Is the Earth Flat?

[BeyondET]

I will ask you a question. So science states that the moon is a sphere made out of rock, far out in space and is lit by the suns light.

So that means the moon is always in the full moon phase. So when we see a full moon the light is really bright (not as bright as the sun but still really bright)

Photo example

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So as can be seen in the photo examples above
the full moon emits light all around the entire circular edge.

But that full circular lighted edge is not present when the moon is in a crescent moon phase but it should be. Because as i stated, according to science the moon is always in a full moon phase.

So where is the missing light from the full moon that is on the other side of this crescent moon photo below. As bright as a full moon is, surely the light all around the moon would easily be seen as it is just on the other side of this crescent moon. But no light is seen
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The moon is tidally locked with earth, that is why you only see one side,

The photo of the red moon is cool, the moon passes into the Earth's shadow turns a deep red from anywhere between 5 minutes and an hour or so.


https://www.quora.com/How-do-Flat-E...-Moon-or-a-Full-Moon-happen-according-to-them

 

[coffee4u]

God gave this verse stating the earth (land) is a circle or circular in shape. And again one needs to understand earth in The Bible does not mean planet, earth means land.

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

I know the verse well, it is poetry. Poetry can be used as a supporting verse but it cannot be the foundation because it can be taken various ways. The wording is not literal.
A circle can be flat yes, but a sphere also looks like a circle when looked at from a bit of a distance. This same passage then goes on to say we are like grasshoppers, which means we are small and insignificant not literal grasshoppers. Is the heaven really a giant curtain or a tent? No.

The most that can be taken from this is that the world is not a cube or some other angular shape but is round in some way, be that a sphere, flat or something similar.
There is no plain speaking verse saying the world is a flat disk. All the verses ever shown to support the flat world are similar poetry and symbolism.
That tells me right away it is not something clearly taught in scripture but is subjective.

You need to accept that other people can read the same verses and come up with a different conclusion and not because we are ignoring or tossing scripture aside. We are both creationists, lets focus more on what we have in common rather then what divides. Its hard enough with so many evolutionists and theistic evolutionists, to have spats between those of us who do understand how important creation and no death before sin is.

 

[d taylor]

I know the verse well, it is poetry. Poetry can be used as a supporting verse but it cannot be the foundation because it can be taken various ways. The wording is not literal.
A circle can be flat yes, but a sphere also looks like a circle when looked at from a bit of a distance. This same passage then goes on to say we are like grasshoppers, which means we are small and insignificant not literal grasshoppers. Is the heaven really a giant curtain or a tent? No.

The most that can be taken from this is that the world is not a cube or some other angular shape but is round in some way, be that a sphere, flat or something similar.
There is no plain speaking verse saying the world is a flat disk. All the verses ever shown to support the flat world are similar poetry and symbolism.
That tells me right away it is not something clearly taught in scripture but is subjective.

You need to accept that other people can read the same verses and come up with a different conclusion and not because we are ignoring or tossing scripture aside. We are both creationists, lets focus more on what we have in common rather then what divides. Its hard enough with so many evolutionists and theistic evolutionists, to have spats between those of us who do understand how important creation and no death before sin is.

For some reason your are not understanding what i am saying, i will try one more time.

Earth in the Bible means land. A science created earth globe contains water and land. So when you say something like but a sphere also looks like a circle when looked at from a bit of a distance.

You are adding into The Bible, the idea that earth means a globe (water and land) sphere. But not one time can earth be found to be used in the Bible that way. It simply means land.

Just accept that you are letting science influence your reading of The Bible in many areas of creation.

 

[Tom 1]

Do you believe the Earth is flat? If so, to what degree do you believe the Earth is flat?

My yard isn't flat enough. Always have to fiddle about to get a table to stand straight. Flat would be good though, ploughing on slopes gives me the heebie jeebies.

 

[Tom 1]

Just accept

This is what people say when they can't argue their point.

 

[d taylor]

The moon is tidally locked with earth, that is why you only see one side,

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The photo of the red moon is cool, the moon passes into the Earth's shadow turns a deep red from anywhere between 5 minutes and an hour or so.

I am not asking why do you see just one side. I am sure my question was easy to understand. I am guessing you just do not have an answer as to.

Why when the moon is in a crescent stage the light from the full moon still can not be seen. Being that this full moon is just on the other side of the crescent moon.

Like in this illustrated example below, why does a crescent moon not look like this.

But instead a crescent moon looks like this photo below.

 

[coffee4u]

For some reason your are not understanding what i am saying, i will try one more time.

Earth in the Bible means land.

I have not looked that up but I will take your word on it for the moment.

A science created earth globe contains water and land. So when you say something like but a sphere also looks like a circle when looked at from a bit of a distance.

You are adding into The Bible, the idea that earth means a globe (water and land) sphere.

I never said that the word earth in the Bible means a globe. Maybe someone else said that but it wasn't me. I have continually said scripture does not teach flat or globe earth. I must have said that at least a dozen times or more on these same type of threads.

The word circle here is being used in a piece of poetry as are the words grasshopper, curtain and tent.

I am saying a ball, like a rubber squeeze ball for stress (that I may require after visiting CF) when held at arms length (try it) looks like a circle. So no, scripture doesn't teach a sphere, but it doesn't teach flat round disk either.

But not one time can earth be found to be used in the Bible that way. It simply means land.

I fail to see your point. I have never once argued about the meaning of the word earth.

Just accept that you are letting science influence your reading of The Bible in many areas of creation.

There is nothing in the creation account about a flat disk shaped world. You keep claiming it does and yet I have yet to be shown a verse where God says this.
Scripture does not teach about the shape of the world/land/earth/potato/whatever you want to call it.

 

[BeyondET]

I am not asking why do you see just one side. I am sure my question was easy to understand. I am guessing you just do not have an answer as to.

Why when the moon is in a crescent stage the light from the full moon still can not be seen. Being that this full moon is just on the other side of the crescent moon.

Like in this illustrated example below, why does a crescent moon not look like this.

But instead a crescent moon looks like this photo below.

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Yes you can see a half fully lit moon, because it is a sphere.

all planets and moons are half fully lit at any given time.

No planet or moon can be fully lit at once by the sun.

As far as the crescent, the human eye prospective changes depending on its location around the earth. the moon is a separate body in space moving around the earth.

 

[d taylor]

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Yes you can see a half fully lit moon, because it is a sphere.

all planets and moons are half fully lit at any given time.

No planet or moon can be fully lit at once by the sun.

As far as the crescent, the human eye prospective changes depending on its location around the earth. the moon is a separate body in space moving around the earth.

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If the moon is a sphere.

Why is the light absent, on this full moon in the photo below.

 

[BeyondET]

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If the moon is a sphere.

Why is the light absent, on this full moon in the photo below.

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because light does not bend, light rays can reflect or illuminate a object but rays do not bend around a object in front of the source, especially a sphere ball.

when you look up at the moon, you are not actually looking up but looking out at the moon

 

[d taylor]

because light does not bend, light rays can reflect or illuminate a object but rays do not bend around a object in front of the source, especially a sphere ball.

when you look up at the moon, you are not actually looking up but looking out at the moon

I am not asking about bending light, light would not have to bend to be seen. A moon in the crescent phase as i have posted would be reflecting light from all sides into the sky. Meaning the light should be seen lighting up the sky behind the moon. But it is not, because as The Bible states, the moon is a created light to give light on the earth.

 

[BeyondET]

I am not asking about bending light, light would not have to bend to be seen. A moon in the crescent phase as i have posted would be reflecting light from all sides into the sky. Meaning the light should be seen lighting up the sky behind the moon. But it is not, because as The Bible states, the moon is a created light to give light on the earth.

light doesn't bend so there is nothing to say on that.

space behind the moon is wide open, there is no object behind the moon to illuminate. you cannot see light rays unless it is hitting a object or from the source and seen through the eyes.
the dome is a magnetic dome, the expanse is open wide open.

the moon is lit up by the sun, the great light and the lesser light from it.

 

[d taylor]

light doesn't bend so there is nothing to say on that.

space behind the moon is wide open, there is no object behind the moon to illuminate. you cannot see light rays unless it is hitting a object or from the source and seen through the eyes.
the dome is a magnetic dome, the expanse is open wide open.

the moon is lit up by the sun, the great light and the lesser light from it.

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Well the back and forth will now end on my part as, had enough of the science misinformation about God's creation. Kind like eating mud only can take so much.

 

[BeyondET]

Well the back and forth will now end on my part as, had enough of the science misinformation about God's creation. Kind like eating mud only can take so much.

the flat earth model has a lot of flaws, like what i mentioned, you cannot have 12 hours of day and 12 hours of night all year long on the equator and everywhere else it changes up to north and down to the south poles the most extreme parts of earth that get little sun light because of earth tilt.

there hours of day that changes isn't science but from observation.

 

[coffee4u]

Just accept that you are letting science influence your reading of The Bible in many areas of creation.

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To me that looks like a sphere and it also looks like that sometimes when I look at it with my own eye.
Science -not needed. Unless you want to call my observation with my own two eyes, science.

 

[BeyondET]

To me that looks like a sphere and it also looks like that sometimes when I look at it with my own eye.
Science -not needed. Unless you want to call my observation with my own two eyes, science.

indeed and it clearly is illuminated by another light source

 

[JulieB67]

had enough of the science misinformation about God's creation.

But to really believe the earth is flat would be to believe that the the entire space program from all countries would be in on this HUGE conspiracy. And you're saying every little kid that dreams of being an astronaut and going to space and achieving that dream is in on it as well. That's just not possible. Something would have come out by now by someone.

There are two words in the Hebrew for the word earth,

Hebrew 127 adamah, which is your basic word for land -country earth, ground, husband, land.

This is not the same word used in Genesis 1,


Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

The word for earth in this verse is

Hebrew 776 -'erets, the earth (at large or partively, a land), common, country, field, ground, land, x nations, way, +wilderness, world.

If God simply wanted to imply land in Genesis 1, I why use 776 instead of 127 which basically means land?

 

[Lost4words]

Star Trek's William Shatner blasts into space on Blue Origin rocket

Captain kirk.....William Shatner said;

"I shall be entranced by the view of space. I want to look at that orb and appreciate its beauty and its tenacity."

Flat earth believers are hurriedly washing egg off of their faces!!

 

[JulieB67]

"I shall be entranced by the view of space. I want to look at that orb and appreciate its beauty and its tenacity."

I watched this and even though he's an actor I don't think he was faking any of that emotion and what he described as the separation of the earth and space.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Star Trek's William Shatner blasts into space on Blue Origin rocket

Captain kirk.....William Shatner said;

"I shall be entranced by the view of space. I want to look at that orb and appreciate its beauty and its tenacity."

Flat earth believers are hurriedly washing egg off of their faces!!

Capt. Kirk never lies, because he's a Vulcan.