Genesis 1 is to be taken literaly - it is the only logical option

[GodLovesCats]

It is a hodge-podge of false teachings all associated with each other in various ways. Not just one mistake, but many all at once, all together, opposed to Yahuweh and contrary to His Word and an enemy of the people following Jesus (actually an enemy of all people) ....

You have not proven a single thing about evolution is false teaching. The only way to prove it is prove the things that exist do not exist and the events that happened did not happen.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Where does God say in His word science cannot be proven? If you can't show me that, you are wrong.

I can only report to you what I have both seen and heard. (in line with all Scripture)
NOT what I heard from a relative that contradicts or goes against Scripture.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You have not proven a single thing about evolution is false teaching. The only way to prove it is prove the things that exist do not exist and the events that happened did not happen.

This statement itself may be enough for many to realize that it cannot be supported. In English it does not follow that anything about evolution is true just because things exist - no, that is not logical at all.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I can only report to you what I have both seen and heard. (in line with all Scripture) NOT what I heard from a relative that contradicts or goes against Scripture.

So you don't know anything that has ever been observed, tested, retested, and proven. You have no kind of science education. You have to do that to know for a fact nothing outside of Scripture is true.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So you don't know anything that has ever been observed, tested, retested, and proven. You have no kind of science education. You have to do that to know for a fact nothing outside of Scripture is true.

Instead of "do that"
I believe it is better for me to
Trust in the Heavenly Father and BELIEVE JESUS. (and as He Says, seek out those where I visit or live who are true in faith and stay with them, not with those who are not true in faith, unless necessary for some reason and God Permits this) .

p.s. who said I had no science education ? (tangent I know, but whoever said that does not know)

 

[GodLovesCats]

This statement itself may be enough for many to realize that it cannot be supported. In English it does not follow that anything about evolution is true just because things exist - no, that is not logical at all.

What scientists have discovered obviously does exist. You have been telling me none of those things exist by denying the discoveries of fossils that are hundreds of millions of years older than humans.

 

[GodLovesCats]

OR Trust in the Heavenly Father and BELIEVE JESUS.

Why do you think it is either/or?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What scientists have discovered obviously does exist. You have been telling me none of those things exist by denying the discoveries of fossils that are hundreds of millions of years older than humans.

People I've met who trust the Father in Heaven and follow Jesus instead of following earthly carnal men do not see a need to accept what earthly carnal men say about anything,
and if there ever may be a need or desire to do so, they test it first as God's Word Says to, BEFORE accepting anything said.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Why do you think it is either/or?

The Word of the Father in Heaven Says so clearly.
No one can be a friend of the world (includes manmade earthly 'sciences')
AND also a friend of God.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Yeshua, now what you are doing is telling me I am not a Christian, which is AGAINST THE FORUM RULES. Do you want to get banned again (for at least the fourth time)?

 

[GodLovesCats]

The Word of the Father in Heaven Says so clearly. No one can be a friend of the world (includes manmade earthly 'sciences') AND also a friend of God.

The Word of God does not say science is unprovable. That is all I am talking about, not who we should believe (because scientists prove a lot of things).

If you want to tell me I am not a Christian, good luck keeping your account alive. I am going to click on the word Report every time you even imply that. GOT IT?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The Word of God does not say science is unprovable.

The many / several/ few/ things you have stated about man's science is contrary to the Word of God so far, and goes against the direction He Himself tells us to trust Him and to believe HIM.

The science that is provable, so to speak, must of course be proven within / in line with/ all Scripture - if it is proven contrary to Scripture (i.e. as men do - with deception, deceptive proofs, daily)
then it is not accepted nor acceptable.

Truth is always in perfect harmony with all Scripture and God's Plan and Purpose.

Manmade 'science' is often opposed to the life of people's souls, and causes and leads to sickness, illness, death and destruction (of the physical life, and for those deceived the spiritual life possibly) .

Thus, as always, everything stated by anyone, EVEN BY AN APOSTLE or as if AN ANGEL OF LIGHT,
must be tested BEFORE being accepted.
WHEN it is shown clearly , as often the system of men is, if not always, opposed to God, then it is not best to be accepted nor supported nor to be believed.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yeshua, now what you are doing is telling me I am not a Christian, which is AGAINST THE FORUM RULES. Do you want to get banned again (for at least the fourth time)?

I've never said you were not saved or were not a Christian.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I've never said you were not saved or were not a Christian.

You told me to believe in Jesus and that people who accept the truth about science don't believe in Jesus. That is saying I am not a Christian - no way around it. If you meant something else, please rephrase it.

BTW I never said I believe in science and put man above God. I was saying it's not either/or because the Bible is not a science book, so it is not supposed to have any information that has been proven by many scientists about evolution.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

re friend of the world in James 4:4
James 4:4 You adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever chooses to be a friend of the world renders himself an enemy of God.
... ... ...Don't you know that friendship with the world means hostility with God?
So whoever wants to be a friend of this world is an enemy of God. NET Bible ...

do you not know that friendship with the world means hostility toward God?

So whoever decides to be the world's friend makes himself God's enemy. New Heart English Bible

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You told me to believe in Jesus and that people who accept the truth about science don't believe in Jesus. That is saying I am not a Christian - no way around it. If you meant something else, please rephrase it.

I tell EVERYONE (brothers and sisters and strangers)
to trust and to believe in JESUS. And to TRUST THE FATHER. EVERYONE.
See previous post for GOD'S INSTRUCTION from James 4:4 about the world.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

so it is not supposed to have any information that has been proven by many scientists about evolution.

The Bible Says A LOT about this. Nothing about evolution lines up in harmony with anything I see in all Scripture. Many posters on this forum have shown that it is contrary to Scripture.

(God NEVER says "many" (or "any"? ) scientists are to be trusted, any more than ANY apostle or evangelist or teacher, UNTIL AFTER what they speak is proven in line with Scripture all, or not in which case no one would(should?) believe them.)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You told me to believe in Jesus and that people who accept the truth about science don't believe in Jesus. That is saying I am not a Christian - no way around it. If you meant something else, please rephrase it.

BTW I never said I believe in science and put man above God. I was saying it's not either/or because the Bible is not a science book, so it is not supposed to have any information that has been proven by many scientists about evolution.

Remember (as just came up in another thread) about Ananias and Saphira ? And Moses ?

God's Word DOES NOT SAY they were not saved, even when they sinned, or when they died.

They simply had a temporal judgment, as written, for whatever purpose and plan God had for them.

No indication it affected their salvation, was there ?

 

[GodLovesCats]

Again, the Bible is not a science book. It does not say scientists who discover things God made are liars. I am sure God made the animals and plants that were fossilized millions of years before He created man. It makes no sense to think that when people find totally natural objects God made, saying they did is a lie.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Again, the Bible is not a science book. It does not say scientists who discover things God made are liars. I am sure God made the animals and plants that were fossilized millions of years before He created man. It makes no sense to think that when people find totally natural objects God made, saying they did is a lie.

What mankind DOES with the things they find is what is sinful.

Remember mankind/ society IS SINFUL. And it is soon to be destroyed by fire (not by flood).