Moon it's own source of light

Does the moon give it's own light?

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Paul4JC

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I like a lot of Rob's videos that he made, but in this one at the start where he is showing the moon up in the sky and comparing the shadow to the sun.

He miss understands The creation of God. He is taking his view point and that is, that the sun is setting on the horizon. And that the angel of the setting sun does not match the moon's shadow angel.

He fails to understand that the sun actually never sets and stays the same height as it moves over the earth. So a person from their position on earth can not say because of what they are seeing that the sun is not at the right position for the light to light the moon.

I believe the suns light never lights the moon, because as the Bible states the sun was created to give light up on the earth, as also was the moon and stars.

I believe the sun and moon to be to two convex disc shaped lights. that face straight down, parallel to the earths surface. So there is no way the suns light, could light the surface of the moon.

The moon is just below the sun as eclipses could possibility show that to be the case as the moon covers the sun.
.....Sure this is a early one from 2016 when he first started to grasp 3-Tier Cosmology and FE stuff. I can't tell the angels (or angles) too, but thankfully many are on our side.
 
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This would only make any sense if the sun actually revolves around the earth. Is that what you guys actually believe?

If not, do you really not understand that where we see the sun from our perspective - in relation to the horizon created by the turning of the earth - has nothing at all to do with where the sun actually is in relation to the moon.

I can see more clearly how these notions come about though. One mistaken belief leaves a person having to explain away why the evidence doesn’t match their idea, in the case a stationary earth, which leads to the next mistaken idea, and so on. Pretty soon you have a whole edifice of self-supporting nonsense that has no actual bearing on anything real.

Are you familiar with Rob Skiba's teachings? I don't agree with them all, but many, especially 3-Tier Cosmology, I do (since three years ago when I started examining Scripture on the matter). Do you know who he was? That he grew up dreaming of and wanting to be an astronaut? That at 18 joined the army and flew helicopters for 7 years towards the same goal? That he was totally sold out to NASA, the space program, and science? He himself said that he was once a NASA fanboy. Only in 2015 did he start looking into FE, more accurately 3-Tier Cosmology, and became one of its top advocates. Primarily basing this on the Bible. It was that striving for Biblical truth that drew me to him.

The FIRMament and the Importance of Biblical Cosmology.

A well known Christian scholar, Dr. Michael Heiser [graduate of the University of Pennsylvania (M.A., Ancient History) and the University of Wisconsin- Madison (M.A., Ph.D., Hebrew Bible and Semitic Studies).] shows that the Bible teaches 3-Tier Cosmology, though he himself embraces the doctrine of accommodation which probably comes from Calvanism (which is another "can of worms").

Ancient Israelite Cosmology - Dr. Michael Heiser
 
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Not about the moon, but it does show in a limited way how the lights (stars) in the raqia would work if there was less or no light pollution. As the stars and moon were created by God to give light upon the earth at night.

Also some of the fast moving light streaks may be a plane, but many of the faster light streaks are what is know as shooting stars. What i actually believe they may be are angels flying around the earth. Just look at all the moving lights in the raqia.

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Amen! (my edit, your scripture quotes)

Even the Lord Jesus said, [Mat 24:29 NIV] "Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

[Psa 104:19 NIV] He made the moon to mark the seasons, and the sun knows when to go down.

[Psa 148:3 NIV] Praise him, sun and moon; praise him, all you shining stars.

[Sng 6:10 NIV] Friends: Who is this that appears like the dawn, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, majestic as the stars in procession?

[1Co 15:41 NIV] The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

[Rev 21:23 NIV] The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

But people at this sight want to redefine and re-apply what scripture says (and interpret where no interpretation is needed), and the shallowness of people's views and the spirit of mockery at this place keeps this in Conspiracy Theories. I think Atheists can speak more freely at this site than certain bible believers who don't hold their popular views. So what's the real conspiracy theory?

the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;

Exactly.
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Experiment - Mystery of the Moon


Whoa, that's actually using science. I'm impressed. Now, don't tell d taylor, because he hates science. We'd have to come up with some kind of complicated optics explanation to deal with this, and who has time for that. I might point out though that this is hardly new information. Others have been talking about it for years, and trying to come up with nutty answers, like this:

visible light - Why does moonlight have a lower color temperature? - Physics Stack Exchange

We just try to keep it low profile so people won't notice.
 
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Whoa, that's actually using science. I'm impressed. Now, don't tell d taylor, because he hates science. We'd have to come up with some kind of complicated optics explanation to deal with this, and who has time for that. I might point out though that this is hardly new information. Others have been talking about it for years, and trying to come up with nutty answers, like this:

visible light - Why does moonlight have a lower color temperature? - Physics Stack Exchange

We just try to keep it low profile so people won't notice.

Color exists purely in the mind
 
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This morning....
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Here is this area, that i have said a few times is an example of light being emitted from the moon surface.

In this impression area in the first photo the shafts of light can been seen coming out of this impression area.

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In the second photo the change of the light being emitted can be seen, as this area moves closer to being unlit. The shafts of light are lesser in their output.

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God tells people who read The Bible, about His creation and that He created lights and placed them in the raqia to give light on the earth.

God does this two times, but yet many just simply ignore this and listens to and believes the lies of science.

and let them be for lights in the raqia of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so.

God set them in the raqia of the heavens to give light on the earth,

To give light on The Earth. They do not light up each other they simply give light to the earth.
That is why when the sun and even the moon is seen from high altitude balloons. It is dark behind these light because their light is being directed toward the earth only and not in every direction.
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It is dark behind these light because their light is being directed toward the earth only and not in every direction.

Oh, right. Because if they shined into empty space, then empty space would be all lit up, right? Wow, you got us there.
 
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7 who made the great lights-- His love endures forever.

8 the sun to govern the day, His love endures forever.

9 the moon and stars to govern the night; His love endures forever. [Psa 136:7-9 NIV]
 
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Ok so i am not sure how many times i have heard that the iss reflects the suns light and that is how the iss is see in the sky.

So hear are comparison photos of a plane reflecting the suns light and photos of the iss at night.

It can be easily seen that the reflected light of the sun from the plane, differs from the light being given off from the iss. Which is nothing but a bright light turned on and off on the iss plane or what ever it is.

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Shines bright right up to the very edge...which would be perpendicular to the sun's rays at half moon... right?
It fades at the edge, which is what we would expect if it reflected light. You can also see shadows in the craters. That is also something that we would only expect to see if it reflected light. Check out the above photograph.

Thanks @Paul4JC .
 
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It embarasses me given that we have so many well educated Christians on this site that more of us aren’t helping our atheist friends to debunk these errors. @Subduction Zone @Yttrium please just know that I am a Christian clergyman, and I staunchly reject the unscientific notion that the visible light from the moon is anything other than a reflection of the Sun, I support NASA and have always looked up to Aldrin, Armstrong (memory eternal) and Collins (memory eternal) and the Mercury Seven (memory eternal) as personal heroes, I regard belief in a flat earth as a bewildering social phenomenon that indicates the need for increased investment in education in North America and Britain (it is not solely a US problem given the number of “guests” on SciManDan from Canada, and also that flat earth chap in British Columbia, and those from the UK), and I enthusiastically accept and embrace general relativity and quantum mechanics.*

*I do wish it were possible however to easily build something like Warp Drive from Star Trek so we could go touring the cosmos without having to deal with time dilation, but alas, thems the breaks, as they say.
 
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