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Noah's Flood & the Strait of Hormuz

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He is just playing with you. There is always a grain of truth in what he says.
He really is a master at what he does. He is very good at it.
The best part is people get played and don't realize it.

I can assure you that people believed the Flood was global LONG before I was ever born.

Were they "playing with their audiences" as well?
 
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That's just sheer laziness.

Dangerous too.

Getting your theology from a Chatbox is like ... well ...

Would you want your surgeon to get his information from a Chatbox, before he is about to remove your appendix?
 
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Dangerous too.

Getting your theology from a Chatbox is like ... well ...

Would you want your surgeon to get his information from a Chatbox, before he is about to remove your appendix?

It's not even theology. It's just... everything. Trying to parse down so much information into something a chatbox can produce is... well, to be fair, your example is actually a darn good one too.
 
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(And yes, we can only rely on the Bible -- [not science] -- to tell us what He did.)
We are talking about using science to verify what YOU say the Bible says. Of course, Science is filled with half-truths and the Bible is absolute truth. What science said 50 years ago is not what they are saying today.

Ezekiel 17:2 “Son of man, pose a riddle; speak a parable to the house of Israel". Why does God speak to us in riddles and parables and how are we supposed to understand what He is telling us?

In order to understand what God is telling us through parables and riddles, it is important to approach them with an open mind and a willingness to engage with the message. It may also be helpful to consider the historical and cultural context in which the passage was written, as well as to seek guidance and insight from trusted spiritual leaders or resources.
 
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Would you want your surgeon to get his information from a Chatbox, before he is about to remove your appendix?
If the doctor said I needed surgery we would talk about it. I would hope my doctor would use chatbots to help him treat his patients. Far to often doctors are lazy to do the research they should be doing. It is a lot of work to keep up with all the latest research and the chatbot can help with that.

Robot-assisted laparoscopic appendectomy procedure

Robotic surgery
has made removal of the appendix easier, faster, and with less blood loss, more precise stitching, and minimal scarring. It can be performed safely in elective, urgent, or emergency settings.

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I do not do hypothetical questions. If the doctor said I needed surgery we would talk about it. I would hope my doctor would use a chatbot to help educate him on the problems people are having and seeking help on.

Surgeons are using bots now to help them. My dad did appendectomy. He depended on a nurse to help him.

My son has set up and installed robots. They worked on the robots at Amazon.

So you would rather die than to allow them to use a robot to remove your appendix?

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There's a difference between using a bot as a tool, and using a bot to do and teach everything, specially with your insistence that everything be parsed down. Which says more about you than anything else.
 
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@Diamond7 please give us an example of a half-truth in science.
In the context of the book, the half-life of facts refers to the idea that our understanding of the world is constantly evolving and changing as new information is discovered and old information is revised or discarded. This is true in many areas of knowledge, including science, history, and even everyday life.

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In the context of the book, the half-life of facts refers to the idea that our understanding of the world is constantly evolving and changing as new information is discovered and old information is revised or discarded. This is true in many areas of knowledge, including science, history, and even everyday life.

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That's not a half-truth. That is a true fact, our understanding of the world does grow and change as new information is discovered.

You said science is filled with half-truths. I asked you to show me one.

If you can't, you need to really reevaluate what you say on this forum.
 
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There's a difference between using a bot as a tool, and using a bot to do and teach everything, specially with your insistence that everything be parsed down. Which says more about you than anything else.
You ask me questions, I use a bot to answer them for you. You can always do your own research. But IF you want me to do it for you. Then I am going to use a chatbot to help me.

We use AI to correct our spelling and fix our grammar. Google uses AI for their search engine. So really you just want me to use old technology and not the new technology. Do you really want to go back to the commodore 64. We can do that if you want. They still sell them on Amazon.

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You ask me questions, I use a bot to answer them for you. You can always do your own research. But IF you want me to do it for you. Then I am going to use a chatbot to help me.

We use AI to correct our spelling and fix our grammar. Google uses AI for their search engine. So really you just want me to use old technology and not the new technology. Do you really want to go back to the commodore 64. We can do that if you want. They still sell them on Amazon.

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There's a difference between wanting to go back to old technology (which no-one here is saying) and people asking you to use technology either correctly, or to actually use your own initiative and do your own actual research for any topic since you have not once shown that you know how to use your AI to do research properly.
 
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That's not a half-truth. That is a true fact
That is what I was meaning. Next time I will get the chatbot to correct it for me.

Doctors did not use to wash their hands and the death rate was a lot higher.
 
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initiative and do your own actual research
I have done my research. But when I answer your questions I double-check rather than rely on my memory. Then I do what I can to communicate the answer to you in a clear, concise way that you can understand. I took four teacher training classes to improve my communication skills. Two more classes and I could be a certified superintendent.

You simply do not know IF OR WHEN I use the chat bot because you can not distinguish between me and the chat bot if I use one at all to write these posts for me. I would not say anything that I can not show is accurate and true. People know that I always have evidence to back up what I say.
 
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That's not a half-truth.
I think you do not understand how science works. Science is a process of discovery and refinement, and often initial findings and hypotheses have to be modified or even overturned as new evidence emerges.

I asked my doctor once if he wanted me to erase the board and forget what my old doctor told me. Because he is telling me something different. Or two doctors will contradict each other.
 
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That is what I was meaning. Next time I will get the chatbot to correct it for me.

Doctors did not use to wash their hands and the death rate was a lot higher.

No, you don't know what a half-truth is in the slightest. Poor knowledge or not having a full grasp of evidence at hand is not a half truth. The definition of a half-truth is: a statement that conveys only part of the truth, especially one used deliberately in order to mislead someone. Emphasis by me.
When you say 'science is filled with half-truths', then you are deliberately and clearly saying that science lies and misleads. And I asked you to give an example of such a thing.

Do you have an example.

I think you do not understand how science works. Science is a process of discovery and refinement, and often initial findings and hypotheses have to be modified or even overturned as new evidence emerges.

I asked my doctor once if he wanted me to erase the board and forget what my old doctor told me. Because he is telling me something different. Or two doctors will contradict each other.

Oh the funny thing is I SAID THE EXACT SAME BLOODY THING BEFORE!!!
 
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I have done my research. But when I answer your questions I double-check rather than rely on my memory. Then I do what I can to communicate the answer to you in a clear, concise way that you can understand. I took four teacher training classes to improve my communication skills. Two more classes and I could be a certified superintendent.

You simply do not know IF OR WHEN I use the chat bot because you can not distinguish between me and the chat bot if I use one at all to write these posts for me. I would not say anything that I can not show is accurate and true. People know that I always have evidence to back up what I say.

Except that you do not communicate in a clear and concise way because you go back on what you say, you misunderstand yourself and other peoples questions and you also just just do not know a damn thing that you're talking about.

Even if you use an AI, it's still limited by what you put in. So garbage in, garbage out. And you have not once presented any evidence to back up what you say.



Honestly, talking to you is becoming a massive chore and a sure fire way to raise my blood temperature so I'm putting you on my ignore list.
 
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We are talking about using science to verify what YOU say the Bible says.

Science can take a hike.

Use it all you want to "verify" what I, or anyone else says, and see how that works out.

Of course, Science is filled with half-truths and the Bible is absolute truth.

And you expect that to verify what the Bible says!?

What science said 50 years ago is not what they are saying today.

Correct.

They can't verify themselves, let alone the Bible.

In order to understand what God is telling us through parables and riddles, it is important to approach them with an open mind and a willingness to engage with the message.

This isn't about parables and riddles.

This thread is about the Flood.

It may also be helpful to consider the historical and cultural context in which the passage was written, as well as to seek guidance and insight from trusted spiritual leaders or resources.

No argument there.
 
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You ask me questions, I use a bot to answer them for you. You can always do your own research. But IF you want me to do it for you. Then I am going to use a chatbot to help me.

Suit yourself.

In the case of Creationism or the Flood, I can eat a chatbox for breakfast as well.
 
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