Genesis 1 is to be taken literaly - it is the only logical option

[GodLovesCats]

Remember (as just came up in another thread) about Ananias and Saphira? And Moses?

I never clicked on that thread, but the topic is not comparable to this one.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I never clicked on that thread, but the topic is not comparable to this one.

No need to read that thread. Ananias and Saphira, and Moses, is what is noted in my post. It just happened to be in another thread also, a few minutes ago or so.

 

[GodLovesCats]

What mankind DOES with the things they find is what is sinful.

Remember mankind/ society IS SINFUL. And it is soon to be destroyed by fire (not by flood).

Like Lost asked you twice earlier, if you think everything based on science is sinful, why are you online? I am sure you know science made the Internet possible.

Mankind does a lot of good things with science too, of course. Like save the lives of unhealthy people and pets.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Like Lost asked you twice earlier, if you think everything based on science is sinful, why are you online? I am sure you know science made the Internet possible.

Mankind does a lot of good things with science too, of course. Like save the lives of unhealthy people and pets.

Did Jesus use utensils ? Donkeys? Tools ?

Yahuweh set the boundaries/ the limits/ on all things including the internet, and all the sciences, just as He set the boundaries of all the oceans and seas and rivers ,
of all the hurricanes and tornadoes and winds.......

Mankind apart from Christ is "without profit", (the flesh), as written.
It is pernicious (death dealing) , as written.
It is NOT right, righteous, holy, nor serving Yahuweh.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Mankind does a lot of good things with science too, of course. Like save the lives of unhealthy people and pets.

Curious if you really believe this based on reality/ facts....
Perhaps search the internet/ AMA and CDC (official government/ science/medical) sites
and see
what the fastest rising cause of death (medicine/'science') has been ever since wwI (even by wwII !! ) ...
and is in the top three causes of death for the last few decades at least....

 

[GodLovesCats]

Yeshua, do you even think about what you are saying? Your message is this: helping other people is a sin if doing so requires scientific knowledge that does not come from Scripture.

 

[solid_core]

hmmm.

Let's examine this a little bit.

"Peer-reviewed"..... WHO does the reviewing ??

"These mechanisms" .... perhaps they are said to exlude false and deceptive "science" discoveries",
but they did not work for the last 500 years.

Why would they start working that way (better?) now ?

Of course it works - you using the computer with internet is a proof of it. Look around, the world completely changed because of science. Cars, planes, medicaments. You must live in some bubble not to see it.

 

[solid_core]

How do you know there wasn't a Leviathan? Do you even know what a Leviathan is?
Jesus said, "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.' Do you really believe he thought that the heart was where that came from?
Do you think God is a chicken?
How about a door?


There is much to be learned here.

So, do you believe Bible when it talks about solid firmanent in the sky, when it says that pi = 3, when it says that you think in your kidneys and when it says there is a Leviathan in the sea?

Yes/no.

If no, why do you force the ancient mythological creation text to be precise and literal?

Leviathan is a mythological creature that was supposed to swallow the sun and end the world.

Do you really think the Bible was trying to give the factor of pi?

No, I do not. I am consistent and say that the point of the Bible is theology, not science. You are the one who uses the Bible to teach us science.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Parable of the Wise and the Foolish Builders - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Parable_of_the_Wise_and_the_Foolish_B...
Everyone therefore who hears these words of mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man, who built his house on a rock. The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock.
====================

Most important to remember. quicksand (society) is not a solid foundation for anything.

 

[GodLovesCats]

What does that foundation have to do with the fact that evolution of all the species God created has been proven worldwide by people He made to learn about the natural world?

I wonder if yiou either do not know or intentinoally ignore the Bible passages about everything God made having a purpose, God having a plan for every person's life, and appreciating all of the things God made - in the sky, on land, and in the water.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

proven worldwide

UNproven. UNprovable. UNsubstantiated. (no scientist ever publicly I've seen who is honest claims evolution was ever proven. Thus, as always, it is still a theory (and a false one at that) ) .

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Trust God, not men. Believe God's Word is Truth, not man's words proven wrong often.

 

[GodLovesCats]

UNproven.UNprovable. UNsubstantiated. No scientist ever publicly I've seen who is honest claims evolution was ever proven. Thus, as always, it is still a theory (and a false one at that).

I am still waiting for you to proven it is unprovable and unsubstantiated when the proof is everywhere for people to see, hear, and feel.

How many scientists have you seen? Probably not a lot because you know far less about science than Brightmoon.

Trust God, not men. Believe God's Word is Truth, not man's words proven wrong often.

You are a man, so this advice is telling me not to believe yourself. I have followed that advice perfectly by not believing your totally false claims that are based on, of course, man alone. Man's words are not to be believed when they are wrong, but in the case of evolution, they are proven correct.

What don't you understand about the Bible not being a science book?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I am still waiting for you to proven it is unprovable and unsubstantiated when the proof is everywhere for people to see, hear, and feel.

That is not the definition of proof for any scientist at all "see, hear, feel".

All of that is subjective, and changeable quickly, and unreliable.

Likewise - WHO is going to "see, hear, and feel" something AND TELL THE TRUTH ALSO ?

The corrupt world ? The for profit controlled by money corporations/ or even scientists ? No.

Oh, you might find a few scientists who are willing to tell the truth. They know evolution is not even at all possible, and have already lost their jobs, or work for someone who won't fire them.

i.e. FALSE proof is no proof at all, and is as much in error as false doctrines and false teachings.

 

[GodLovesCats]

There is no such thing as false proof because proof is the known facts.

Man tells the truth when they say what the proven facts are.

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Man tells the truth when they say what the proven facts are.

Sorry, no. Men hardly ever tell the truth, especially when money ,(or power, or a job), is involved.

Especially about the false theories from fallen men or worse - they cannot even know the truth, let alone tell it.

"Proven facts" are what God Says. NOT what men say. Men are corrupt on earth.

 

[BobRyan]

How many scientists have you seen? Probably not a lot because you know far less about science than Brightmoon.

I assume that is an argument of some type in favor of evolutionism

 

[GodLovesCats]

Sorry, no. Men hardly ever tell the truth, especially when money (or power or a job) is involved.

Especially about the false theories from fallen men or worse - they cannot even know the truth, let alone tell it.

"Proven facts" are what God says. NOT what men say. Men are corrupt on earth.

So you are now admitting you are a liar yourself because you are a man, not God. If scientists can't know the truth, NEITHER CAN YOU. And in fact they DO know the truth. You don't know because you don't want to know. People who want to know actually spend a lot of time learning about this stuff from experts with college degrees in biology.

Again, what part of "the Bible is not a science book" don't you understand? I will wait for an answer to that question until I get one.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I assume that is an argument of some type in favor of evolutionism

All of my arguments favor evolutionism because I know it has been proven many times around the world. You still have not shown me a single long-term, worldwide peer-reviewed study by a big team of biology doctors that definitively disproves the existence of fossils that are millions of years older than the earliest humans.

 

[Lost4words]

To believe in evolution, one must believe that man came from apes.

I dont believe in evolution myself. I really dont see any evidence for it. Just opinions of what science 'think' happened.