Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

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System / culture / social mores / power structure whatever all you want to call it.

Chinatown set up its own system, black people set up theirs in the hood.
But you know all of that.
Not everybody in the hood is a part of that street culture I was talking about.
 
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Not everybody in the hood is a part of that street culture I was talking about.
They are a part of a different culture though. They don't call police like most people do. They have a no snitch policy they live by.
 
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They are a part of a different culture though. They don't call police like most people do. They have a no snitch policy they live by.
People who are not a part of that culture ignore that no snitch policy. Why do you think so many people in the hood call the police when they see crime happening?
 
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Why are they wanting in if it opresses people?
Oh, it’s better here. Though, as we are discussing, some folk don’t think that it is near “good enough” yet.

We can know when that is “good enough” when the complaints about how it is unfair ease up.
 
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Oh, it’s better here. Though, as we are discussing, some folk don’t think that it is near “good enough” yet.

We can know when that is “good enough” when the complaints about how it is unfair ease up.
Not all the complaints have merit. Look at me. The Asians have privilege i don't have, and I'm a victim of systemic racism, but I'm not complaining.
 
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Not all the complaints have merit. Look at me. The Asians have privilege i don't have, and I'm a victim of systemic racism, but I'm not complaining.
So the people under you should take it as well as you do?
 
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So the people under you should take it as well as you do?
Maybe no one is taking it. There could be reasons for these stats that we don't see. But even if its true that discrimination is the cause, at least you can't blame it on the white man or the system. The white man is a victim too. And the system isn't to blame. Maybe the system could use improvement but its not the direct reason. Judges, not the system, discriminate in sentencing.
 
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Maybe no one is taking it. There could be reasons for these stats that we don't see. But even if its true that discrimination is the cause, at least you can't blame it on the white man or the system. The white man is a victim too. And the system isn't to blame. Maybe the system could use improvement but its not the direct reason. Judges, not the system, discriminate in sentencing.
I see.
Whatever causes these disparities in the “Justice” that is meted out, we can first reject the notion that “the problem” stems from racism.
Charming.
 
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I see.
Whatever causes these disparities in the “Justice” that is meted out, we can first reject the notion that “the problem” stems from racism.
Charming.
How about this. Stop doing crime.
 
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Letting brown people pick your vegetable decade after decade but not giving them path to citizenship is systemic racism.

Ummm.... we don't want those brown people picking our vegetables. We want them all to be shipped back home. Then come here legally with a green card and/or apy for citizenship. Then they can come here and do whatever. Pick vegetables, become an accountant, be a CEO. Doesn't really matter. Just be here legally.

They shouldn't be here in legally picking our vegetables. That goes for anyone, including Canadians.
 
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Have you seen any administration go after businesses who hire illegal immigrants? No , because Republican or Democrat , no matter which administration in power, they don’t want pound of potato at grocery store cost $11, so they look the other way. Americans wants cheap labor – this is in American history, this is how America was built, first it was black slaves in cotton field , then Chinses migrant to build railroad , back then too politician didn’t want to give legal status to chines migrant , and last 40 years it’s the brown people who pick avocado and we don’t want to give them legal status.

We are in FULL agreement on the administration issues. No administration has gone after businesses who hire illegals. Congress has done NOTHING as well.

No the illegals should not be given legal status.

They CHOSE to come here illegally. They were nothing like the slaves who were seized by their own people and sold to others, forced to come here.
 
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We are in FULL agreement on the administration issues. No administration has gone after businesses who hire illegals. Congress has done NOTHING as well.

No the illegals should not be given legal status.

They CHOSE to come here illegally. They were nothing like the slaves who were seized by their own people and sold to others, forced to come here.
But they are brown. White man bad.
 
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Am I to assume you think that the really well-known graph comparing median household incomes means that blacks are somehow overall on average inferior?

You can't look at this graph and NOT see systemic racism unless you think blacks are on average somehow inferior.

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So by all means SAY OUT LOUD WHAT YOU THINK. Please. WHY are blacks and hispanics so much lower on median household income (MEDIAN, not mean...which means that extremes are less of a leverage point).

It's because they are not pursuing the jobs that pay more. It's a simple as that. When you look at the pay they get for equal jobs they get paid the same amount of money. When you account for even skills and even education they earn the same for the same job. A white teacher in an inner city school earns the same as a black teacher. A black teacher in a better public school system earns the same as a white teacher.

Blacks are not being kept out of the education. They can go to college like everyone else. The truth is, even when they do, they by and large choose careers that pay less. Even in the engineering sectors. They choose the engineering degrees that pay less than others.

It's not that difficult to understand. IT IS NOT STYSTEMIC.
 
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