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Why all people are not saved?

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Death lost its power over man once Christ had sacrificed Himself. Thank God The Father.
That Christ is the only way to Heaven.

You bring up one of the differences between before and after the cross. Christ is the way we can today get to heaven, but prior to the cross it was different:
Paul explain the difference:

Ro. 3:25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

In Ro.3:25 Paul presents a bold huge contrast between the way sins are handled today and the way repentant forgiven sins where handled prior to the cross:

Ro. 3: 25 …He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished

I do not like the word “unpunished” since in Greek the same word also means “undisciplined”.

So prior to the cross repentant forgiven people (saved individuals) could not be fairly and justly disciplined for the rebellious disobedience, but after the cross if we repent (come to our senses and turn to God) we can be fairly and justly disciplined and yet survive.
 
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Is the best answer: “Only God knows and you will have to ask Him when you get to heaven”?

No. The Bible tells us why people turn from the saving truths of the Gospel and from God.

John 3:19-20
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one who does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

It isn't that God is too weak to save or that He doesn't wish to save but that those whom He would save don't want to be saved. They prefer darkness to His light.

Romans 1:19-21
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God has shown it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

People suppress the knowledge of God they obtain from the testimony of Creation and their own conscience in order to serve themselves. They desire to worship and serve the creature more than the Creator. (vs. 25) God would save them, though, if they would be saved.

Ephesians 2:2-3
2 Wherein in time past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our living in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

This is the state of all the lost. Every one who has not been saved is bound under the power of the World, the Flesh, and the devil. And so, until they hear the saving truth of the Gospel, which is the power of God unto salvation, they are unable to respond positively to the natural knowledge of God they have. Even when the Gospel is heard, the majority of people will not receive it, not because God couldn't force them to accept His work of salvation, but because, rather than kicking it in, He stands at the door and knocks and waits upon the one within to open it to Him (Revelation 3:20). He draws (John 6:44), illuminates (John 16:13), convicts (John 16:8), imparts repentance (2 Timothy 2:25) and faith (Romans 12:3) to the lost person but He does compel them to accept His gift of salvation in Christ. And so, not all who could be saved, are.

Could God not save anyone and be true to His nature?

The problem isn't on His end but ours. We could not truly love Him if we did so ultimately by divine compulsion. Love, by definition, cannot be compelled.

According to some, God could just as easily and righteously save your neighbor as you, so would you be just as happy or even happier if God saved your neighbor instead of you, since you are to Love your neighbor as Christ Loves them? How is this selection method not arbitrary?

It's only arbitrary if you accept the idea that God chooses and compels people to salvation. I don't.

Check out: www.soteriology101.com or search "Molinism" at www.reasonablefaith.org

God would thus be selfless, so not saving some has to be to the benefit of others, so how does some going to hell benefit anyone?

God has been selfless in taking on human flesh and dying a substitutionary atoning death on a cross for all of humanity. In doing so, He provides eternal salvation to all who would receive it. Many will not take it, desiring instead to worship and serve themselves rather than their Maker, and find themselves finally in hell. Their choice to do so doesn't benefit anyone, I think, but this is no way diminishes God's selfless, merciful, gracious efforts to make a way of escape from His righteous, holy judgment and wrath.
 
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Why is it necessary for all people to be saved? God is always in the business of giving people what they want. If they do not want God's presence they will not have it. Atheists say they cannot see a real God. They are absolutely right. He is only present for those who want him to be.
 
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How does one gain or lose faith....to the point of rejecting or accepting Christ?
I am surprised you do not know the answer to this question. You gain faith by walking with the Holy Spirit and you lose faith by quenching the Holy Spirit.
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I am surprised you do not know the answer to this question. You gain faith by walking with the Holy Spirit and you lose faith by quenching the Holy Spirit.
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True for the saved....I'm speaking of the unsaved.

Why would a person chose to believe or not believe?
 
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I can't address the questions in the OP because your using the word "God" for something that is under a law you created.. that's not a God at
all..

When Christ came down from Heaven we see Him in human form, teaching us and giving us a path of reconciliation to God.

That only shows a part of the nature of God, not the whole. Because there is a second understanding of the nature of God, that is God is all His Glory, His majesty, and his Judgment..

The only physical description of Jesus in any identifiable form is found in Revelations 1, and that is because it's the only one that describes Jesus in majesty. Its not the description of a humble human..

When Jesus walked the earth He came to divide (Luke 12:49-56). The Word of God penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.(Hebrews 4:12)

Your so caught up in a singular definition of love alone, that your missing Christ.

"And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man,dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
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This description tells you about Christ. "Love" doesn't cancel out God's other qualities, rather, God has many qualities that together create a complex whole.
I am not using some man written dictionary to define “Godly type Love”, but the way the Bible defines Godly type Love.

You have not told me where you got your definition from, I was specifically using 1Cor. 13 to show God by definition is “selfless”.

Christ in His “Spiritual form” is to live with every Christian, makes His home with us. People are to see Christ of the Gospels living today in every Christian, the way they saw Christ living in and through Paul, Luke, Timothy and all the others. Imitating them as they imitated Christ, which was not the image of Revelations.

Revelations is a very poetic figurative letter not to be taken literally. All true Christians are to be like Christ, so when we present Christianity to the nonbelieving sinner they individually get to accept or reject the living personal Christ living in and through the Christian and not just some doctrine. Just like the apostles the potential Christian gets to know Christ personally Loving on them, listening to them, teaching/mentoring them, spending time with them, and experiencing Christ, and only later being presented Christ of Revelation which is spoken of little.

What is your definition of Godly type Love from scripture and presented with Christ?

Jesus spoke the words the person needed to hear with Love, but if not accepted it was hard for them, but that was not because Jesus did not Love them or want to help them. Hopefully they remembered those words and repented later.

Jesus describes His most glorious time here on earth being Hid time on the cross, so is that the image we are to remember since we have a memorial to that event in remembrance of His time on the cross.

Christ and God’s glory is seen greatest in their Love for humans and yes they can still be totally selfless and be just, glorious and hard on people.
 
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Why did you chose?
I didn't. God choose me. Once regenerated we then choose to follow Christ. It's not a salvational choice as we are already saved. Somedays we do better than other days concerning to choose to follow Christ.
 
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I didn't. God choose me. Once regenerated we then choose to follow Christ. It's not a salvational choice as we are already saved. Somedays we do better than other days concerning to choose to follow Christ.

I chose God. God chose you. We are both right. God chose us because we chose HIM.
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I think your interpretation of hell is extremely flawed. What you just described is annihilationism, though I'm sure you know this term. Here is an article on the topic: Is annihilationism biblical?. Let me paraphrase a part of the article that I think makes a lot of sense:

"Hell is perhaps a primary reason why God sent Jesus Christ to pay the penalty for our sins. Being “extinguished” after death is no fate to dread, but an eternity in hell most definitely is. Jesus’ death was an infinite death, paying our infinite sin debt so that we would not have to pay it in hell for eternity (2 Corinthians 5:21). When we place our faith in Him, we are saved, forgiven, cleansed, and promised an eternal home in heaven. But if we reject God’s gift of eternal life, we will face the eternal consequences of that decision."

See? Atheists, for example, already believe that we cease to exist after death. What would be their motivation to become a Christian and follow Jesus if there weren't any consequences for doing otherwise? Why would Jesus speak so strongly about hell if it wasn't that big of a deal? Just my thoughts. That website has many other articles that address the main issues people have with hell.

The common use and belief in annihilation is different than what I believe. Most annihiationists think that when you physically die, that's it, it's over. Jehovah Witnessess believe that when you die, you go to the grave and you cease to exist. Your dead bones lie there untill you are someday resurrected. They dont believe we have a spirit. Seventh Day Adventists believe in soul sleep. And so both believe in something different attached to annihilation.
As for Matt. 25:46, a crucial verse indeed. Just look at the various translations of that verse. The KJV uses the same Greek word that is applied to both realms, Heaven and Hell, but for Heaven, the word eternal is used. However for Hell, everlasting is used. There is a difference. Everlasting, means age-lasting or age-during. This word has variable meanings. Examine other versions.
As for the nature of the Lake of Fire, to say it has both physical and spiritual functions does not make sense. Some think it is a spiritual realm. This is a gross misunderstanding of what the word spirit means. GOD is Spirit, a person. Heaven is a place where God and spirits abide.
Unbelievers already have a dead spirit, which is why no spiritual destruction would be needed, they are already dead. Their soul is there fleshy self which goes to Hades when the die. Then they remain in Hades until their body is physically resurrected and then they are thrown into the Lake of Fire, that is a physical place and more of an event. Hades is not Hell, since both Hades and Death are cast into
HE'LL, THE LAKE OF FIRE. So it is very possible that if the event takes takes at a certain time, the Lake of Fire may not exist yet. The whole planet will be burned up along with everything in it! I suppose you think that is spiritual too?

Destroy means destroy, to put an end to. Eternal has variable meanings and not translated properly. When it pertains to sour temporal created realm that will someday pass away, it should be translated age-lasting or age during. Hades was created and is a part of this earth, the underworld. The Lake of Fire is likened to the Gehenna, a dump outside if Jerusalem used to burn garbage and the dead. Fire exists beneath the earth, beneath mountains. Volcanos form lava lakes and so this Lake of Fire will be physical in nature. Resurrected bodies will be thrown into this Lake of Fire and they will burn like paper and be destroyed. After the Millenial Kingdom, the earth and heavens will burn in a fervent heat. That will be a literal and physical event.
 
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How can you know anything about God apart from the contrast of sin? What is love without hate?
"Hate" is not the opposite of "Love" while apathy toward a person is the opposite of Loving that person. The "problem" with accepting Godly type Love as pure charity is the fact you have to accept pure charity as charity and no one likes to accept pure charity, we like to maintain our pride and not look upon ourselves as beggars.
Sin is not introduced to allow God to "hate" us and others, so we can appreciate His Love all the more. We are not trying to learn about God, but how much help we are needing. Sin is a burden to the conscience (remembrance of hurting others) and we can know how bad sin is. Knowing sin creates an unbelievable huge debt helps us seek and accept God's forgiveness and thus obtain an unbelievable huge Love automatically (Godly type Love) because Jesus taught us "...he that is forgiven much Loves much...".
 
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I am not using some man written dictionary to define “Godly type Love”, but the way the Bible defines Godly type Love.

You have not told me where you got your definition from, I was specifically using 1Cor. 13 to show God by definition is “selfless”.

Christ in His “Spiritual form” is to live with every Christian, makes His home with us. People are to see Christ of the Gospels living today in every Christian, the way they saw Christ living in and through Paul, Luke, Timothy and all the others. Imitating them as they imitated Christ, which was not the image of Revelations.

Revelations is a very poetic figurative letter not to be taken literally. All true Christians are to be like Christ, so when we present Christianity to the nonbelieving sinner they individually get to accept or reject the living personal Christ living in and through the Christian and not just some doctrine. Just like the apostles the potential Christian gets to know Christ personally Loving on them, listening to them, teaching/mentoring them, spending time with them, and experiencing Christ, and only later being presented Christ of Revelation which is spoken of little.

What is your definition of Godly type Love from scripture and presented with Christ?

Jesus spoke the words the person needed to hear with Love, but if not accepted it was hard for them, but that was not because Jesus did not Love them or want to help them. Hopefully they remembered those words and repented later.

Jesus describes His most glorious time here on earth being Hid time on the cross, so is that the image we are to remember since we have a memorial to that event in remembrance of His time on the cross.

Christ and God’s glory is seen greatest in their Love for humans and yes they can still be totally selfless and be just, glorious and hard on people.

You won't see a full picture of Christ living amongst us through Christians until you see someone knot up a rope and whoop the girl scouts selling cookies in front of the churches, because that's what Christ did to the money changers in the Temple.

Even Jesus knew there was a time to fight and a time to rest, and, if there comes a time to fight there has to be people your going to fight against, and that can't be the people your loving.

God is more than the sum of only one attribute. It is just as true of God to say God sometimes withholds mercy from some people, as it is to say God is love.

In the end, everything God does is entirely Just simply because He's God - He's the one who defines Justice.
 
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You bring up one of the differences between before and after the cross. Christ is the way we can today get to heaven, but prior to the cross it was different:
Paul explain the difference:

Ro. 3:25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

In Ro.3:25 Paul presents a bold huge contrast between the way sins are handled today and the way repentant forgiven sins where handled prior to the cross:

Ro. 3: 25 …He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished

I do not like the word “unpunished” since in Greek the same word also means “undisciplined”.

So prior to the cross repentant forgiven people (saved individuals) could not be fairly and justly disciplined for the rebellious disobedience, but after the cross if we repent (come to our senses and turn to God) we can be fairly and justly disciplined and yet survive.
What I have found is that when Christ comes as a thief in the night, you must be converted.
Matt.18
  1. [3] And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  1. [3] And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mark.4
  1. [12] That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
The following Verse shows how different one becomes once Baptized in The Holy Spirit.

Luke.22
  1. [32] But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
Everyone going to Heaven must be converted. That change must stay to the end with constant improvements.
 
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"Hate" is not the opposite of "Love" while apathy toward a person is the opposite of Loving that person. The "problem" with accepting Godly type Love as pure charity is the fact you have to accept pure charity as charity and no one likes to accept pure charity, we like to maintain our pride and not look upon ourselves as beggars.
Sin is not introduced to allow God to "hate" us and others, so we can appreciate His Love all the more. We are not trying to learn about God, but how much help we are needing. Sin is a burden to the conscience (remembrance of hurting others) and we can know how bad sin is. Knowing sin creates an unbelievable huge debt helps us seek and accept God's forgiveness and thus obtain an unbelievable huge Love automatically (Godly type Love) because Jesus taught us "...he that is forgiven much Loves much...".
Hate is the exact opposite of love. You cannot know one without the other.
 
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This is basically the paradox of the Crux Theologorum, "Why are some saved and not others?" And the only answer we have, really, is because there are some who simply will not, and do not wish, to be saved. Not because salvation is a choice, it's not, it is the gift and work of God which is for the whole world--everyone, each and every person without exception. And yet, we see that the seed falls on the ground, and sometimes it is plucked by birds of the air, or choked out by thorns and thistles, etc.

God alone saves.
Man alone damns.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I was wondering, how does that align up with John 3:18? Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

I think you have a good point. If one doesn’t believe that sins are forgiven and so doesn’t accept it, the judgment that would come because of sin remains.
 
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Which gets back to the question....why do people choose God? Is that decision based upon past events in one's life?
People choose God through His Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth for numerous reasons. One thing that binds all those reason's is because they LOVE HIM.
 
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