Ten Reasons I'm a Sabbatarian [moved thread]

[Cornelius8L]

Heb 4 says the Sabbath rest "remains" for the people of God. "Remains from when?"" According to Heb 4 - it remains from what it was at the time of David - in the OT text it quotes. So how was the Sabbath defined in David's day? hmmm - 7th day of the week.

Heb 4 uses it as symbol or type - since it "remains" for something else that also remains - in the promised rest - for all. But if it had been deleted it could not be a symbol for that which remains.

You will know what remains if you read Hebrews 4 line by line from V1-11 without rearranging the reading sequence or extracting the verse out of its overall context.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The Lord's Day is neither Sat or Sun. It is the time when the Lord himself returns. John was in the Spirit on that day and told to write about that past, present and future of that time period -the Lord's Day. The Lord's Day is just another way of stating the Day of the Lord/Day of Christ. It's not a day of the week and it was never described as such by anyone that way in the bible. Traditions of men have made it a day of the week.

Our major clue is the description of Christ himself. Which mirrors his return later on in the book.

Even if we took your interpretation of σαββατισμὸς as a heavenly rest it still doesn’t mean we can break the Sabbath. Hebrews 4:10 makes this clear, plus the saints keep the commandments of God and the Sabbath is a commandment of God. Exodus 20 Exodus 34:28

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

To enter His rest one has ceased from their works as God did from His. This is a direct reference to the Sabbath and Hebrews 4:4 reminds us that God ceased from His works on the seventh day.

Hebrews 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

Your interpretation of σαββατισμὸς does not fit the context of Hebrews 4:9 because it is something that remains meaning something we have been given. σαββατισμὸς is only listed in the Bible here for the first time so it can’t be a new heavenly rest when its something that has been given and remains, which is why it literally translate into the keeping of the Sabbath for God’s people, which is not a unique concept. Ezekiel 20:12, Ezekiel 20:20

The literal translation of this word σαββατισμὸς means the keeping of the Sabbath and why this is literally translated by multiple strong concordance, greek lexicon etc.

GREEK INTERLINEAR
HEBREWS 4:9 άρα (Then) απολείπεται (there is left) σαββατισμός (a Sabbath keeping) τω (to the) λαώ (people) του θεού (of God)

GREEK LEXICON OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, Abbott-Smith - G4520
*† σαββατισμός, - οῦ, ὁ(< σαββατίζω, to keep the sabbath Exod 16:30, al.),
a keeping sabbath, a sabbath rest: metaph., as in Mishna (Zorell, s.v.), Heb 4:9.†

LIDDEL/SCOTT/JONES GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON - G4520
σαββατισμός Σαββᾰτ-ισμός, ὁ, a keeping of days of rest, Ep. Heb 4:9, cf. Plu. 2.166a (codd., βαπτισμούς Bentley).

STRONGS Greek 4520: A keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest. From a derivative of sabbaton; a 'sabbatism'

STRONGS CONCORDENCE
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest Definition: a sabbath rest Usage (DOING): a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. THAYER - G4520
G4520 — σαββατισμός σαββατισμου, ὁ (σαββατίζω to keep the sabbath);

W. E. VINE, GREEK DICTIONARY
Sabbath rest (4520) (sabbatismos from sabbatízo = keep the Sabbath) literally means a keeping of a sabbath or a keeping of days of rest.

Hope this help!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You will know what remains if you read Hebrews 4 line by line from V1-11 without rearranging the reading sequence or extracting the verse out of its overall context.

Nonsense.

 

[Leaf473]

Another passage about why the apostles were often in a synagogue on the Sabbath,

1 Corinthians 9
For though I was free from all, I brought myself under bondage to all, that I might gain the more. 20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law,[a] that I might gain those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law. 22 To the weak I became as weak, that I might gain the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I may by all means save some.

Where do you find Jews and those under the law? In a synagogue on the Sabbath.

Peace be with you all!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Another passage about why the apostles were often in a synagogue on the Sabbath,

1 Corinthians 9
For though I was free from all, I brought myself under bondage to all, that I might gain the more. 20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law,[a] that I might gain those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law. 22 To the weak I became as weak, that I might gain the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I may by all means save some.

Where do you find Jews and those under the law? In a synagogue on the Sabbath.

Peace be with you all!

Interesting, but I don’t see anywhere in this scripture that says this is why we were in the synagogue on the Sabbath. This appears to be ones own idea entering it in the text thats not there.

Instead we have the apostles telling us:

Acts 14:44 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Preaching God’s Word on the Sabbath.

 

[Leaf473]

Interesting, but I don’t see anywhere in this scripture that says this is why we were in the synagogue on the Sabbath. This appears to be ones own idea entering it in the text thats not there.

Instead we have the apostles telling us:

Acts 14:44 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Preaching God’s Word on the Sabbath.

I believe that goes along with what I was saying.

Those gentiles were under the law. That's why they were in a synagogue on the Sabbath, they were keeping the Sabbath.

Paul says that to those under the law, he became as one under the law.

So he became as one keeping the Sabbath in order to win those who were keeping the Sabbath.

"For though I was free from all, I brought myself under bondage to all", he says.

Peace be with you!

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I believe that goes along with what I was saying.

Those gentiles were under the law. That's why they were in a synagogue on the Sabbath, they were keeping the Sabbath.

Paul says that to those under the law, he became as one under the law.

So he became as one keeping the Sabbath in order to win those who were keeping the Sabbath.

"For though I was free from all, I brought myself under bondage to all", he says.

Peace be with you!

This seems to make a better case:

1 Corinthians 11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

Where was Christ on the Sabbath? In the synagogues reading the scriptures. Luke 4:16

The apostles continued to observe the Sabbath commissioned by Jesus to observe everything He commanded, by preaching every Sabbath and to Jew Gentiles and whole cities.

Paul said what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19 and the Sabbath is a commandment of God taught by Jesus, the disciples and God.

The Sabbath is a day of rest and communion with God, God's holy day that is blessed and sanctified Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13 Genesis 2:1-3 for one to think that means bondage, I can't help but wonder how God feels about that.

 

[JulieB67]

To enter His rest one has ceased from their works as God did from His. This is a direct reference to the Sabbath and Hebrews 4:4 reminds us that God ceased from His works on the seventh day.

The key words you and others keep missing is "his rest" It is a direct reference to his rest, not Sabbaton which isn't even used at all in Hebrews 4. We have to enter "his rest". Again that's sabbatimos and it's 24/7 rest, not one day of the week. As Paul taught, the sabbath "days" are a shadow of what we have in Christ. We aren't talking just the holydays which are the festival days. He very clearly included the sabbath days (Sabbaton). The example of God resting his works is that we cease from our on when we enter "his rest". Do you honestly believe we are talking physical works here when we enter his rest? Of course not. Most have to keep physically working. That's why sabbatimos is different from a day of rest. His rest if not a day of rest.

And as many others have stated. If one is trying to convert the Jews, etc, of course they're going to do it on the Sabbath days because that's when they'll be in the synogogues. But it didn't stop Christians getting together daily at times. And Paul himself even preached on the first day of the week well into midnight in one instance.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The key words you and others keep missing is "his rest" It is a direct reference to his rest, not Sabbaton which isn't even used at all in Hebrews 4. We have to enter "his rest". Again that's sabbatimos and it's 24/7 rest, not one day of the week. As Paul taught, the sabbath "days" are a shadow of what we have in Christ. We aren't talking just the holydays which are the festival days. He very clearly included the sabbath days (Sabbaton).

And as many others have stated. If one is trying to convert the Jews, etc, of course they're going to do it on the Sabbath days because that's when they'll be in the synogogues. But it didn't stop Christians getting together daily at times. And Paul himself even preached on the first day of the week well into midnight in one instance.

Not missing His rest, its very clear in Hebrews 4:4 when God's rest is:

Hebrews 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”

How is that not clear?

It's a quote from creation

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

and the certain place God spoke is a reference to the Sabbath commandment

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.



And there is no scripture that says this:

Again that's sabbatimos and it's 24/7 rest,.

Your argument appears to be more with the Text

 

[Bob S]

Bob S makes so many statements "for others" without actually having a quote of one... it is losing its entertainment value.

6T 356.3
It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.” 1 Samuel 2:30.

6T 362.1
All heaven is keeping the Sabbath, but not in a listless, do-nothing way. On this day every energy of the soul should be awake, for are we not to meet with God and with Christ our Saviour? We may behold Him by faith. He is longing to refresh and bless every soul.

 

[BobRyan]

Since the prophet taught we are saved by observing the law

It is entertaining to see you "quote you" and then blame it on someone else -- but I don't find it compelling. You have free will of course and can do that as often as you wish.

6T 356.3
It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.” 1 Samuel 2:30.

God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.” 1 Samuel 2:30??? So you are ok with that???

ok - well I am also "ok" with the following:


"No other institution which was committed to the Jews tended so fully to distinguish them from surrounding nations as did the Sabbath. God designed that its observance should designate them as His worshipers. It was to be a token of their separation from idolatry, and their connection with the true God. But in order to keep the Sabbath holy, men must themselves be holy. Through faith they must become partakers of the righteousness of Christ. When the command was given to Israel, “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy,” the Lord said also to them, “Ye shall be holy men unto Me.” Exodus 20:8; 22:31. Only thus could the Sabbath distinguish Israel as the worshipers of God. DA 283.3

What we don't see there is :

Since the prophet taught we are saved by observing the law

And we don't find it here:

"While we are to be in harmony with God's law, we are not saved by the works of the law, yet we cannot be saved without obedience. The law is the standard by which character is measured. But we cannot possibly keep the commandments of God without the regenerating grace of Christ. Jesus alone can cleanse us from all sin. He does not save us by law, neither will he save us in disobedience to law." ST July 21, 1890, par. 7

Matt 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

1 John 3:4 - "Sin IS lawlessness"
"Sin IS transgression of the Law"

James 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the Law as violators. 10 For whoever keeps the whole Law, yet stumbles in one point, has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do murder, you have become a violator of the Law. 12 So speak, and so act, as those who are to be judged by the law of freedom

18 But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20 But are you willing to acknowledge, you foolish person, that faith without works is useless?

Rom 2:13
13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the Law who will be justified.

1 Cor 6:
7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather suffer the wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 On the contrary, you yourselves do wrong and defraud. And this to your brothers and sisters!
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

6T 362.1
All heaven is keeping the Sabbath, but not in a listless, do-nothing way.

 

[Leaf473]

This seems to make a better case:

1 Corinthians 11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

Where was Christ on the Sabbath? In the synagogues reading the scriptures. Luke 4:16

The apostles continued to observe the Sabbath commissioned by Jesus to observe everything He commanded, by preaching every Sabbath and to Jew Gentiles and whole cities.

Paul said what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19 and the Sabbath is a commandment of God taught by Jesus, the disciples and God.

The Sabbath is a day of rest and communion with God, God's holy day that is blessed and sanctified Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13 Genesis 2:1-3 for one to think that means bondage, I can't help but wonder how God feels about that.

Yes, we imitate Paul as he imitated Christ. That doesn't mean we do everything that Jesus did. Jesus was born under the law.

Matthew 8
Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I want to. Be made clean.” Immediately his leprosy was cleansed. 4 Jesus said to him, “See that you tell nobody; but go, show yourself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

We don't tell people whose skin condition has resolved to go and show themselves to the priest. So following Paul and Jesus doesn't mean doing everything they did.

 

[Leaf473]

This seems to make a better case:

1 Corinthians 11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

Where was Christ on the Sabbath? In the synagogues reading the scriptures. Luke 4:16

The apostles continued to observe the Sabbath commissioned by Jesus to observe everything He commanded, by preaching every Sabbath and to Jew Gentiles and whole cities.

Paul said what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19 and the Sabbath is a commandment of God taught by Jesus, the disciples and God.

The Sabbath is a day of rest and communion with God, God's holy day that is blessed and sanctified Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13 Genesis 2:1-3 for one to think that means bondage, I can't help but wonder how God feels about that.

Another thing that Jesus did that we don't do is keep the feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem.

(A cool thing about this passage is that it parallels Isaiah 66 where everyone goes to Jerusalem for the new moons and sabbaths.)

Zechariah 14
It will happen that everyone who is left of all the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of Armies, and to keep the feast of booths.

 

[BobRyan]

This seems to make a better case:
1 Corinthians 11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

Yes, we imitate Paul as he imitated Christ. That doesn't mean we do everything that Jesus did. .

By contrast John argues this --
"3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever follows His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says that he remains in Him ought, himself also, walk just as He walked."

1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"
Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus"

 

[Leaf473]

By contrast John argues this --
"3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever follows His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says that he remains in Him ought, himself also, walk just as He walked."

By contrast to what? Do you mean that you do say this to people whose skin conditions has resolved?

Matthew 8
Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I want to. Be made clean.” Immediately his leprosy was cleansed. 4 Jesus said to him, “See that you tell nobody; but go, show yourself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

Peace be with you!

 

[Leaf473]

Jesus going up to Jerusalem for the feast of Tabernacles,

John 7
Having said these things to them, he stayed in Galilee. 10 But when his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly, but as it were in secret.

Again, not something we do today.

Peace be with you all!

 

[bbbbbbb]

On a positive note, there are loads of things we take for granted today that never even crossed the minds of Jesus or Paul. These are things such as flying through the air, traveling under the water, getting meals at a fast food restaurant, heating our churches (a huge cause of debate in the seventeenth century) and even having umbrellas.

 

[Bob S]

God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.” 1 Samuel 2:30??? So you are ok with that???

ok - well I am also "ok" with the following:


"No other institution which was committed to the Jews tended so fully to distinguish them from surrounding nations as did the Sabbath. God designed that its observance should designate them as His worshipers. It was to be a token of their separation from idolatry, and their connection with the true God. But in order to keep the Sabbath holy, men must themselves be holy. Through faith they must become partakers of the righteousness of Christ. When the command was given to Israel, “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy,” the Lord said also to them, “Ye shall be holy men unto Me.” Exodus 20:8; 22:31. Only thus could the Sabbath distinguish Israel as the worshipers of God. DA 283.3

What we don't see there is :


And we don't find it here:

"While we are to be in harmony with God's law, we are not saved by the works of the law, yet we cannot be saved without obedience. The law is the standard by which character is measured. But we cannot possibly keep the commandments of God without the regenerating grace of Christ. Jesus alone can cleanse us from all sin. He does not save us by law, neither will he save us in disobedience to law." ST July 21, 1890, par. 7

6T 356.3
It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.” In that statement Ellen is telling those who believe her writings that one must keep the LAW of Sabbath keeping in order to be saved. That is unequivocally salvation by works. Ellen spoke with forked tongue.

The real fact is that there is absolutely no scripture that demands Gentiles or Christians of any race to observe the Sabbath. God only put that demand on one nation, Israel. So, the real fact is Christians and Gentiles are not sinning because we do not keep the Israelite Sabbath. Where there is no law there is no sin. Sabbath was a ritual command given only to Israel. Christians are not under the ritual commands given only to Israel.

Matt 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

Jesus was preaching to the Jews who were under the old covenant and its Law. I am not living under the old covenant and its law. Jesus gave us a new and better covenant of grace without the works of the Law. If that is not true Paul was just a tinkling cymbal.

1 John 3:4 - "Sin IS lawlessness"
"Sin IS transgression of the Law"

Don't you want to know what John meant by that statement? Why did you stop with that statement? John finished that chapter telling us we belong to the truth by doing two things, believe and love, verse 22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. Then John tells us what we are to do to keep from transgressing the law, Verse 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. Did you read John telling us we must keep the ritual Sabath?

James 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the Law as violators. 10 For whoever keeps the whole Law, yet stumbles in one point, has become guilty of all.

I submit to you that every Sabbath you and all the ones that believe in keeping the old ritual Sabbath of the Israelites stumble in keeping it Holy as prescribed in scripture and according to your prophet. It is all lip service and what has been accomplished, nothing. The Israelites made a mockery out of the command and those today do the same thing and for something that is not even part of our duty as believers under laws of the new covenant.

 

[BobRyan]

"No other institution which was committed to the Jews tended so fully to distinguish them from surrounding nations as did the Sabbath. God designed that its observance should designate them as His worshipers. It was to be a token of their separation from idolatry, and their connection with the true God. But in order to keep the Sabbath holy, men must themselves be holy. Through faith they must become partakers of the righteousness of Christ. When the command was given to Israel, “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy,” the Lord said also to them, “Ye shall be holy men unto Me.” Exodus 20:8; 22:31. Only thus could the Sabbath distinguish Israel as the worshipers of God. DA 283.3

What we don't see there is :

Since the prophet taught we are saved by observing the law

and we don't find it here

"While we are to be in harmony with God's law, we are not saved by the works of the law, yet we cannot be saved without obedience. The law is the standard by which character is measured. But we cannot possibly keep the commandments of God without the regenerating grace of Christ. Jesus alone can cleanse us from all sin. He does not save us by law, neither will he save us in disobedience to law." ST July 21, 1890, par. 7

But we do find this

Matt 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

1 John 3:4 - "Sin IS lawlessness"
"Sin IS transgression of the Law"

James 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the Law as violators. 10 For whoever keeps the whole Law, yet stumbles in one point, has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do murder, you have become a violator of the Law. 12 So speak, and so act, as those who are to be judged by the law of freedom

18 But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20 But are you willing to acknowledge, you foolish person, that faith without works is useless?

Rom 2:13
13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the Law who will be justified.

1 Cor 6:
7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather suffer the wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 On the contrary, you yourselves do wrong and defraud. And this to your brothers and sisters!
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

6T 356.3
It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.”

Yes we read that already -- did you notice??

you posted it this way

Bob S said: ↑
6T 356.3
It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: “Them that honor Me I will honor.” 1 Samuel 2:30.

In that statement Ellen is telling those who believe her writings to honor God ---

Bob S said: ↑
In that statement Ellen is telling those who believe her writings
one must keep the LAW of Sabbath keeping in order to be saved.

That is you "quoting you" again.

Did you notice? I did.

In Is 56:6-8 God calls upon gentiles not to profane His Sabbath day -

6 “Also the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord,
To attend to His service and to love the name of the Lord,
To be His servants, every one who keeps the Sabbath so as not to profane it,
And holds firmly to My covenant;
7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar;
For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”


Is it your claim that Isaiah is preaching salvation by works???

 

[BobRyan]

Christ's teaching "the Sabbath made for MANKIND" Mark 2:7 --

Isaiah says that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth -- "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23

Christians and gentiles in Sabbath services "every Sabbath" Acts 18:4 in the NT

I submit to you that every Sabbath you and all the ones that believe in keeping the old ritual Sabbath of the Israelites stumble in keeping it Holy

False accusations, ad hominem etc is not the compelling form of Bible study that you appear to suggest