Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

[SilverBear]

Thats true. Not all blacks or whites commit crime. The stats are about criminal demographics.

and those demographics show that the root cause of crime is poverty not skin color

 

[Astrid]

if there was no systemic racism then the income level of blacks would be no different from the income level of whites across the board rather than what we see in reality.

why ask for evidence if you are unwilling to look at it?

See if these income charts match the systemic racism explanation.
List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

 

[IWalkAlone]

and those demographics show that the root cause of crime is poverty not skin color

Never said skin color was a root cause. I simply stated a statistical fact.

 

[IWalkAlone]

See if these income charts match the systemic racism explanation.
List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

Asians are doing better that whites. They serve less time and get paid more. That's systemic racism against whites.

 

[Astrid]

Asians are doing better that whites. They serve less time and get paid more. That's systemic racism against whites.

its everywhere you choose to see it.
Did you guess the secret of success in America?
Its not the government helping. Or whining and blaming.
Why do you suppose Asians do well?
Also Iranians and Jews, among others.
Any idea?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

So whites are victims of systemic racism too? Is that what the stats show?

What does this have to do with my question?

 

[Astrid]

What does this have to do with my question?

Being a victim is groovy. It gives one the moral high ground, for no effort.

 

[IWalkAlone]

its everywhere you choose to see it.
Did you guess the secret of success in America?
Its not the government helping. Or whining and blaming.
Why do you suppose Asians do well?
Also Iranians and Jews, among others.
Any idea?

values maybe

 

[IWalkAlone]

What does this have to do with my question?

Why is the system racist against whites?

 

[Astrid]

values maybe

In a word, sure. Values in action.
I knew some black kids at uni in the usa.
Smart? Good students, focused, terrific people.
Really changed my Hollywood impression.

But there's not many like that. So much brains and talent and happiness
just thrown in the garbage coz of wrong story, wrong values.

 

[Astrid]

Why is the system racist against whites?

It isnt.
But it doesnt reward whiners.

 

[IWalkAlone]

It isnt.
But it doesnt reward whiners.

Yes it was sarcasm. My point was that if blacks are oppressed then so are whites.

 

[Astrid]

Yes it was sarcasm. My point was that if blacks are oppressed then so are whites.

Well, I dont know enough about America for a realistic opinion.
I think anyone with a good mind can make it there.

I think a woman anywhere is up against more than a black man in the usa.
But thats just my opinion.

 

[IWalkAlone]

Well, I dont know enough about America for a realistic opinion.
I think anyone with a good mind can make it there.

I think a woman anywhere is up against more than a black man in the usa.
But thats just my opinion.

I was talking about stats. White folks are systemically oppressed too.

 

[Astrid]

I was talking about stats. White folks are systemically oppressed too.

If you ssy so, I will accept it.

Just seems like people should just get on with life, take advantage.

Maybe go work on a rice farm in Cambodia
for a year or two, till how good it is in the usa comes clear.

 

[IWalkAlone]

If you ssy so, I will accept it.

Just seems like people should just get on with life, take advantage.

Maybe go work on a rice farm in Cambodia
for a year or two, till how good it is in the usa comes clear.

I agree.

 

[IWalkAlone]

Immigrants would love to be american.

 

[RDKirk]

If it were true that blacks commit more crime then this would be true for blacks at every socioeconomic level but high income African Americans do not commit more crimes than high income white Americans. It's poverty not skin color that leads to a higher chance of criminal activity

It's not simply poverty either, because only a small proportion of the poor commit crime. It's the dysfunctional slave culture that black people still need to break out of. Many do, but more need to be encouraged to do so. But I'm worried about that.

 

[RDKirk]

System / culture / social mores / power structure whatever all you want to call it.

Chinatown set up its own system, black people set up theirs in the hood.
But you know all of that.

But remember that the culture black American descendants of slavery is not that we might have brought from Africa. Those cultures were cut out of us when we were brought to these shores. What we have now is the dysfunctional semi-Anglo-American slave culture that was inculcated into us by slaveholders and generations of slavery. We've tried to more fully adopt the Anglo-American culture since the Civil War, but were continued to be held back by Jim Crow until just a relatively few years ago--when I became a young man. The most practicalble future we have now is to fully adopt Anglo-American culture, and for the first time it appears that the dominant Anglo-American culture is prepared to let that happen. At least the Z generation and perhaps Millennials will let that happen. I believe Boomers will have to die first...both white and black Boomers will have to die first.

The Chinese, like other voluntary immigrants, brought a functional native culture with them.

 

[Astrid]

But remember that the culture black American descendants of slavery is not that we might have brought from Africa. Those cultures were cut out of us when we were brought to these shores. What we have now is the dysfunctional semi-Anglo-American slave culture that was inculcated into us by slaveholders and generations of slavery. We've tried to more fully adopt the Anglo-American culture since the Civil War, but were continued to be held back by Jim Crow until just a relatively few years ago--when I became a young man. The most practicalble future we have now is to fully adopt Anglo-American culture, and for the first time it appears that the dominant Anglo-American culture is prepared to let that happen. At least the Z generation and perhaps Millennials will let that happen. I believe Boomers will have to die first...both white and black Boomers will have to die first.

The Chinese, like other voluntary immigrants, brought a functional native culture with them.

Thanks for writing that. I knew it, in a " write an essay"
sort of way but nobody ever Said it to me.
How much more face to face!
But that, I really felt it....
I so hope that SOMEDAY America is what its I think meant to
be, all this darkness left behind.

Who said it takes a bright light to cast such a dark shadow?