NASA Scientists Present Theory About Why We Haven't Met Other Intelligent Life. It's Crushing.

[Sorn]

The Bible is wrong about a lot of things.

Perhaps, but obviously as a Christian I take the central core tenets of it to be true. My post is about the implications for alien life if indeed Christianity is true, ie there is none, we are it.

 

[Neogaia777]

The Bible is wrong about a lot of things.

Correction, the way man has read and interpreted it (the Bible) (not 100% completely objectively either way historically about a lot of things, etc) has led many a man to have or believe and/or teach and preach, etc, the wrong theology, etc, or to believe the Bible is just flat out wrong about a lot of things, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Tinker Grey]

Perhaps, but obviously as a Christian I take the central core tenets of it to be true. My post is about the implications for alien life if indeed Christianity is true, ie there is none, we are it.

Perhaps you are limiting your god's imagination.

 

[Sorn]

Perhaps you are limiting your god's imagination.

Perhaps you should read my post #59

 

[AV1611VET]

This was all in and according to God the Father's plan/plans originally, but was not what God the Spirit had in mind specifically originally,

So who was God talking to, when He said ...

Genesis 1:26a And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

 

[Sorn]

So who was God talking to, when He said ...

Genesis 1:26a And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Perhaps it was God the Father speaking to the Son and to the Holy Spirit. They are 3 persons (in one) after all

 

[AV1611VET]

Perhaps it was God the Father speaking to the Son and to the Holy Spirit. They are 3 persons (in one) after all

I totally agree.

 

[Neogaia777]

So who was God talking to, when He said ...

Genesis 1:26a And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

God the Spirit was talking to the Angels.

And it was the start of all the trouble when He said that, or decided to do that, etc.

God Bless!

 

[Tinker Grey]

Perhaps you should read my post #59

I stand by my assessment.

 

[Frank Robert]

Perhaps, but obviously as a Christian I take the central core tenets of it to be true. My post is about the implications for alien life if indeed Christianity is true, ie there is none, we are it.

That is according to particular denominational beliefs. Many think the bible is silent on alien life but with ~45,000 Christian denominations there are likely many that interpret the bible as saying that life is confined to earth.

 

[Neogaia777]

And before someone says it, the Bible says the God the Spirit does not change, believe me, I've heard it before, etc, but this does not mean He did not learn or grow, or ever change, etc, let me explain...

Right and wrong does not change, will not change, and never does or ever will change at all ever, etc, regardless or what the world says or might tell you ever, etc, but, the way God the Spirit handles what man does right, or else wrong, has changed, and does/did change with Jesus Christ, etc, but God the Spirit has always been right about right and wrong and that never will/has/does/ever will change, etc...

So God the Spirit is different in how He deals with us/handles us now than He used to be, etc, and He is withholding judgement until Jesus returns from where He went to, which is where the Father always is/was/has always been, etc...

Jesus did not tell us exactly how He would judge each one specifically when He comes back, but only that He is going to judge when He comes back, and also keep in mind that right and wrong has not changed also, and I think might be to keep us on our toes a little bit, and keep each one of us on what is the straight and narrow for each one of us each individually until He comes back, etc...

God the Spirit became much more like Jesus after Jesus, etc, and is "that way" with us for the most part right now until Jesus comes back, etc, and He also knows a heck of a lot more now than He used to know now thanks to Jesus, and is our "wonderful counselor/advisor/helper" right now until Jesus returns or comes back, etc, and we will never ever go beyond Him or ever get in before Him or ahead of Him ever, etc, God the Spirit, etc, so don't make the mistake of underestimating Him, He knows and will always know, "more well than you can imagine", etc, so don't underestimate Him, etc, and be very, very glad that you/me/we have Him with us always right now as our counselor/advisor/helper right now until Jesus returns, etc...

When Jesus returns, He is going to judge with the Father's judgement, and we'll just have to see who is still left here still, or is still left standing after that, etc, it will probably not be what many people here are right now assuming right now here, etc, so be on your toes for that, etc...

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

God the Spirit was talking to the Angels.

And it was the start of all the trouble when He said that, or decided to do that, etc.

God Bless!

Do you know the difference between God [Elohom] and LORD God [JEHOVAH Elohim]?

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

 

[AV1611VET]

So God the Spirit is different in how He deals with us/handles us now than He used to be, etc, and He is withholding judgement until Jesus returns from where He went to, which is where the Father always is/was/has always been, etc...

Tell that to Ananias and Sapphira [Acts 5].

 

[Neogaia777]

Do you know the difference between God [Elohom] and LORD God [JEHOVAH Elohim]?

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Jehovah or YHWH is God's own personal name, while Elohim is the Hebrew word for the much more general word or term "God", etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Tell that to Ananias and Sapphira [Acts 5].

While the church was first being built or established, God was willing to work through the judgments of the Apostles and disciples for a time until it was firmly established and those original Apostles and disciples had moved on or had passed away, etc, but He no longer does that anymore now, and hasn't really since those original Apostles/disciples or the early church was first started, etc...

Or at least I haven't seen it with any other human after that or since then or after they passed away, etc, and I refuse to believe that this is because God is impotent, or is not still able to, etc, but just that He no longer chooses to because of His mercy and His witholding severe judgements up until now, etc...

It's funny that people think this is always a good thing, etc, but the truth is that when God chooses to withhold His judgements, things and the world, and bad things that happen to people and in the world, etc, only go from bad, to very much more bad, to very, very much more worse, before it can ever get any better, etc, and is that not what we are seeing right now today, etc? things going from bad, to very bad, to very, very much more worse, etc? And I think this is because of God withholding His judgements until Jesus returns, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Tell that to Ananias and Sapphira [Acts 5].

You know, what Peter did to Ananias and Sapphira is exactly what Jesus is going to do to when He comes back, He is going to speak or say a few words to everyone before everyone else still watching or standing, and they will either fall over dead in that instant or in the very moment after Jesus is done speaking to them, or they will still be left standing, in which case they will go on, and continue on, or will get to continue to still live, etc, but there is going to be a separating and sorting work either way, etc...

And the survivors will get to take part in the thousand year reign with Him either way, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

@AV1611VET

It is pretty evident that we do not see God the Spirit handling or dealing with us in the exact same way we saw Him do in the OT, and this is not because He disappeared or is no longer here or is impotent, etc, but it is only because He is choosing to be with us different and handle us different until Jesus returns or comes back, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

@AV1611VET

It is pretty evident that we do not see God the Spirit handling or dealing with us in the exact same way we saw Him do in the OT, and this is not because He disappeared or is no longer here or is impotent, etc, but it is only because He is choosing to be with us different and handle us different until Jesus returns or comes back, etc...

God Bless!

And as far as Jesus judgements go when He returns or comes back, they will be 100% irrefutable and undeniable to and before all, etc, and some will fall over dead right then and there because of it, etc...

God Bless!

 

[AV1611VET]

Jehovah or YHWH is God's own personal name, while Elohim is the Hebrew word for the much more general word or term "God", etc...

God Bless!

ELOHIM = all Three in One = the Godhead, Trinity, Triunity, etc.

JEHOVAH = God the Father = First Person of the Godhead

 

[AV1611VET]

While the church was first being built or established, God was willing to work through the judgments of the Apostles and disciples for a time until it was firmly established and those original Apostles and disciples had moved on or had passed away, etc, but He no longer does that anymore now, and hasn't really since those original Apostles/disciples or the early church was first started, etc...

Or at least I haven't seen it with any other human after that or since then or after they passed away, etc, and I refuse to believe that this is because God is impotent, or is not still able to, etc, but just that He no longer chooses to because of His mercy and His witholding severe judgements up until now, etc...

It's funny that people think this is always a good thing, etc, but the truth is that when God chooses to withhold His judgements, things and the world, and bad things that happen to people and in the world, etc, only go from bad, to very much more bad, to very, very much more worse, before it can ever get any better, etc, and is that not what we are seeing right now today, etc? things going from bad, to very bad, to very, very much more worse, etc? And I think this is because of God withholding His judgements until Jesus returns, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

What you just described in your post is what is called ontological subordination.

That's when one Member of the Godhead is in the foreground doing the work, while the other Two are in the background lending support.

In the Old Testament, God the Father was in the forefront, while the other two Members made "cameo appearances."

In the beginning of the New Testament, God the Son took the forefront.

At Pentecost, God the Holy Ghost took the forefront.

At the return of Christ, God the son will again take the forefront for a thousand years.