The extreme Left really does want to abolish the police

[Quartermaine]

Thats not accurate either. We no that things can be improved upon. That's quite different than saying there is no problem. But the problem is not a major one. I don't know how many times I've heard many on the left say there is a major problem. Yet when the facts are shown to them they ignore it. Or they accuse us of saying there is NO problem at all. When we said nothing of the sort.

There are definately things that could make things better in policing. Thinks like mandatory descalation training. Union contracts that allow more leeway for departments to do something with problem employees. Mandatory body cameras.

what exactly woudl it take for you to say it was a real problem?

 

[Aldebaran]

i find no joy in showing you to be wrong

I don't share your sentiment.

and still no one is assassinating police

NYPD cops shot in the Bronx in 2 separate 'assassination' incidents, 1 suspect in custody

San Antonio Officer Ambushed, Assassinated Outside Of Police Headquarters

 

[Quartermaine]

I don't share your sentiment.

you are happy when you are shown to be wrong? Takes all kinds i guess

NYPD cops shot in the Bronx in 2 separate 'assassination' incidents, 1 suspect in custody

San Antonio Officer Ambushed, Assassinated Outside Of Police Headquarters

are we pretending these involved Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu?

 

[Aldebaran]

are we pretending these involved Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu?

Are you now pretending you didn't say,

and still no one is assassinating police

?

 

[Quartermaine]

Are you now pretending you didn't say,

?

Assassination is the act of deliberately killing or paying to have someone kill a prominent person, such as a head of state or head of government as prompted by political and military motives.


if you have evidence of the shooters being paid or were following orders of BLM i'm sure the prosecuting attorneys involved would be glad to have your evidence

 

[Aldebaran]

Assassination is the act of deliberately killing or paying to have someone kill a prominent person, such as a head of state or head of government as prompted by political and military motives.

if you have evidence of the shooters being paid or were following orders of BLM i'm sure the prosecuting attorneys involved would be glad to have your evidence

Explain that to ABC News. They're the ones reporting it as an assasination attempt. Tell them of your expertise on the subject. Or just explain to them that you are doing your best to make excuses for the perpetrators.

Meanwhile, let's take a look at what Merrian-Webster says the definition of assassinate is.

Definition of assassinate
transitive verb

1: to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons a plot to assassinate the governor
2: to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously assassinate a man's character

 

[Quartermaine]

Explain that to ABC News. They're the ones reporting it as an assasination attempt. Tell them of your expertise on the subject. Or just explain to them that you are doing your best to make excuses for the perpetrators.

Meanwhile, let's take a look at what Merrian-Webster says the definition of assassinate is.

Definition of assassinate
transitive verb

1: to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons a plot to assassinate the governor
2: to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously assassinate a man's character

again if you have evidence regarding the motives behind these homicides you should contact the prosecuting attorney's dealing with the cases.


That aside. Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were not assassinated by BLM and no one tried to block the ambulance taking them to the hospital and no crowds were cheering their deaths.

 

[rjs330]

what exactly woudl it take for you to say it was a real problem?

Do you believe that less than .1% of arrests lead to excessive force a problem? How about a less than .1% of shootings to be unjustified. Is that a real problem?

What percentage of anything is a real problem to you?

 

[rjs330]

again if you have evidence regarding the motives behind these homicides you should contact the prosecuting attorney's dealing with the cases.


That aside. Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were not assassinated by BLM and no one tried to block the ambulance taking them to the hospital and no crowds were cheering their deaths.

You are nitpicking some details here. A man tried to assassinate two officers in California. BLM supporters congregated out side the ER where they were taken. The shouted about hoping the officers died and we're hindering the ambulance. There is a great article in the Sun that has video and everything. I can't link to it due to the highly offensive material and language involved. I do t want to break the rules. So maybe Ramos wasn't one of those situations involving BLM supporters, but the California incident certainly did.

In another her case and officer Was allowed to sue BLM activist for injuries during a protest. I don't know what's going to come if that, but it's time BLM supporters recognize that what they do to cause injuries has consequences. Just like the cops.

 

[Quartermaine]

Do you believe that less than .1% of arrests lead to excessive force a problem? How about a less than .1% of shootings to be unjustified. Is that a real problem?

What percentage of anything is a real problem to you?

can you substantiate your numbers?

 

[Quartermaine]

You are nitpicking some details here.

false claims that two separate incident were one and that either shows that BLM is assassinating police is not a nitpicky detail.

A man tried to assassinate two officers in California.

if you know the identity of the shooter and have evidence of his/her motivation then you should be contacting the authorities

BLM supporters congregated out side the ER where they were taken. The shouted about hoping the officers died and we're hindering the ambulance.

Can you back up the claim that the ambulance taking the officers to the hospital was hindered by anyone?

The video of the supposed BLM supported shows 4 men who weren't blocking anything acting like idiots. They didn't identify as members of BLM or indicate any affiliation.

Here is a fact checking of the California shooting

 

[rjs330]

can you substantiate your numbers?

Yes I can and have done so numerous times. Search my posts and you will find the links there.

 

[rjs330]

false claims that two separate incident were one and that either shows that BLM is assassinating police is not a nitpicky detail.

if you know the identity of the shooter and have evidence of his/her motivation then you should be contacting the authorities

Can you back up the claim that the ambulance taking the officers to the hospital was hindered by anyone?

The video of the supposed BLM supported shows 4 men who weren't blocking anything acting like idiots. They didn't identify as members of BLM or indicate any affiliation.

Here is a fact checking of the California shooting

I don't think we have any evidence that BLM supporters are assassinating police. But BLM supporters HAVE called for the deaths of police.

If you look at the article in the Sun there is plenty of evidence there of BLM supporters causing problems. They police pushed them back so they wouldn't be in the way, but they sure were cheering on for the deaths of the officers. This is what some BLM supporters do. You and BLM may try and distance yourself from this stuff, but it's not going to work. There have been plenty of BLM supporters calling for the death or injuries to police. These guys in California may not have been specific, members of BLM organization. But I bet they are a supporter of them. Their rhetoric is very similar to BLM supporter rhetoric that I have seen. It's not far different.

 

[Aldebaran]

again if you have evidence regarding the motives behind these homicides you should contact the prosecuting attorney's dealing with the cases.

You're the one who seems to have evidence since you say with such confidence that their motives weren't anything that fits with the definition of assassinate. If you know, then tell us what their murderous intent was.

 

[Aldebaran]

f
The video of the supposed BLM supported shows 4 men who weren't blocking anything acting like idiots. They didn't identify as members of BLM or indicate any affiliation.

Acting like idiots (and violent thugs) has been their modus operandi. That's all it takes to "identify" themselves as to who they're with.

BTW, it's nice that you're finally acknowledging that BLM has a membership, and isn't just a movement or idea.

 

[Quartermaine]

You're the one who seems to have evidence since you say with such confidence that their motives weren't anything that fits with the definition of assassinate. If you know, then tell us what their murderous intent was.

how am i saying anything but i don't know what the motivation was?


or are you just feeling desperate here?

 

[Quartermaine]

Acting like idiots (and violent thugs) has been their modus operandi.

Whose?

So you know them persoanlly?

That's all it takes to "identify" themselves as to who they're with.

so they are conservatives. i see

BTW, it's nice that you're finally acknowledging that BLM has a membership, and isn't just a movement or idea.

there is still no evidence that any of the 4 men in the video are in any way associated with Black Lives Matter

 

[Quartermaine]

Yes I can and have done so numerous times. Search my posts and you will find the links there.

Sounds like a cop out.

 

[Quartermaine]

I don't think we have any evidence that BLM supporters are assassinating police. But BLM supporters HAVE called for the deaths of police.

If you look at the article in the Sun there is plenty of evidence there of BLM supporters causing problems. They police pushed them back so they wouldn't be in the way, but they sure were cheering on for the deaths of the officers.

the "mod" you claimed to be "BLM supporters congregated out side the ER where they were taken. The shouted about hoping the officers died and we're hindering the ambulance." turned out to be four guys who were not blocking or hindering anything and there is no way to identify if they are affiliated with any thing much less BLM.

This is what some BLM supporters do. You and BLM may try and distance yourself from this stuff, but it's not going to work. There have been plenty of BLM supporters calling for the death or injuries to police. These guys in California may not have been specific, members of BLM organization. But I bet they are a supporter of them. Their rhetoric is very similar to BLM supporter rhetoric that I have seen. It's not far different.

so you got nothing

 

[rjs330]

Sounds like a cop out.

Sounds like you don't want to look.