Nursing Home Coronavirus Deaths Top 100k

[Redwingfan9]

US nursing home capacity is 1.7 million. If at full capacity 1 out of 17 are dying of Chinese Coronavirus. Most of this is due to governmental incompetence, particularly Governors Cuomo and Whitmer who ordered Coronavirus patients dumped into nursing homes so they could spread the virus and kill the old inmates. Not smart but that's par for the course for most of these incompetent Governors.

WSJ News Exclusive | Covid-19 Deaths Top 100,000 in U.S. Long-Term Care Facilities

 

[timothyu]

Fish in a barrel

 

[Aaron_Bethlhm]

Whether any specific politic is liable or not, who knows.
Over 6000 every day die from pollution - who cares ? Who even thinks ?

When in the usa people with smallpox were brought around the Indians(Native Americans) , or even when just the blankets or clothes of people who had smallpox were given to the Native Americans....
what happened ?

If pollution is increased, and people are not warned and not prepared, what happens?
If people cannot move to someplace without pollution, what happens ?
More die. (this has been happening since 2011 specifically)

 

[loveofourlord]

Whether any specific politic is liable or not, who knows.
Over 6000 every day die from pollution - who cares ? Who even thinks ?

When in the usa people with chicken pox were brought around the Indians(Native Americans) , or even when just the blankets or clothes of people who had chicken pox were given to the Native Americans....
what happened ?

If pollution is increased, and people are not warned and not prepared, what happens?
If people cannot move to someplace without pollution, what happens ?
More die. (this has been happening since 2011 specifically)

Now if only there wans't a party that routinely tries to remove environmental protection and such and opposes climate change

 

[Redwingfan9]

Whether any specific politic is liable or not, who knows.
Over 6000 every day die from pollution - who cares ? Who even thinks ?

When in the usa people with chicken pox were brought around the Indians(Native Americans) , or even when just the blankets or clothes of people who had chicken pox were given to the Native Americans....
what happened ?

If pollution is increased, and people are not warned and not prepared, what happens?
If people cannot move to someplace without pollution, what happens ?
More die. (this has been happening since 2011 specifically)

What evidence is there that 6k die of pollution daily? That certainly isn't the case in the US. Even if true, it didn't magically start in 2011.

 

[Aaron_Bethlhm]

What evidence is there that 6k die of pollution daily? That certainly isn't the case in the US. Even if true, it didn't magically start in 2011.

It has been in the news and world's published statistics every year for much longer than the last decade.
Not magic = when the pollution of industry was allowed to go without the earlier restraints, sickness and death increased accordingly.

 

[timothyu]

Not magic = when the pollution of industry was allowed to go without the earlier restraints, sickness and death increased accordingly.

They used to cover it up by blaming it on smoking. Before the beginnings of the controls imposed in the late 60's death by pollution or industrial by-products was as acceptable as having to live a third of one's life in a coal mine if we wanted jobs or the toys we were offered. People are taught to overlook the cons while the pros of the system should be glorified. Shame shame if you are not patriotic to the system. Today we have a new system being launched by way of the great reset. Already those opposed are being mocked and called bigoted or conspiracy theorists., lol

 

[loveofourlord]

They used to cover it up by blaming it on smoking. Before the beginnings of the controls imposed in the late 60's death by pollution or industrial by-products was as acceptable as having to live a third of one's life in a coal mine if we wanted jobs or the toys we were offered. People are taught to overlook the cons while the pros of the system should be glorified. Shame shame if you are not patriotic to the system. Today we have a new system being launched by way of the great reset. Already those opposed are being mocked and called conspiracy theorists., lol

Again not like we've not had 4 years of a party in power that actively denies climate change and pollution and works to remove the safeguards.

 

[Aaron_Bethlhm]

Again not like we've not had 4 years of a party in power that actively denies climate change and pollution and works to remove the safeguards.

What party/ powers/ including world wide (not just usa,but usa here) ,
removed the pollution controls in or around 2011 ?

 

[timothyu]

Again not like we've not had 4 years of a party in power that actively denies climate change and pollution and works to remove the safeguards.

True enough, but I have to ask. Why limit yourself to one side? Are you not free enough to go after the entire system?

 

[Redwingfan9]

It has been in the news and world's published statistics every year for much longer than the last decade.
Not magic = when the pollution of industry was allowed to go without the earlier restraints, sickness and death increased accordingly.

These statistics are based on assumptions, which are subject to the bias of those producing statistics. American pollution is nothing compared to Russia and China. Curiously it is only the west that is expected to sacrifice their economies for the environment.

Beyond that, what does this have to do with 100k nursing home residents dying of Chinese Coronavirus?

 

[chevyontheriver]

When in the usa people with chicken pox were brought around the Indians(Native Americans) , or even when just the blankets or clothes of people who had chicken pox were given to the Native Americans....
what happened ?

That was smallpox.

 

[Aaron_Bethlhm]

That was smallpox.

That works. Thanks!

 

[loveofourlord]

True enough, but I have to ask. Why limit yourself to one side? Are you not free enough to go after the entire system?

Oh I dislike that the democrats are probably going to waste another 4 years without dealing with climate change, but they aren't the ones actively removing protections set by the EPA and such.

 

[seeking.IAM]

OP has the right problem but an inadequate assessment of it. My mother is 100 years old and in a long term care facility. They shut down in March 2020 to outsiders. I have not been able to see her since. Her facility has seen 16 Covid-19 deaths and 48 COVID-19 recoveries. My mother was one of the lucky ones that survived COVID-19, and at the age of 100 mind you. Her roommate died. The lady across the hall died.

• COVID did not enter her facility through .gov ordering COVID-19 patients to be dumped there.
• It did not enter the facility from family members visiting because we couldn't.
• It entered the facility because of what employees were doing or not doing in their off-duty time and then coming to work and contaminating their patients. That's the facts of it.

I run an inpatient mental health facility. Our patients were COVID-19 free March until November after a staff brought it to our house. It's pretty tough for a facility with a few hundred staff members to ensure that away from work they are wearing masks, avoiding large gatherings, physically distancing, having good hand hygiene, etc. You can be contagious before you have symptoms and then you go to work. That's the facts of it.

 

[Aaron_Bethlhm]

(personally) test one or more cleaners known to eliminate such concerns. Then it won't matter if someone gets exposed to it, whatever it is, or not.
This is unauthorized/ not policitally correct, but works, or can work, if someone finds out what works and does it. (unofficially)

 

[timothyu]

Oh I dislike that the democrats are probably going to waste another 4 years without dealing with climate change, but they aren't the ones actively removing protections set by the EPA and such.

It's funny all it took to invoke the spirit of global warming after centuries of emissions and pollution (ironically cut back decades before the great awakening by way of Gore's epiphany), was a financial crisis that needed a new industry to profit from now that the cold war was winding down. What better than those who pollute now getting rich on cleaning up their own acts.

Like I said, there is little value in taking sides when the whole system stinks. Remember, Jesus said the same thing and they killed Him for not taking sides in the games of man.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

US nursing home capacity is 1.7 million. If at full capacity 1 out of 17 are dying of Chinese Coronavirus. Most of this is due to governmental incompetence, particularly Governors Cuomo and Whitmer who ordered Coronavirus patients dumped into nursing homes so they could spread the virus and kill the old inmates. Not smart but that's par for the course for most of these incompetent Governors.

WSJ News Exclusive | Covid-19 Deaths Top 100,000 in U.S. Long-Term Care Facilities

Even before Covid-19 nursing home patients didn't live very long.
Length of Stay in Nursing Homes at the End of Life

 

[timothyu]

Pneumonia has always been called the elderly's (old man's) best friend.

 

[Redwingfan9]

Even before Covid-19 nursing home patients didn't live very long.
Length of Stay in Nursing Homes at the End of Life

The issue isn't how long they live, the issue is Democrat governors sending known Coronavirus cases to nursing homes causing many of them to wiped out.