Where Arminianism Fails.

[HatGuy]

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[renniks]

But where does it say those who the Father draws will not come ?

Through out the Bible it is clearly shown that people resist God.

 

[Tra Phull]

Demand torsion Paul, having loved the present world. He is probably a BY example of one who fell from grace.

 

[Tra Phull]

Demas, not Demand

 

[Tra Phull]

Torsion, not torsion

 

[HatGuy]

Haha autocorrect giving you good times there

 

[Tra Phull]

I give up, this autocorrect would make my posts Calvinistic if it could...

Demas forsook Paul

 

[Tra Phull]

If AUTOCORRECT changes what I typed, was it PREDESTINATED to be what autocracy changed it to?

 

[Tra Phull]

Ananias and Saphira might be another example of "fallen from grace"

 

[Tra Phull]

Perhaps I should not even change what autocorrect changes it to, it must be God's will - is that what the Calvinistas would think anyway?

 

[royal priest]

Perhaps I should not even change what autocorrect changes it to, it must be God's will - is that what the Calvinistas would think anyway?

It was according to God's decretive will that you posted in error. But it was according to how you understood God's preceptive will that you then corrected it.

 

[Tra Phull]

The thread title asserts that Arminianism fails. It does not.

Dave also alleged that Arminians are idolatrous. They are not.

 

[-57]

Ok, so why did Adam effectively reject God? After all, we just continue in his sin of rebellion until we see the light-and reject/reverse his decision and orientation within ourselves. Man has a choice; man is a morally accountable being rather than an amoral beast who merely reacts to his environment-which is why we hold each other accountable for criminal or immoral acts-while also recognizing that, yes, our histories may well mitigate culpability.

Mn is born into a fallen state.....we are not sinners because we sin...we sin because we are sinners.

 

[Tra Phull]

Decretive and Preceptive. I see.
How many WILLS does God have, in Calvinism, and which can be resisted?

 

[-57]

ok then, so why are regenerated new persons not perfect in all the virtues? Does God not perform a completed work?

They haven't been sanctified and glorified yet.

 

[-57]

Decretive and Preceptive. I see.
How many WILLS does God have, in Calvinism, and which can be resisted?

How many nuances does will have?

 

[Tra Phull]

Adam was not born into a fallen state.
He sinned because he chose to - of his own unfallen free will

 

[-57]

Ananias and Saphira might be another example of "fallen from grace"

You can't lose your salvation...you can't be snatched from Jesus' hand.

 

[Tra Phull]

Either 136 or 142

 

[-57]

Adam was not born into a fallen state.
He sinned because he chose to - of his own unfallen free will

Yes, Adam fell into a fallen state..now all of his progeny are born fallen.