Huge Gun-Lovers Rally on MLK Day - Not A Coincidence but By Design

[Hammster]

Where is it forbidden to be a stumbling block and to avoid appearance of evil? The scripture I provided addressed that.

How is it an appearance of evil? Let’s start with that.

 

[Hammster]

From whom? Your enemies that you're also supposed to love?

From someone intending them harm.

 

[Darkhorse]

How many people has she shot with it?

To date, none, but that may change...

She gets death threats in connection with her work.

 

[Hammster]

To date, none, but that may change...

She gets death threats in connection with her work.

She should love her enemies and just let them shoot her. Apparently.

 

[Darkhorse]

She should love her enemies and just let them shoot her. Apparently.

She does love her enemies, with the help of Jesus.

They apparently don't return the love - and she refuses to be a victim.

 

[renniks]

As a Christian, I would think you would know that everything applies to the Bible.

What. does. it. have. to. do. with. guns.

 

[renniks]

Nothing says "I love you!" like buying a gun in case you want to shoot that person! LOL

You really don't get it. People buy guns to protect their neighbors and themselves, unless those neighbors happen to have criminal intentions.
It is loving to allow your neighbor to smoke crack and participate in drive by shootings? It it loving your neighbors to look the other way as they beat up your friends?

They get irate when you attack their true gods.

The amount of anger and butt hurt from them in this thread is testimony that they are rallying to defend their true gods.

Actually, you and one other anti gun poster are the only one on the thread who seen angry and spiteful.

 

[expos4ever]

I don’t see how you don’t see. If guns are the problem, and there were thousands of guns, why were there no incidents?

Because it takes someone who is either exceedingly deranged, or otherwise motivated to kill, for there to be an incident. And, thankfully, such people are uncommon.

But the argument that the gun cannot be a major component to the problem of gun violence specifically because it is an inanimate tool is mind-bogglingly dumb.

 

[Yekcidmij]

The whole rally was a celebration of guns on the day officially deisgnated by the Federal Government to honor a Christian Black American Pastor that was killed by a gun. What part of that doesn't get through to you?

I didn't see people celebrating the assassination of MLK. Maybe you saw something I didn't, so please provide evidence.

If they had been rallying on Veterans Day or Memorial Day, I don't think I would be justified in believing they were celebrating all the people in war killed by a gun. I would think about what I do now - they were obviously lobbying for their 2nd Amendment right to bear arms on a day that was convenient (and last week conveniently coincided with a day off at the beginning of the Va Legislature's new session). Maybe if they did this and gave some additional reason to believe they were celebrating people killed by guns in war, I would believe differently. Perhaps if they were spitting on or dancing on veteran graves or something, then I would be justified in thinking they were celebrating people killed by a gun in war.

Likewise, if they were doing something to indicate they were celebrating MLK's death, then provide the reasons for believing so. The facts of carrying weapons for the stated reason of lobbying the local legislature about firearm legislation seems woefully insufficient to draw your conclusions. You require reason to connect their activity to the death of MLK, and you have provided none thus far.

I don't know why there's anything else to read into it without sufficient reason. Your conclusion is just simply unwarranted. You start from a position of assuming the worst without sufficient warrant and proceed with that assumption to reach your conclusion. Besides assuming the worst in people and lacking sufficient warrant for your conclusion, why do you decide not to start from a position of charitableness? Why are you so uncharitable toward other people?

Either you're being obtuse or you just want to stick by your irrational viewpoint no matter what.

You're the one not providing evidence for your claims. You claim the protesters (and apparently all of them to boot) in Richmond were celebrating MLK's assassination and you have yet to provide evidence for your claim. You're the one that's not being rational. Rational behavior requires sufficient reason for your claims. Apparently you think insulting people and merely repeating your position is reason - it's not.

 

[Jamesone5]

What does this have to do with the discussion? Because I have guns, I'm lawless? Doesn't compute.

I got guns too, did you not pay attention?

 

[Jamesone5]

The solution is to carry your gun with you, on your person in a manner inaccessible to children.

That way it's ready for use if needed, but they can't access it.

Why are you so afraid that you have to carry a gun?
What did Christ say about fear?

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Maybe if more people feared God this rush for more weaponry would lessen.

 

[renniks]

I got guns too, did you not pay attention?

Yeah, but I still have no idea what your point is.
You seem to be talking from both sides your mouth.

Standing up for gun rights is bad but having guns is fine.

 

[renniks]

Why are you so afraid that you have to carry a gun?
What did Christ say about fear?

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Maybe if more people feared God this rush for more weaponry would lessen.

Why do you assume to know others motives for concealed carry?
You even assumed that I carry all the time, when I never once said that I even have a permit.

 

[Jamesone5]

The verse doesn’t say anything about perceived lawlessness. Did the Spirit tell you to add to scripture?

Did you not pay attention to the whole of the verse?

Give you a little clue here with the word because

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Means something is Happening and then the effect.


Do I have to go word-for-word in a verse to tell you what Christ is saying here?

 

[Jamesone5]

Yeah, but I still have no idea what your point is.
You seem to be talking from both sides your mouth.

Standing up for gun rights is bad but having guns is fine.

Yeah, especially when these false prophets from the NRA are telling your guns will be taken away in the future if we don't supposedly stand up for those rights.
People join up with these false causes all the time. You join some of the just because your buddies do?

Do you not realize my guns are only for hunting--as it should be.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Did you not pay attention to the whole of the verse?

Give you a little clue here with the word because

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Means something is Happening and then the effect.


Do I have to go word-for-word in a verse to tell you what Christ is saying here?

Your position is patently ridiculous as Jesus is not indicating that firearm ownership is a sign of his coming. Matthew 24 isn't applicable.

24:3 As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”​

And Jesus, in his answer, apparently meant, "firearm ownership."

 

[Jamesone5]

Why do you assume to know others motives for concealed carry?
You even assumed that I carry all the time, when I never once said that I even have a permit.

OK lets see------ Wow, judge much?

and

Actually, you and one other anti gun poster are the only one on the thread who seen angry and spiteful

These from just this page
I guess us assumed anti-gun posters are assumed to be angry and spiteful and we are also assumed to be judging. Or maybe that last one is for just me. Hard to tell with all these false assumptions.

Son, you are assuming way too much.

 

[Hammster]

Because it takes someone who is either exceedingly deranged, or otherwise motivated to kill, for there to be an incident. And, thankfully, such people are uncommon.

But the argument that the gun cannot be a major component to the problem of gun violence specifically because it is an inanimate tool is mind-bogglingly dumb.

Obviously it’s the a component in gun violence. It’s right in the name. Just like cars are a major component in car accidents. But you pointed out the major component. “Someone who is either exceedingly deranged or otherwise motivated to kill”.

The rally itself shows that guns aren’t the major factor.

 

[Jamesone5]

Your position is patently ridiculous as Jesus is not indicating that firearm ownership is a sign of his coming. Matthew 24 isn't applicable.

24:3 As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”​

And Jesus, in his answer, apparently meant, "firearm ownership."

Gee, do you suppose He withheld that specific information about guns for a reason? Who would have known what a guns were---back when He walked the earth?

You seem to want you Bible exacting. What did His Disciples ask Him?

Matthew 24:3 (NKJV)
The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age
3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

Signs not guns.

 

[Hammster]

Did you not pay attention to the whole of the verse?

Give you a little clue here with the word because

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Means something is Happening and then the effect.


Do I have to go word-for-word in a verse to tell you what Christ is saying here?

I’ve been trying for hours now to get you to show verses that explain how the rally was lawless. Not perceived lawlessness. But actually lawless. And still nothing. I’d love to discuss it. But I can’t discuss what’s not there.

So specifically, what was sinful about the rally?