Ladies, Does How You Dress Cause Men to Lust?

[Aabbie James]

Bible Study: How to Fight Against Lust and Sexual Sin (Video, MP3, and PDF)

If you walk in the Spirit, you will not walk in the flesh... This is the question of the Christian life--we don't have any power on our own, it's only in the Spirit of God.

"And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." Galatians 5:24

 

[NBB]

It seems this is a 'touchy' topic for some, still i don't agree always with this site but i think this is spot on:
What does it mean to dress modestly? | GotQuestions.org

 

[ReesePiece23]

To be honest, men over a certain age should be able to manage their own thoughts and conduct themselves with common sense regardless of the 'outfit'.

I had some squiffy girl wearing next to nothing (what was her age? Don't know - assume under) approach me on the train asking for my number and I quite brutally turned her away. Seriously, how stupid can you be? I could have been anybody.

Who's teaching these kids to approach random people for contact details? That's what I find even more worrying. Aren't parents educating their children nowadays?

Anyway, that had nothing to do with my Christianity, it had everything to do with what I HOPE most thirty year olds would do. Hopefully my brutal shutdown will live long in the memory and will knock her confidence a bit (in all of the RIGHT ways.)

 

[GospelS]

We are the personnel...under The Fire Chief.

Why then do we try to fight it?

Remember Genesis 3:15.

 

[TheWhat?]

Bible Study: How to Fight Against Lust and Sexual Sin (Video, MP3, and PDF)

If you walk in the Spirit, you will not walk in the flesh... This is the question of the Christian life--we don't have any power on our own, it's only in the Spirit of God.

"And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." Galatians 5:24

This has to be balanced out with Romans 1, though, to get at the mind of Paul. I sincerely do not think Paul intends to encourage us to think that we literally have to be crucified by a pack of anti-christians or to emulate that, to be Christ's (granted, it could happen). If we have the Spirit we're not in the flesh (Romans 8:9), but that doesn't imply an abandonment of the "natural use" of the opposite sex (Romans 1), we don't stop living, we don't stop eating, etc., and the Spirit of God is not the spirit of coveting one's neighbor's wife or husband.

 

[TheWhat?]

Paul expects us to know and understand the teaching of scripture, for salvation, as does James:

[2Ti 3:14-15 NKJV] 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned [them], 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

And to them, at that time, the LXX & OT were the holy scriptures.

 

[TheWhat?]

Back to Galatians, as for receiving the Spirit, Paul says:

[Gal 3:2 NKJV] 2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

This may seem abstract, but remember the parable of the sower: the Word of God must be sown into our hearts. Therefore, to properly crucify the flesh, which is an ambiguous concept to begin with, in the mind of Paul it seems to me one has to appeal to the inspired word on the subject, which will teach us how to properly behave toward others and allow that to change us inwardly, but that scripture doesn't annihilate heterosexuality, obviously.

 

[bèlla]

When we were little my father reviewed our report cards. He'd sit us down and go over every line item by item. Good grades weren't enough. He considered the whole and addressed infractions. He required us to explain the reason we received the check marks. As we did, he corrected our mistakes and pinpointed the effects of our behavior.

Disobedience never remained in its container. It always spilled out and appeared in other places. You could see the pattern on the paper. It beget other problems. He'd remind us, if you were doing what you were supposed to, this wouldn't have happened. He didn't give us a pass or accept Johnny did this or that. He said that's why you have a teacher. Tell them and let them handle it. You stay in your place.

He'd end the review with an important reminder. Just because you didn't get caught doesn't mean you got away with anything. It shows up sooner or later.

In like fashion, lust is already there. Lusting after someone is the physical manifestation of its presence. He responds because its inside of him. As @ReesePiece23 demonstrated in his example, non response is easy when you don't keep company with it.

Lust is a psychological force producing intense desire for an object, or circumstance.

It isn't limited to a woman's attire. It's unbridled want.

 

[ChildofGod777777]

This one is coming from personal experience. I’m 16 and I had intercourse with a female I had just met. Leading up to that point I was trying my best to stay away from things like inappropriate content and other things that would trigger lustful behavior. The female had already done it before in the past but I had never when it came to it I lost all of my self control and it was like I became a beast I could barely utter a word and we had intercourse I didn’t even think of a condom or anything. After that my heart was racing I didn’t even enjoy the experience and I was filled with anxiety and so many thoughts came to me. “What would I do if she was pregnant “ “I have no dollar to my name” “ my parent’s are gonna kill me”. All of this for probably not even 20 seconds of gratification the female has yet to contact me but she agreed to take a plan b. This weight on my chest is changing me and I’m praying as much as I can for forgiveness and more self control. My advice to all my fellow Christians is to wait til marriage nothing good can come from premarital sex even if you do use condoms please be wiser than me and don’t throw away your lives and futures im begging you

 

[TheWhat?]

Lust is a psychological force producing intense desire for an object, or circumstance.

Freedom of religion, anybody? Well if there is none, I'm pretty good at decimating false ideas.

Lust can have its own definition in another religion, world view, or understanding apart from christianity.

What's translated as "lust" originates, as can be clearly demonstrated, from the OT scriptures, referring to the law, against covetousness.

I realize that presents special challenges for us in a culture which does not live in the same way. People are not married who would probably be expected to have been married at a young age in Hebrew culture. But altering the truth is not a solution. Creating more problems than you solve is not, nor can ever be a solution.

 

[TheWhat?]

As for what solution might work for us in this backward, evil culture, well, it's left to us.

I've in the past been able to discern when desire for even a single person would be disrespectful or undignified, and not in accord with the spirit of the law, which commands love. That to me is much better than a false understanding of morality which seeks only to inwardly castrate.

It doesn't solve all problems, though, obviously, if you encounter a single someone who wants to do things to or with you. If you're not willing to get married then maybe you just need to apply some practical wisdom and avoid trouble. But I would not try to alter your understanding of morality. Christians are not taught to have one understanding for a wednesday, and a different one for a thursday, or one view of morality for singleness and another for married life. That's simply not very intelligent, and it leads to more, and deeper immorality when you consider the remainder of Romans 1 concerning maliciousness and evil intent.

 

[bèlla]

Lust can have its own definition in another religion, world view, or understanding apart from christianity.

Words have meaning.

Lust: usually intense or unbridled sexual desire
an intense longing
to have an intense desire or need

Covet: to wish for earnestly
to desire (what belongs to another) inordinately or culpably

 

[TheWhat?]

Words have meaning.

Lust: usually intense or unbridled sexual desire
an intense longing
to have an intense desire or need

Covet: to wish for earnestly
to desire (what belongs to another) inordinately or culpably

Ok. I'm not going to stop you from following the church of Merriam-Webster. This is what my religion says:

[Exo 20:17 NKJV] 17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that [is] your neighbor's."

 

[bèlla]

Ok. I'm not going to stop you from following the church of Merriam-Webster. This is what my religion says:

Please stop responding to my posts. You've made enough accusations and negative comments. I've had my fill.

 

[TheWhat?]

[Mat 22:37-40 NKJV] 37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 "This is [the] first and great commandment. 39 "And [the] second [is] like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

 

[TheWhat?]

The stoics have a novel philosophy, which some find useful. I don't have any problem, necessarily, with anyone employing practical measures for maximizing their ability to enjoy life, I'm just not inclined to confuse it with morality from God.

 

[NBB]

This one is coming from personal experience. I’m 16 and I had intercourse with a female I had just met. Leading up to that point I was trying my best to stay away from things like inappropriate content and other things that would trigger lustful behavior. The female had already done it before in the past but I had never when it came to it I lost all of my self control and it was like I became a beast I could barely utter a word and we had intercourse I didn’t even think of a condom or anything. After that my heart was racing I didn’t even enjoy the experience and I was filled with anxiety and so many thoughts came to me. “What would I do if she was pregnant “ “I have no dollar to my name” “ my parent’s are gonna kill me”. All of this for probably not even 20 seconds of gratification the female has yet to contact me but she agreed to take a plan b. This weight on my chest is changing me and I’m praying as much as I can for forgiveness and more self control. My advice to all my fellow Christians is to wait til marriage nothing good can come from premarital sex even if you do use condoms please be wiser than me and don’t throw away your lives and futures im begging you

Welcome here, uff what a first post eh? i agree with you.

 

[NBB]

Words have meaning.

Lust: usually intense or unbridled sexual desire
an intense longing
to have an intense desire or need

Covet: to wish for earnestly
to desire (what belongs to another) inordinately or culpably

Lust in biblical terms is sinful. Its not just strong sexual desire. There are studies about this i can't be bothered to search for the link.

 

[bèlla]

Lust in biblical terms is sinful. Its not just strong sexual desire. There are studies about this i can't be bothered to search for the link.

I know what it means. I shared a recollection for the reason. Disobedience has a price. Your sin will find you out (expose you). It doesn't stay hidden.

 

[TheWhat?]

Americans, Buddhists, Hindus, Shintoists, etc, all have a morality, and their own version of "disobedience".