Creationist thoughts on dinosaurs?

[Astrid]

Correct away, although presumably you'd want to know what I think about it first. A general correction of what you think people believe about it would be ok though and would save some typing time on my part.

Nb. Middle English.

Middle.
A lot of people think the bible account is accurate history.
So tell away, what you believe about flood.

 

[Tom 1]

Middle.
A lot of people think the bible account iscliterally true.
So tell away, what you believe about flood.

I’m not sure how many people believe that, there might be a poll somewhere. Most people I have known personally are generally more interested in what the meaning of it is, as analogous of something or other, and don’t give a lot of thought as to whether there was an actual flood or not.

As a trope or motif, the idea of a new start or at least a catastrophic near ending of human life, flood stories are quite common in ancient literature. In specifically Hebrew literature, at the time it was written there were already some ritual washing practices (I think, certainly there were later, so possibly a chicken and egg question but I think it’s more likely the the idea of rebirth through water already existed), precursors of Christian baptism, so it may be that is the purpose of it, something to mark that sense of rebirth from chaos, the roots of Hebrew community coming out of that new beginning.

 

[Astrid]

I’m not sure how many people believe that, there might be a poll somewhere. Most people I have known personally are generally more interested in what the meaning of it is, as analogous of something or other, and don’t give a lot of thought as to whether there was an actual flood or not.

As a trope or motif, the idea of a new start or at least a catastrophic near ending of human life, flood stories are quite common in ancient literature. In specifically Hebrew literature, at the time it was written there were already some ritual washing practices (I think, certainly there were later, so possibly a chicken and egg question but I think it’s more likely the the idea of rebirth through water already existed), precursors of Christian baptism, so it may be that is the purpose of it, something to mark that sense of rebirth from chaos, the roots of Hebrew community coming out of that new beginning.

" Dont give a lot of thought" to whether or not the god they
worship actually did such a ( adjectives deleted) thing.

You didnt specify what you think.
Why suggest dinosaurs died in said " flood" if you
dont believe that its a historical event?

 

[Tom 1]

You didnt specify what you think.

That is what I think, as I said I think the flood story is a motif for new beginnings.

" Dont give a lot of thought" to whether or not the god they
worship actually did such a ( adjectives deleted) thing.

A lot of belief, in anything, is based around a few ideas and a lot of empty space that the brain kind of slides over. No-one's world view is free of these kinds of grey areas people don't give much thought to.

Why suggest dinosaurs died in said " flood" you

Where did I suggest that?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Ye= you. I stand corrected on my old English.

To be fair, "ye" is also used in UK English as an (incorrect) way of writing þe (þ was pronounced "th") in an effort to sound old - hence the abundance of businesses in UK called "Ye Olde Shoppe". Thorn (þ) is no longer used and has been replaced by "th", but the desire to have a link to the past is strong so we use "ye" as the closest written representation we have.

 

[Astrid]

That is what I think, as I said I think the flood story is a motif for new beginnings.



A lot of belief, in anything, is based around a few ideas and a lot of empty space that the brain kind of slides over. No-one's world view is free of these kinds of grey areas people don't give much thought to.



Where did I suggest that?

Ha. Estrid is rong, again! That wasnt you who said it!

 

[Tom 1]

Ha. Estrid is rong, again! That wasnt you who said it!

Terence Malik's Tree of Life is a v interesting movie if you want to get an overview of what a generally western/Christian inspired notion of how it all fits together looks like.

 

[AV1611VET]

Terence Malik's Tree of Life is a v interesting movie if you want to get an overview of what a generally western/Christian inspired notion of how it all fits together looks like.

Hollywood and the Bible.

There's a match made in aitch.

Does he point out that God set the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge before Adam and Eve because He always ...

Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Hollywood and the Bible.

There's a match made in aitch.

Does he point out that God set the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge before Adam and Eve because He always ...

Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Is there a rule against saying hell or something?

 

[Tom 1]

Hollywood and the Bible.

There's a match made in aitch.

Does he point out that God set the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge before Adam and Eve because He always ...

Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

That's not what the film is about.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's not what the film is about.

Why is it rated PG 13?

 

[Tom 1]

Why is it rated PG 13?

Please hold while I redirect your enquiry to someone who can help: Film Ratings

Let me know what they say.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Why is it rated PG 13?

In the UK, it's a 12A rating.

Though looking at th IMDB page, it's mainly for swearing and a few scenes of violence.

 

[Platte]

Exactly what it says on the tin: What are Creationist thoughts on dinosaurs?

I'm curious and I would like to know.

Prior to the flood life expectancy was much longer - that is why animals, especially reptiles grew very large. As life expectancy dropped after the flood, the size of animals greatly reduced also. That is why you no longer have dinosaurs today. There was no comet and it wasn’t millions of years ago.

 

[Shemjaza]

Prior to the flood life expectancy was much longer - that is why animals, especially reptiles grew very large. As life expectancy dropped after the flood, the size of animals greatly reduced also. That is why you no longer have dinosaurs today. There was no comet and it wasn’t millions of years ago.

Dinosaurs were structured differently to modern animals.
Dinosaurs came in sizes from tiny to titanic.
Not a single modern species is ever found in the same layers as a dinosaur.
Dinosaurs bones have fossilised and turned to stone.

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I appologise, I did not intend to turn this into an antagonistic debate. But please look into the size and structure of dinosaur fossils some time.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Dinosaurs were structured differently to modern animals.
Dinosaurs came in sizes from tiny to titanic.
Not a single modern species is ever found in the same layers as a dinosaur.
Dinosaurs bones have fossilised and turned to stone.

To be fair, I didn't set this up as a debate thread. I just asked because I was curious.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Prior to the flood life expectancy was much longer - that is why animals, especially reptiles grew very large. As life expectancy dropped after the flood, the size of animals greatly reduced also. That is why you no longer have dinosaurs today. There was no comet and it wasn’t millions of years ago.

Though on that, I do have to ask: how dos all of that explain how and why the dinosaurs had such a massive variety of body forms, forms that we've not seen in any animals alive today, even on smaller scale?

 

[Kylie]

As life expectancy dropped after the flood, the size of animals greatly reduced also.

And yet the largest creature that we have evidence for is alive today - the Blue Whale. This seems to go against the whole "body size decreased after the flood" idea you've got.

 

[Nithavela]

Well I'm an Old Earth Creationist and follow Hugh Ross point of view on the basic topic. He believes they lived way before the age of man, and God used them to intelligently Design the World for the later appearance of man, basically God knew about us wanting to make lots of vehicles and power plants that run on fossil fuels and was happy to provide us with lots of oil and coal made from former dead animals and plants.

Any reason god burried most of the oil under the land owned by muslims?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Any reason god burried most of the oil under the land owned by muslims?

No. Stop it. Stop.