Pommer]

Indeed, the examples of textbooks being used in classrooms nationwide promoting anti-Zionist and antisemitic tropes remain innumerable.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 1019…“While the United Nations granted the Palestinians their own homeland, the Israelis seized most of that land, including the West Bank and Gaza, during its various wars.”
This is false. In 1948 the United Nations partitioned Palestine according to UN Resolution 181 between Arabs and Jews.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 270… “Because the Qur’an forbade forced conversion, Muslims allowed conquered peoples to follow their own religion.” This is false. Those who were conquered by the Muslim empire became its citizens. Forced conversions were routine. The only other choices were exile, death, or a heavy tax.

How pro-Hamas rhetoric infected US high schools

Pro-Islam groups have infiltrated the public school system using books as a weapon.

nypost.com

We need school choice so this kind of propaganda is not forced on our children.

Our children are in danger of not believing “The Truth!” ?
Mercy, what-ever-shall-we-do?

 

[KCfromNC]

Our children are in danger of not believing “The Truth!” ?
Mercy, what-ever-shall-we-do?

Perhaps we could cancel speech which doesn't agree with what the GOP is trying to push? We'd have to call it something other than canceling, of course, because that buzzword has already infected Fox News viewers. But call the censorship of opposing views something else and we'll be able to sell it, maybe by calling it antisemitic or something?

 

[DaisyDay]

Shots fired in the War on Education. How can the quoted passages be pro-Hamas discussing the creation of Israel in 1948 when Hamas wouldn't exist for another forty year?

 

[Valletta]

Shots fired in the War on Education. How can the quoted passages be pro-Hamas discussing the creation of Israel in 1948 when Hamas wouldn't exist for another forty year?

It's the false history used by Hamas. Just like the 1619 project uses false history.

 

[Arcangl86]

Only one of the claims made is questionable, and we don't know the whole context of it. He responded to four claims. Let's look at that.

World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 1019…“While the United Nations granted the Palestinians their own homeland, the Israelis seized most of that land, including the West Bank and Gaza, during its various wars.”
This is false. In 1948 the United Nations partitioned Palestine according to UN Resolution 181 between Arabs and Jews.

Yes, the UN did partition Palestine, granting some of the Mandate to the new nation of Israel and reserving the rest for those who were already living there. What is also true is that Gaza and the West Bank were part of the lands given to the Arab Palestinians and was then seized by Israel in several wars.

World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 270… “Because the Qur’an forbade forced conversion, Muslims allowed conquered peoples to follow their own religion.” This is false. Those who were conquered by the Muslim empire became its citizens. Forced conversions were routine. The only other choices were exile, death, or a heavy tax.

And this is the one where he may have a point. It is true that forced conversions are against Islamic law. It's also true that they happened anyway. But while that is true, there are historical records of non-Muslims living in peace more or less in Muslim territories. So this one is a lot more nuanced then the book presents.

World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 168… “Although the exact date is uncertain, historians believe that sometime around 6 to 4 b.c., a Jew named Jesus was born in the town of Bethlehem in Judea. Jesus was raised in the village of Nazareth in northern Palestine.”

It implies that Jesus was a Palestinian when in fact he was born in Bethlehem, a town in Judea.

This is simply stating the Biblical narrative, that Jesus was born in Bethlehem and raised in Nazareth. And honestly, even if he never left Bethlehem, he would still be a Palestinian because at that point in history Palestine referred to a region, not a nation or country.

World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 227…“Based on the teachings of Jesus and a belief in one God — monotheism — Christianity began in Palestine about a.d. 30.”

Once again, this is an attempt to associate the birth of Christianity with Palestine when Palestine did not exist.

Palestine did exist and the region had been called Palestine for centuries before Jesus was born.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Palestine did exist and the region had been called Palestine for centuries before Jesus was born.

See: Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

 

[Gene2memE]

Indeed, the examples of textbooks being used in classrooms nationwide promoting anti-Zionist and antisemitic tropes remain innumerable.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 1019…“While the United Nations granted the Palestinians their own homeland, the Israelis seized most of that land, including the West Bank and Gaza, during its various wars.”

This is false. In 1948 the United Nations partitioned Palestine according to UN Resolution 181 between Arabs and Jews.

This is not false. This is also not pro-Hamas rhetoric, it's just plain statement of fact.

The "Arabs" referenced in the text are the Palestinians. UN Resolution 181 (passed in 1947, not 1948) divided Palestine into "The Arab State" and "The Jewish State" - that is, two independent and sovereign homelands.

Israel subsequently occupied the West Bank, Gaza and the Palestinian sections of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. Of the roughly 11,100 square kilometers of the "Arab State" Israel occupied roughly 7,460 sq km until 2006, and still occupies about 7,100 sq km now.

(This includes formal and informal annexation of some sections of this land. Quoting the US State Department: "the Israeli government formally annexed East Jerusalem in 1980, although no other government, including the United States, has recognized this annexation". Israel also passed a law in 1981 that informally annexed sections of the Golan Heights)

Palestinians living in the West Bank and sections of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are subject to either Israeli military or civil law. They're not under the jurisdiction of their own state, but that of a foreign (and occupying) power.

That is indeed seizing "most of that land" that belonged to of the "Arab State".

 

[Ana the Ist]

Our children are in danger of not believing “The Truth!” ?
Mercy, what-ever-shall-we-do?

I remember back when left wing posters tried to convince people on here CRT isn't in our public schools....then it was just "accurate history".

CRT merely challenges the status quo; that right there is the real reason that it is fought tooth-and-nail.
Oh one can dress it up in academic rhetoric but the nub of the opposition to the discipline is that the people at the top don’t wish to have anything substantively change.

This is probably explained much better in CRT literature.

If you're in favor teaching children left wing propaganda in public school....just say so already.

 

[FireDragon76]

Indeed, the examples of textbooks being used in classrooms nationwide promoting anti-Zionist and antisemitic tropes remain innumerable.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 1019…“While the United Nations granted the Palestinians their own homeland, the Israelis seized most of that land, including the West Bank and Gaza, during its various wars.”
This is false. In 1948 the United Nations partitioned Palestine according to UN Resolution 181 between Arabs and Jews.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 270… “Because the Qur’an forbade forced conversion, Muslims allowed conquered peoples to follow their own religion.” This is false. Those who were conquered by the Muslim empire became its citizens. Forced conversions were routine. The only other choices were exile, death, or a heavy tax.

How pro-Hamas rhetoric infected US high schools

Pro-Islam groups have infiltrated the public school system using books as a weapon.

nypost.com

We need school choice so this kind of propaganda is not forced on our children.

It might not give the full picture, but that second statement is largely true, especially when compared to many European countries at the time. For centuries, countries like England or Sweden didn't allow any Jews to live there, under penalty of death.

 

[Larniavc]

Indeed, the examples of textbooks being used in classrooms nationwide promoting anti-Zionist and antisemitic tropes remain innumerable.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 1019…“While the United Nations granted the Palestinians their own homeland, the Israelis seized most of that land, including the West Bank and Gaza, during its various wars.”
This is false. In 1948 the United Nations partitioned Palestine according to UN Resolution 181 between Arabs and Jews.
World History: Patterns of Interaction (McDougal Littell, a division of Houghton Mifflin Company 2009): page 270… “Because the Qur’an forbade forced conversion, Muslims allowed conquered peoples to follow their own religion.” This is false. Those who were conquered by the Muslim empire became its citizens. Forced conversions were routine. The only other choices were exile, death, or a heavy tax.

How pro-Hamas rhetoric infected US high schools

Pro-Islam groups have infiltrated the public school system using books as a weapon.

nypost.com

We need school choice so this kind of propaganda is not forced on our children.

The American War on Education gathers pace. Is there any abstract concept that America won’t try to fight?

I confidently expect a War on Daydreaming to march with illfounded confidence into the public forum anytime soon.

 

[Ana the Ist]

This is not false. This is also not pro-Hamas rhetoric, it's just plain statement of fact.

The "Arabs" referenced in the text are the Palestinians. UN Resolution 181 (passed in 1947, not 1948) divided Palestine into "The Arab State" and "The Jewish State" - that is, two independent and sovereign homelands.

Israel subsequently occupied the West Bank, Gaza and the Palestinian sections of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. Of the roughly 11,100 square kilometers of the "Arab State" Israel occupied roughly 7,460 sq km until 2006, and still occupies about 7,100 sq km now.

(This includes formal and informal annexation of some sections of this land. Quoting the US State Department: "the Israeli government formally annexed East Jerusalem in 1980, although no other government, including the United States, has recognized this annexation". Israel also passed a law in 1981 that informally annexed sections of the Golan Heights)

Palestinians living in the West Bank and sections of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are subject to either Israeli military or civil law. They're not under the jurisdiction of their own state, but that of a foreign (and occupying) power.

That is indeed seizing "most of that land" that belonged to of the "Arab State".

The state of Israel began well before the end of WW2 with the Belfour declaration at the end of WW1 with Jewish Settlers buying up land from the British.

To pretend this all began post WW2 is indeed propaganda and dishonest.

 

[Ana the Ist]

It might not give the full picture, but that second statement is largely true, especially when compared to many European countries at the time. For centuries, countries like England or Sweden didn't allow any Jews to live there, under penalty of death.

The second statement is largely true...because Muslims were allowed to enslave non-Muslims in the Quran and if you were a slave under Islam you could convert and earn your freedom.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Only one of the claims made is questionable, and we don't know the whole context of it. He responded to four claims. Let's look at that.


Yes, the UN did partition Palestine, granting some of the Mandate to the new nation of Israel and reserving the rest for those who were already living there. What is also true is that Gaza and the West Bank were part of the lands given to the Arab Palestinians and was then seized by Israel in several wars.

And this is the one where he may have a point. It is true that forced conversions are against Islamic law. It's also true that they happened anyway. But while that is true, there are historical records of non-Muslims living in peace more or less in Muslim territories. So this one is a lot more nuanced then the book presents.

This is simply stating the Biblical narrative, that Jesus was born in Bethlehem and raised in Nazareth. And honestly, even if he never left Bethlehem, he would still be a Palestinian because at that point in history Palestine referred to a region, not a nation or country.

Palestine did exist and the region had been called Palestine for centuries before Jesus was born.

There's one point I disagree with that you brought up. And that is to call Jesus Palestinian.

First, not to recognize that Jesus is Israel, the corporate head of and embodiment of Israel, is ignorance.

Second, not to acknowledge Jesus as Israel, thus denying his headship thereof, is at the least borderline heretical.

The renaming of areas that were Israel was done intentionally by the Romans as an insult to antagonize the Jews.

So to go one step further than that and use a slander upon Christ, the King of Israel, the embodiment of Israel, is in my view a heresy.



"Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night." Psalms 1:1-2


Many Pastors and even Jewish Rabbi's see this as a progressive verse. It starts with taking advice, then ends up with you scoffing God. .

Your up to scoffing God Himself when you repeat the insults of Romans upon Christ's head.

It's not acceptable. And it still antagonizes....

 

[RocksInMyHead]

There's one point I disagree with that you brought up. And that is to call Jesus Palestinian.

First, not to recognize that Jesus is Israel, the corporate head of and embodiment of Israel, is ignorance.

Second, not to acknowledge Jesus as Israel, thus denying his headship thereof, is at the least borderline heretical.

This is a history textbook, not a religious textbook. History textbooks don't deal with religious concepts outside of how they interact with history. Christ as the head and embodiment of "Israel" is a purely religious concept in that He was never, in life, any sort of political or religious authority over the Jewish people. As a historical figure, Jesus was a somewhat popular preacher and philosopher who was ultimately executed by the Romans after a few years of ministry.

The renaming of areas that were Israel was done intentionally by the Romans as an insult to antagonize the Jews.

True. But that doesn't change the fact that the region that Jesus was born in was called Palestine by the rest of the world, making him a Palestinian as far as history is concerned.

 

[MForbes]

This is a history textbook, not a religious textbook. History textbooks don't deal with religious concepts outside of how they interact with history. Christ as the head and embodiment of "Israel" is a purely religious concept in that He was never, in life, any sort of political or religious authority over the Jewish people. As a historical figure, Jesus was a somewhat popular preacher and philosopher who was ultimately executed by the Romans after a few years of ministry.

True. But that doesn't change the fact that the region that Jesus was born in was called Palestine by the rest of the world, making him a Palestinian as far as history is concerned.

Actually, Jesus was a Judean (Jew, Yehudim) from Judea. Not a Palestinian or an Israelite. The Romans re-named Judea to "Syria Palestina", combining Galilee and Judea after the second Jewish revolt (quite a few decades after the crucifixion) and Israel had ceased to exist as a country long before Rome.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Actually, Jesus was a Judean (Jew, Yehudim) from Judea. Not a Palestinian or an Israelite. The Romans re-named Judea to "Syria Palestina", combining Galilee and Judea after the second Jewish revolt (quite a few decades after the crucifixion) and Israel had ceased to exist as a country long before Rome.

That was when it was named as an official province, but the name "Palestine" was first used for the region by the Greek philosopher/historian/geographer Herodotus about 500 years before Jesus, and multiple other historians used the name in between.

 

[Arcangl86]

There's one point I disagree with that you brought up. And that is to call Jesus Palestinian.

First, not to recognize that Jesus is Israel, the corporate head of and embodiment of Israel, is ignorance.

Second, not to acknowledge Jesus as Israel, thus denying his headship thereof, is at the least borderline heretical.

Sure, from a religious view you are right. However I was speaking from a historical perspective, which is what the job of text books is to teach.

The renaming of areas that were Israel was done intentionally by the Romans as an insult to antagonize the Jews.

Yes and no. I agree that the combining of the province of Judea and naming the whole thing Syria-Palestine was done in response to the Jewish Roman wars. But that's conflating the name of the socio-poltical province with the geographic region, and the region was called Palestine centuries before the Romans entered the picture.

So to go one step further than that and use a slander upon Christ, the King of Israel, the embodiment of Israel, is in my view a heresy.



"Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night." Psalms 1:1-2


Many Pastors and even Jewish Rabbi's see this as a progressive verse. It starts with taking advice, then ends up with you scoffing God. .

Your up to scoffing God Himself when you repeat the insults of Romans upon Christ's head.

It's not acceptable. And it still antagonizes....

Me calling Christ a Palestinian is no more of an insult then me calling him a Roman. It's just a matter of historical fact.

 

[MForbes]

That was when it was named as an official province, but the name "Palestine" was first used for the region by the Greek philosopher/historian/geographer Herodotus about 500 years before Jesus, and multiple other historians used the name in between.

I'll give you that...but the people in that era were not referred to as, nor did they call themselves "Palestinian".

 

[FireDragon76]

If all you get in terms of history is Sunday School lessons in the typical conservative Protestant church, you're bound to be confused about the actual history of the region. In reality, Judaism emerged from a Canaanite and Mesopotamian milieu, and what we recognize in the biblical narrative as "Israel" was not a unified nation as we would recognize it today. The Old Testament is primarily the record of a religious elite, telling their history in their own terms and for their own purposes. There's no reason to use it to define the geography of a region. As the late Ariel Sharon put it, the Bible is a book about values, not geography.