Noah's Flood & the Strait of Hormuz

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

A global flood is a straw man argument. People make something up and then they falsify their own interpretation. This is working with a rigged deck. They deal from the bottom of the deck and hide cards up their sleeve when no one is looking. After they fail to convince themself, they come here to try to convince others.

We can not judge people, but when they put their evidence on the table we can judge that.

No, it's not a strawman argument since AV does believe and say that Noah's flood was a global flood, and then God cleaned up every single shred of evidence and rearranged everything in the world to make it look it didn't happen and that we can only rely on the Bible to tell us that it did.

 

[Diamond72]

Neither of you know a thing you're talking about.

Again you are guilty of what you accuse others of. So your only testimony is against yourself. And really admit that you do not know what I am talking about. It does not really matter. People will learn this when they go to Heaven. There will be lots of places they can go. Like dinosaur parks to learn what God's plan was for the dinosaurs.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Again you are guilty of what you accuse others of. So your only testimony is against yourself. And really admit that you do not know what I am talking about. It does not really matter. People will learn this when they go to Heaven. There will be lots of places they can go. Like dinosaur parks to learn what God's plan was for the dinosaurs.

No, I'm not. You claim the law of diminishing returns applies to flood geology and geography, but the law of diminishing returns is only to do with economics!

 

[Diamond72]

AV does believe and say that Noah's flood was a global flood,

He is just playing with you. There is always a grain of truth in what he says.
He really is a master at what he does. He is very good at it.
The best part is people get played and don't realize it.

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[Diamond72]

No, I'm not. You claim the law of diminishing returns

What is "the law of diminishing returns"? The conversation has to do with what they call catastrophic theory, gradualism, and what they call: "punctuated equilibrium". Gould and Eldredge are best known for their theory of punctuated equilibrium, which they proposed in 1972. They co-authored a book titled "Punctuated Equilibria: An Alternative to Phyletic Gradualism" in 1985.

We were talking about water pressure. In addition, the law of diminishing returns can also apply to other geologic processes, such as the extraction of groundwater from an aquifer. As more water is pumped out of an aquifer, the remaining water becomes more difficult and costly to extract due to decreasing pressure and flow rates, and the need for deeper wells.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

He is just playing with you. There is always a grain of truth in what he says.
He really is a master at what he does. He is very good at it.
The best part is people get played and don't realize it.

No. He 100% believes what he says.

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Stop using this bloody chatbot!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What is "the law of diminishing returns"?

You mean you'll use it in a post you make like post #152 and you don't even know what it is?!

 

[Diamond72]

but the law of diminishing returns is only to do with economics!

You should to a search before you make these claims.
In geology, the law of diminishing returns could apply to the extraction of natural resources, such as minerals or fossil fuels. For example, as the supply of a particular mineral deposit is depleted, it may become more difficult and costly to extract additional resources.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You should to a search before you make these claims.
In geology, the law of diminishing returns could apply to the extraction of natural resources, such as minerals or fossil fuels. For example, as the supply of a particular mineral deposit is depleted, it may become more difficult and costly to extract additional resources.

But it doesn't because the law of diminishing returns only applies to economics. What you are describing is the human effect on geography, the extraction of minerals, which is somewhat an example of the law of diminishing returns.
The creation of the Grand Canyon is not an example of the law of diminishing returns.

You need to do actual research for yourself.

And when you reply, reply to the whole message. Don't just pick and choose what to respond to. It makes you look flagrantly dishonest.

 

[Diamond72]

Stop using this bloody chatbot!

I do not have time NOT to use it. Chatbot is VERY fast.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I do not have time NOT to use it. Chatbot is VERY fast.
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That's just sheer laziness.

 

[Diamond72]

which is somewhat an example of the law of diminishing returns.

Ok, so I should have added the word: "somewhat". I really don't even know why I put that there. It really has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Ok, so I should have added the word: "somewhat". I really don't even know why I put that there. It really has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

I honestly don't think you truly have a single clue what you are ever talking about.

 

[AV1611VET]

Neither of those would be found in a world subjected to a global flood,

Mother Nature can't clean up after herself completely.

Her restoration processes are incomplete.

That's why scars, even from a paper cut, can be detected a year later.

... only in your extra-Biblical 'God cleaned everything up' world,

If I can think of God doing it, I'm sure He thought of it too.

... and even then only on paper.

Yup.

That's what makes it so special.

Without that Paper, we would have no idea it happened.

 

[AV1611VET]

The sheer cliffs are composed of white chalk, or calcite, made by coccolithophores – tiny, single-celled algae.

Yup.

They are made over long periods of time.

Nope.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Mother Nature can't clean up after herself completely.

Her restoration processes are incomplete.

That's why scars, even from a paper cut, can be detected a year later.

And scars tell us that something happened. I have two scars on my hand from when I was bitten by a swan when I was 3. If I said that I got bitten by a swan but didn't have the scars to show it, and all I did was write it down, would that be truthful or no?

If I can think of God doing it, I'm sure He thought of it too.

... okay, you got me on that one.

Yup.

That's what makes it so special.

Without that Paper, we would have no idea it happened.

Except that it's not in the Bible, which is obviously the 'Paper' you're referring to because even the Bible doesn't mention it. Hence why I call your idea extra-Biblical. You are adding to the Bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, it's not a strawman argument since AV does believe and say that Noah's flood was a global flood, and then God cleaned up every single shred of evidence ...

You were good, up to here.

After that ... well ... you went off the deep end.

... and rearranged everything in the world to make it look it didn't happen and that we can only rely on the Bible to tell us that it did.

Let me fix this for you:

"... and terraformed the earth to make it safe and sanitary for replenishment."

(And yes, we can only rely on the Bible -- [not science] -- to tell us what He did.)

 

[Diamond72]

That's just sheer laziness.

Most books can easily be condensed down to a magazine article. The idea often attributed to Einstein is that if you truly understand a concept or idea, you should be able to explain it in simple terms that anyone can understand.

In this case, the chatbot went through a long Wiki article to extract the information I needed very fast. You want me to waste my time with what can be done quickly and easily with a computer.

Often I will ask the chatbot to condense something for me so I do not waste your time. People need a short concise response. To condense complex ideas into simple terms requires a deep understanding of the underly principles.

Also, I use the program to improve my grammar, and spelling and to help me convert the message I am trying to get across into an easy-to-understand short, and concise post.

If I had these programs in college I may have gotten an A in English Grammer instead of a C.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You were good, up to here.

After that ... well ... you went off the deep end.



Let me fix this for you:

"... and terraformed the earth to make it safe and sanitary for replenishment."

(And yes, we can only rely on the Bible -- [not science] -- to tell us that He did.

You still say that God cleaned everything up. And you have also admitted that God purposefully set the bones of dinosaurs and other prehistoric fauna and flora, that lived 6,000 years ago, into areas of rock that have been dated to be several million years old.

Deception, thy name is AV's description of God.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Most books can easily be condensed down to a magazine article. The idea often attributed to Einstein is that if you truly understand a concept or idea, you should be able to explain it in simple terms that anyone can understand.

In this case, the chatbot went through a long Wiki article to extract the information I needed very fast. You want me to waste my time with what can be done quickly and easily with a computer.

Often I will ask the chatbot to condense something for me so I do not waste your time. People need a short concise response. To condense complex ideas into simple terms requires a deep understanding of the underly principles.

Also, I use the program to improve my grammar, and spelling and to help me convert the message I am trying to get across into an easy-to-understand short, and concise post.

If I had these programs in college I may have gotten an A in English Grammer instead of a C.

No, people don't need a short concise response. Many things cannot be given in a short and concise response. If you knew a thing at all, you'd know that.
Just because something CAN doesn't mean it SHOULD.