Spurgeon Preached Old Earth Creationism

[AV1611VET]

No need for flights of fantasy about a catastrophe that did not happen.

Just for one, there would be a world wide 'flood stratum" that would be easily distinguished.

There isn't.

There should be lots of sediment on the ocean floor, not just on land. There isnt.

You forgot to account for the Australian worm snakes.

Don't forget signs everywhere that should be found that read: NOAH PASSED BY HERE.

 

[inquiring mind]

I just pointed out " uniform distribution" is a crock,
and that distribution by known means is sufficient
anyway.

Oh yeah, the millions and millions of years answer is the only possibility.

 

[inquiring mind]

What are you referring to?

The presence of microbe throughout the planet? (They've been evolving for billions of years. Plenty of time to spread out.)

The distribution and genetic relations of particular microbes?

Something else?

Why does science ignore the possibility of violent eruptions and cooling during a catastrophic flood causing the formation of polar ice?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Oh yeah, the millions and millions of years answer is the only possibility.

For the measured rock layers? Yeah, it is.

 

[inquiring mind]

For the measured rock layers? Yeah, it is.

There are varying opinions to that from scientists who don't have to have it so to protect TOE.

 

[Hans Blaster]

There are varying opinions to that from scientists who don't have to have it so to protect TOE.

Seriously? Is there really variation in the age of (for example) the K-T boundary at 66 Mya among scientists?

 

[Bradskii]

They had a year and a month to breed. Many animals produce large litters.

Unless someone slipped up in selecting the animals.

 

[inquiring mind]

Seriously? Is there really variation in the age of (for example) the K-T boundary at 66 Mya among scientists?

Yes, I have read accounts that dispute that age and claim the layers were laid down rapidly.

 

[driewerf]

There are varying opinions to that from scientists who don't have to have it so to protect TOE.

Are you now suggesting that an entire field of scientists -geologists - are conspiring and falsifying their results because the "true results" would show the ToE wrong?
Are you suggesting that you somehow now these "true results" - despite geologists publishing "falsified results"?

If yes to both above, how do you know these true results? What rocks have you been sampling and analysing?

 

[inquiring mind]

Are you now suggesting that an entire field of scientists -geologists - are conspiring and falsifying their results because the "true results" would show the ToE wrong?
Are you suggesting that you somehow now these "true results" - despite geologists publishing "falsified results"?

Nope, I think they believe it to the point that in every case they interpret it in a way that protects TOE.

 

[driewerf]

Nope, I think they believe it to the point that in every case they interpret it in a way that protects TOE.

But you know better? Better than the entire field of geologists combined?

 

[inquiring mind]

But you know better? Better than the entire field of geologists combined?

Nope, but I don’t think for one minute that mainstream scientists are going to remotely accept something that would prove them DAs… do you?

 

[Astrid]

Oh yeah, the millions and millions of years answer is the only possibility.

I hope you will stop that "only millions
oh years possible" thing.
I'm not wedded to one idea.
Nor do I ever do "only possibility".
The day I am is the day my integrity dies.
If you can accept that, and can say the
same for yourself, we can continue, with
a sensible and respectful discussion.

It wasn't especially respectful to hand
wave a reasoned response to your
question, with an untruth about me
personally .

 

[Astrid]

Nope, but I don’t think for one minute that mainstream scientists are going to remotely accept something that would prove them DAs… do you?

DA?
Your charge that all "mainstream"
geologists are intellectually dishonest
is not reasonable. And it's certainly
not supporting evidence for any
radical concepts in geology.

 

[inquiring mind]

I hope you will stop that "only millions
oh years possible" thing.
I'm not wedded to one idea.
Nor do I ever do "only possibility".
The day I am is the day my integrity dies.
If you can accept that, and can say the
same for yourself, we can continue, with
a sensible and respectful discussion.

It wasn't especially respectful to hand
wave a reasoned response to your
question, with an untruth about me
personally .

I will try my best, but I assure you that the expression was/is mostly for expediency and nothing personal.

 

[Astrid]

Nope, I think they believe it to the point that in every case they interpret it in a way that protects TOE.

You are charging falsification.

 

[inquiring mind]

DA?
Your charge that all "mainstream"
geologists are intellectually dishonest
is not reasonable. And it's certainly
not supporting evidence for any
radical concepts in geology.

What expression would you use.... oh, never mind, we may have made a colossal mistake.

 

[Astrid]

Yes, I have read accounts that dispute that age and claim the layers were laid down rapidly.

Show us actual research data that supports
this and disproves all the data for annual layers.

Anyone can write " accounts" of anything they like.
Sans data, it's just words like a " flood water to Neptune"
account.

 

[inquiring mind]

You are charging falsification.

Nope, if you truly believe something you're not falsifying.

 

[inquiring mind]

Show us actual research data that supports
this and disproves all the data for annual layers.

Anyone can write " accounts" of anything they like.
Sans data, it's just words like a " flood water to Neptune"
account.

It might be beneficial for you to research in a different way than you normally do.