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FLAT or ROUND Earth?

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The Hebrew word is better translated as Compass? Why is it not translated as Compass in over 60 translations of the Hebrew Scriptures and in the vast majority of them (40) they translate "khoog" as circle? Only the Wycliffe translation translates it as compass. Thanks to Wycliffe the word compass has been found in some bible lexicons and concordances.

However, here are over 60 Hebrew translations of Isaiah 40:22 and forty of them translate "khoog" as circle. Yet you claim that the better translation is Compass.


You need to reexamine your position. Translating khoog as Compass makes no sense and the verse doesn't say what you claim it does. You claim that it should be translated as "He walks above Heaven and encompasses it." Where does it say that?

Here are 60 translations for circuit (circle) in Job 22:14. None of them translate "khoog" as Compass. None of them. And yet you claim indirectly to be a bible scholar and claim to know that "He walks above Heaven and encompasses it" is a better translation. How do you know this unless you are a bible scholar of some kind?


Khoog is an English version of the word in the Yiddish language of eastern European jews.
 
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Even when book of jubilee was written. They knew what divide the earth meant. It wasn't literally.

8. And in the sixth
1567 A.M.year thereof, she bare him a son, and he called his name Peleg; for in the days when he was born the children of Noah began to divide the earth amongst themselves: for this reason he called his name Peleg
The United States was divided by Civil War in the 19th century and in 2020 this country was roughly divided between party lines. America wasn't divided literally, like an earthquake splitting the USA open along the Mason-Dixon line. The ancient people were united with one language. The earth hadn't been divided before the building of the tower of Babel. After God created the different languages the earth became divided and has been divided every since.
 
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I take the word for what it says. You don't accept the literal meaning of circle in this verse so you just make up a meaning that makes the problem disappear.
I posted other meanings of the word. I certainly didn't make it up.
 
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Khoog is an English version of the word in the Yiddish language of eastern European jews.
I'm using the phoentic spelling of the Hebrew word as is noted here:


See H2328 in Strong's concordance.

In the King James version of the Bible we find this:

And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli: (Acts 28:13). The use of compass here means to make a circle.


So, compass can also mean circle. But what do I know? You're the Bible scholar here. You know what the better translation is. Where did you get your degree in Biblical Hebrew?
 
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The United States was divided by Civil War in the 19th century and in 2020 this country was roughly divided between party lines. America wasn't divided literally, like an earthquake splitting the USA open along the Mason-Dixon line. The ancient people were united with one language. The earth hadn't been divided before the building of the tower of Babel. After God created the different languages the earth became divided and has been divided every since.
Earth had continents long before Babal
 
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You're the Bible scholar here. You know what the better translation is. Where did you get your degree in Biblical Hebrew?
I figured you would resort to sarcasm. Look up what phoentic means
 
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Even when book of jubilee was written. They knew what divide the earth meant. It wasn't literally.

8. And in the sixth
1567 A.M.year thereof, she bare him a son, and he called his name Peleg; for in the days when he was born the children of Noah began to divide the earth amongst themselves: for this reason he called his name Peleg
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Jubilees fails the standards of the canon of Scripture, it adds to the Law of Moses, etc..So if you want to accept it fine. But i do not, so either support your position from The Bible or not at all, if you are going to discuss this topic with ms.
 
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(Chug) is not khoog that word is derived from the Yiddish language. Phoentic is the sound of the speech. How to pronounce it.
Phoentic Spelling is what I am referring to. See this:

Strong's Concordance
chug: to draw around, make a circle​
Original Word: חוּג
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: chug
Phonetic Spelling: (khoog)
Definition: to draw around, make a circle
 
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Jubilees fails the standards of the canon of Scripture, it adds to the Law of Moses, etc..So if you want to accept it fine. But i do not, so either support your position from The Bible or not at all, if you are going to discuss this topic with ms.
I said that they used the same understanding long ago.

You should stick to reality. Catch a ride on a private space flight and see the globe earth yourself.
 
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Phoentic Spelling is what I am referring to. See this:

Strong's Concordance
chug: to draw around, make a circle​
Original Word: חוּג
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: chug
Phonetic Spelling: (khoog)
Definition: to draw around, make a circle
Yes that is how you would say the word.
 
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Earth had continents long before Babal
Of course she did. However, it seems to me you believe that the earth was divided when the continents were torn apart. Like, science has determined that South America and the African continent were once the same continent but was split apart, either by the cataclysmic upheaval of the flood or the division of the earth's people. I believe the division of the earth's languages makes more sense. This country has been divided before but that doesn't mean the continent has been split apart or drifted apart over centuries. In order to have confidence in what you claim, I need to see your evidence that the division of the continents is what the Bible was talking about when it said in his days the earth was divided. Here, I am reproducing the verse below:

1 Chronicles 1:19
And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan.

How do you know that "in his days the earth was divided" refers to the splitting of the continents and not the division of the earth's populace during the building of the tower of Babel? You know, America was divided by the Civil War a long time ago. That doesn't mean the continent was divided by a massive earthquake along the Mason-Dixon line.
 
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Of course she did. However, it seems to me you believe that the earth was divided when the continents were torn apart. Like, science has determined that South America and the African continent were once the same continent but was split apart, either by the cataclysmic upheaval of the flood or the division of the earth's people. I believe the division of the earth's languages makes more sense. This country has been divided before but that doesn't mean the continent has been split apart or drifted apart over centuries. In order to have confidence in what you claim, I need to see your evidence that the division of the continents is what the Bible was talking about when it said in his days the earth was divided. Here, I am reproducing the verse below:

1 Chronicles 1:19
And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan.

How do you know that "in his days the earth was divided" refers to the splitting of the continents and not the division of the earth's populace during the building of the tower of Babel? You know, America was divided by the Civil War a long time ago. That doesn't mean the continent was divided by a massive earthquake along the Mason-Dixon line.
The continents are always moving. The Pacific ocean is shrinking and the Atlantic is growing. There will be an ocean inside Africa in the future because it's spitting apart.

Actually I believe it was the populace and not earth's land. What gave you the notion I thought the opposite?

It wasn't me who said the continents split apart after Babel. Your quoting the wrong poster on that.
 
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The continents are always moving. The Pacific ocean is shrinking and the Atlantic is growing. There will be an ocean inside Africa in the future because it's spitting apart.

Actually I believe it was the populace and not earth's land.
I have no argument with this.
 
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I said they they used the same understand long ago.

You should stick to reality. Catch a ride on a private space flight and see the globe earth yourself.

Well we will see who is in reality, like i have said before in other post. These are not dead end discussions that have no end result of reveling the true creation God's as described in The Bible or sciences version.

I am looking forward to the day The Biblical creation truth is known and not deceivingly hidden by satan, so science and their creation illusion will be finally silenced and put away.
 
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Well we will see who is in reality, like i have said before in other post. These are not dead end discussions that have no end result of reveling the true creation God's as described in The Bible or sciences version.

I am looking forward to the day The Biblical creation truth is known and not deceivingly hidden by satan, so science and their creation illusion will be finally silenced and put away.
satan doesn't care rather anyone believes the earth is flat or a globe. It's not salvation based at all.
 
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satan doesn't care rather anyone believes the earth is flat or a globe. It's not salvation based at all.

Satan will use any deception he can to discredit The Bible. As The Bible is the only source humanity has to know about God in this age. Bring doubt as to the truthfulness of The Bible and that will put in place by people a barrier between them being able to trust God's Biblical witness.

A many of people have closed the door on God because they believe science and evolution are the true truth tellers.
 
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Satan will use any deception he can to discredit The Bible. As The Bible is the only source humanity has to know about God in this age. Bring doubt as to the truthfulness of The Bible and that will put in place by people a barrier between them being able to trust God's Biblical witness.

A many of people have closed the door on God because they believe science and evolution are the true truth tellers.
And you used computer science to convey your thoughts hmm are they deceptions? Is metaphorisis, regeneration, stem cells full of information of species something God created?

Caterpillar to a butterfly is fast tracked evolution.

In the cocoon the Caterpillar is completely dissolved in a imaginary disc and a stem cell that holds the blueprint of a butterfly is activated and the soup is restructured to the new species. Which passes on actual memories as well stored in a stem cell. Direction to and from continents during migration over multiple generations.
 
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