The extreme Left really does want to abolish the police

[ArmenianJohn]

I am curious. This "unorganized movement" has received billions of dollars from numerous corporations. I wonder where the money went?

Source? (Other than "I made it up")

 

[Quartermaine]

I said BLM extremists assassinated police officers.

and gave Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu as examples. They were not assassinated by BLM... no one has been.

 

[Quartermaine]

I am curious. This "unorganized movement" has received billions of dollars from numerous corporations. I wonder where the money went?

if you were actually curious you woudl take five minutes and find out first the actual amount of donations received and the accounting of those donations

 

[KCfromNC]

I don't entirely support Trump. I will not be voting for him. However, there is only one candidate who praised a KKK leader for his mentorship, worked against desegregation, blatantly nominated a token "black woman" as a pandering tool, and said i wasn't black if I had trouble deciding whether or not to vote for him. Guess what, he doesn't have my vote either.

On the one hand, we have all the far-right memes. On the other, the fact that Donald is polling terribly among minority voters. Which to believe?

 

[Aldebaran]

That’s not a response to my post. Did you look at the calendar? And why does this matter to you? Whether it’s an organization or a loosely affiliated group of many organizations? You can still condemn what they are doing and criticize them.

And I'm happy to do so. However, those who refuse to believe that BLM is actually doing any of what we all can clearly see being done are the ones who are gladly looking the other way as they throw their financial and moral support behind them.

 

[Aldebaran]

I am curious. This "unorganized movement" has received billions of dollars from numerous corporations. I wonder where the money went?

It probably went to an unorganized treasurer.

 

[HappyHope]

Well the police and the military have been stomping grounds for the neo nazis and their ilk for a while . They’ve been encouraging their members to join both in order to make it easy to abuse and kill minorities. I can understand why “defund the police “ is becoming an issue. A lot of police units are firing racists as they don’t want the chaos (and lawsuits ) they cause

The military branch I've been affiliated with for over 18 years is not how you describe. There are briefings from the onset that any kind of racism can be reported to a special group on base outside one's chain of command. They are a very powerful group. MEO is open about making sure traditional (white, Judeo-Christian)) culture does not oppress anyone.
People fear MEO. Even the implication of racism has ruined military careers. Some feel minorities get special privileges because people fear to offend them. Stuff doesn't get reported sometimes because of this. It is not just skin color but those of different religions. The Muslim Army Officer who shot up the Fort in TX had been noted for things that would have been handled before he got that bad but he was a minority.
One military guy was recently accused of racism by one of his subordinates. The man won his case by proving he equally disliked everyone. The minority subordinate was not special. Funny but sad. People are all too ready to accuse others.
The military may sway right politically in many cases but this does not mean racism or neo nazis. Well at least the Air Force is very careful not to offend. So careful that it is hard watch.

 

[Sparagmos]

I am curious. This "unorganized movement" has received billions of dollars from numerous corporations. I wonder where the money went?

How does a movement receive money and how do you know how much? Have you researched the hundreds of different organizations that participate in the movement?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

How does a movement receive money and how do you know how much? Have you researched the hundreds of different organizations that participate in the movement?

Well this "movement" has over $1.6 Billion in corporate pledges. I don't need to research hundreds of organizations. A simple Google search seems to provide more than enough info.

Black Lives Matter: Corporate America Has Pledged $1.678 Billion So Far

 

[Sparagmos]

Well this "movement" has over $1.6 Billion in corporate pledges. I don't need to research hundreds of organizations. A simple Google search seems to provide more than enough info.

Black Lives Matter: Corporate America Has Pledged $1.678 Billion So Far

Ah, cool!

 

[rjs330]

and gave Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu as examples. They were not assassinated by BLM... no one has been.

BLM is an organization. An organization doesn't really do much. It's their supporters.that do the actions. You dont have to be a card carrying member of the KKK to be a white supremacist. Or to commit atrocities.

I will state unequivocally that white supremacists over the years have killed a LOT of people.

But we are seeing a LOT of violence right now by the BLM supporters. A LOT of cops have been injured by them and billions of dollars worth of property have been destroyed by BLM supporters.

 

[rambot]

The EXTREME left does, yes

Sadly, the middle and moderate right want us to think there is no problem in policing in America.

And that is incorrect.

 

[Quartermaine]

BLM is an organization. An organization doesn't really do much. It's their supporters.that do the actions. You dont have to be a card carrying member of the KKK to be a white supremacist. Or to commit atrocities.

I will state unequivocally that white supremacists over the years have killed a LOT of people.

But we are seeing a LOT of violence right now by the BLM supporters. A LOT of cops have been injured by them and billions of dollars worth of property have been destroyed by BLM supporters.

and still no one is assassinating police

 

[Aldebaran]

and still no one is assassinating police

No, just shooting officers in the head as they sit in their squad car, and then block the ambulance carrying them from getting to the hospital, all while cheering the fact they got shot and that they hope the cops die. IOW, "peaceful protesters".

 

[Quartermaine]

No, just shooting officers in the head as they sit in their squad car, and then block the ambulance carrying them from getting to the hospital, all while cheering the fact they got shot and that they hope the cops die. IOW, "peaceful protesters".

the ambulance Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu was blocked from getting to the hospital by cheering protesters?

well no that isn't true at all. So why are you dishonoring the memory of these officers this way?

 

[Aldebaran]

the ambulance Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu was blocked from getting to the hospital by cheering protesters?

well no that isn't true at all. So why are you dishonoring the memory of these officers this way?

Here's something you can watch that will no doubt give you happiness, even though it proves you wrong:

 

[Pommer]

Here's something you can watch that will no doubt give you happiness, even though it proves you wrong:

Wait...they took the two officers (Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu) from Brooklyn NY all the way to California?

 

[Aldebaran]

Wait...they took the two officers (Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu) from Brooklyn NY all the way to California?

I just wanted to show him something that would make him happy. Don't deny him his happiness!

 

[rjs330]

The EXTREME left does, yes

Sadly, the middle and moderate right want us to think there is no problem in policing in America.

And that is incorrect.

Thats not accurate either. We no that things can be improved upon. That's quite different than saying there is no problem. But the problem is not a major one. I don't know how many times I've heard many on the left say there is a major problem. Yet when the facts are shown to them they ignore it. Or they accuse us of saying there is NO problem at all. When we said nothing of the sort.

There are definately things that could make things better in policing. Thinks like mandatory descalation training. Union contracts that allow more leeway for departments to do something with problem employees. Mandatory body cameras.

 

[Quartermaine]

Here's something you can watch that will no doubt give you happiness, even though it proves you wrong:

i find no joy in showing you to be wrong