Proposed New York Legislation Would Force Chick-Fil-A To Remain Open On Sundays

[SavedByGrace3]

I am amazed to hear people defending this.

You are some scary people.

 

[wing2000]

Mission and value statements, for one thing. The corporate policy is based on a self-identification, and I'm pretty sure that tests for whether individuals are religious enough is not part of the protection of religious freedoms.

Do you regularly review the mission and value statements of restaurants? I doubt most customers do.

We normally do carry out when we visit such estaablishments so I can't say what Chick-fil-A may have inside their restaurants (crosses on the wall? other Christian symbols?). Their food packaging does not have bible verses etc (where as the burger joint - In and Out - does...or did at one point; they're also open 7 days a week).

IMO, I wish more businesses would close down on Sundays so that families have more time together and give service workers a break....

 

[Fervent]

Do you regularly review the mission and value statements of restaurants? I doubt most customers do.

No, but simply because a customer may not realize that an establishment is Christian doesn't mean they cannot self-identify as such. Individual's don't have to prove the sincerity and visibility of their religious belief, so why should we expect corporations to?

We normally do carry out when we visit such estaablishments so I can't say what Chick-fil-A may have inside their restaurants (crosses on the wall? other Christian symbols?). Their food packaging does not have bible verses etc (where as the burger joint - In and Out - does...or did at one point; they're also open 7 days a week).

Doesn't really matter, the question is what is the underlying reason for Chick-Fil-A being closed on Sundays. Which as far as I know is based in the religious values the company claims to have. Simply because other restaurants practice their religious values differently doesn't invalidate the religious motivation of Chick-Fil-A's policy.

IMO, I wish more businesses would close down on Sundays so that families have more time together and give service workers a break....

Me too, but I also wish that more businesses paid a living wage and actually compensated their workers rather than their shareholders along with a myriad of other issues with common business practices.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I am amazed to hear people defending this.

You are some scary people.

I agree. The Chicken Sandwich church notion is undefendable. "Scary" goes a bit far. Disconnected from reality is more close to things.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I agree. The Chicken Sandwich church notion is undefendable. "Scary" goes a bit far. Disconnected from reality is more close to things.

"Chicken sandwich church?"
Wow...

 

[Hans Blaster]

"Chicken sandwich church?"
Wow...

I know. What else would you call a fast food joint mistaken for some sort of religious institution?

 

[Larniavc]

That doesn’t explain why he brought up numerology, and I don’t see how Star Wars has anything to do with this thread.

He was being sarcastic- it obvious isn't it?

Great Scott! That's 33 letters!

 

[Fervent]

I agree. The Chicken Sandwich church notion is undefendable. "Scary" goes a bit far. Disconnected from reality is more close to things.

Look at that straw burn.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Look at that straw burn.

I'm just going to another discussion....

 

[Hans Blaster]

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Look at that straw burn.

So you also don't understand what a strawman argument actually is? I'll put that on the list next to the wall of separation.

 

[Fervent]

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So you also don't understand what a strawman argument actually is? I'll put that on the list next to the wall of separation.

Considering you ignore the nuance of the arguments being put forth and have instead ridiculed an overly simplified version of what's been presented, I'd say my identification of it as a strawman is pretty accurate.

So your claim that I don't understand what a strawman argument is falls completely flat, unless you believe that it is something other than attacking a distorted version of arguments put forth.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Considering you ignore the nuance of the arguments being put forth and have instead ridiculed an overly simplified version of what's been presented, I'd say my identification of it as a strawman is pretty accurate.

So your claim that I don't understand what a strawman argument is falls completely flat, unless you believe that it is something other than attacking a distorted version of arguments put forth.

What subtlety is needed? You confuse a fast food joint for a religious organization.

 

[Fervent]

What subtlety is needed? You confuse a fast food joint for a religious organization.

Nope, I recognize that corporations have identities that can include a religious affiliation. Simply because it is a business does not mean that there are not corporate values, which can include religiious identification.

So I do not believe that Chick-Fil-A is a church, or a para-church organization, but that does not mean that their religious background is not integral to their corporate identity and reducing it to "you think they're a church." is nothing more than an argument made of straw.

 

[MForbes]

Great Scott! That's 33 letters!

 

[RoBo1988]

Looks like the government has 33 years to develop their own chicken sandwich! May I suggest "Chic Of Gov", or if you qualify: "Chic's for Free"!

 

[Hans Blaster]

Nope, I recognize that corporations have identities that can include a religious affiliation. Simply because it is a business does not mean that there are not corporate values, which can include religiious identification.

So I do not believe that Chick-Fil-A is a church, or a para-church organization, but that does not mean that their religious background is not integral to their corporate identity and reducing it to "you think they're a church." is nothing more than an argument made of straw.

There is nothing about a Chick-fil-a that would make you think it had *ANY* religious purpose when you enter it.

 

[Fantine]

The thruway has tolls so it's difficult to exit to get food, generating a toll, and reentering.
So of course the services need to be open 365 days a year.

Jesus said we should feed the hungry and give drink to the thirsty---and if you're stuck on the NYS thruway (or the Muskogee Turnpike, closer to me) there's no way to get off without paying a few bucks in additional fees.

Chic Fil'A is free to open a restaurant right at the exit.

 

[LizaMarie]

I guess I don't see where a State or Government here in the U.S. has any right to tell a business what days or hours it has to be open.
I love in a small town where there is only one grocery store, one hardware store. Can the state we live in tell us what hours we have to
be open? I guess I don't understand this law.

 

[public hermit]

It could have more balance and sanity than one dominated by Christians?

And thank God for that, I say.

 

[Arcangl86]

I guess I don't see where a State or Government here in the U.S. has any right to tell a business what days or hours it has to be open.
I love in a small town where there is only one grocery store, one hardware store. Can the state we live in tell us what hours we have to
be open? I guess I don't understand this law.

This law is specifically about restaurants located at NY Thruway rest stops, which are owned by the state. So the state is perfectly able to regulate what happens on state property, including leasing requirements.