Is science good?

[A_Thinker]

the persecution of Judge Moore ...

Judge Moore ... the pedophile ???

How did Science have anything to do with the "persecution" of Judge Moore ?

Your reaching is becoming destructive to your argument, I'm afraid ...

 

[Kylie]

But when mankind is ready to deny God, science is there to assist him in his defense of his decision.

I disagree. Science is an investigation of reality. If the Bible is true when it says reality is proof of the work of God (see Romans 1:20, Psalm 19:1-3, Acts 14:15-17, et al), then surely you must conclude that an unbiased investigation of reality will point to God.

Eve appealed to her empirical senses to override her obedience to God's command.

Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

"And when academians saw that Darwin's tree was convincing for evolution, and that it could be mapped out in a connect-the-dots format that was pleasant to the eyes, and a course to be desired to make themselves [Homo] sapiens, they did take of that course, and did give also to the Christians with them, and they did follow suit also."

Actually, the Bible makes it quite clear that until they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, they had no concept of being good or being bad. Thus they could not understand that it was bad to eat from the tree.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's not Science ... that's self-gratification.

That is empiricalism used against God's commandment.

You're spinning ...

Then you need a new username.

Neither Egypt, nor Babylon, nor ...

Here we go.

First you said:

I don't think that you'll find even one instance of the resistance to God which is portrayed in the Bible ... in any way aided and abetted by Science ...

And when I give one, you suddenly broaden the focus.

Do you want to address my point about what occurred in the Garden of Eden?

Because I'm not going to do a country-by-country walk through history with you.

It STARTED in the Garden of Eden, fueled by empirical science.

 

[AV1611VET]

Judge Moore ... the pedophile ???

The judge who was displaying the Ten Commandments.

 

[A_Thinker]

It STARTED in the Garden of Eden, fueled by empirical science.

This is blatant spinning ... not really even worthy of consideration.

You, as well as I, KNOW that the heart of ORIGINAL and ONGOING sin is the HEART of man (i.e. nothing from the OUTSIDE) ...

Matthew 25:18-20

" ... For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person. ...”

 

[A_Thinker]

The judge who was displaying the Ten Commandments.

I think it is better to keep the Ten Commandments (i.e. keep your hands off of young girls) ... rather than to display them ...

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Atheism is a religion too, no?

The option that: 'There are no gods' doesn't easily turn into a parsimonious 'scientific explanation' without the objective test which would lead to that conclusion .. (but folk are free to adopt that belief if they choose to I suppose).

No, it isn't.

It has no universal tenets that must be followed. It has no holy book that must be interpreted. Atheism is the answer to a single question: "Do you believe there are any gods?" If the answer to that question is a definitive "no" you are an atheist. Anything else you believe are your own personal beliefs and, while they may be informed by your atheism no particular belief is a requirement other than your belief about the non-existence of gods. There are atheists who believe in UFOs, Big Foot, Eastern medicine, cupping, ghosts... There's nothing about atheism that requires you to be consistent in your non-belief because there are no tenets.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, it isn't.

It is a form of worship, according to the Bible.

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

It is a form of worship, according to the Bible.

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

But, it isn't. Why should I care what your holy book says or how you interpret it?

 

[Speedwell]

It is a form of worship, according to the Bible.

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Worship, whether of "the creature" or anything else, is not a part of atheism.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why should I care what your holy book says ...

Your future depends on It.

 

[AV1611VET]

Worship, whether of "the creature" or anything else, is not a part of atheism.

"The creature," in this case, is creation (a.k.a., the universe).

It is enounced: cree-ay-chur -- not: cree-chur.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Your future depends on It.

No it doesn't. No more than your future depends on what is written in the Bhagavad Gita.

 

[Speedwell]

"The creature," in this case, is creation (a.k.a., the universe).

It is enounced: cree-ay-chur -- not: cree-chur.

You are correct. My point still stands: atheists do not worship the universe.

 

[dad]

So bad science is the science that disagrees with your preconceived ideas.

Bad so called fraudulent phony so called science is that which uses preconceptions and beliefs to hatch God opposing truth.

You can't actually point out any errors in it, all you can do is claim it's satanic and evil.

The error is that it is a bunch of beliefs and attitude and making stuff up to fit their godless contrived paradigm. To call that science is error.

And when asked for evidence to support your counterclaims, all you can do is say, "You can't prove I'm wrong!"

The proof is in the pudding. One can read the fables and stories and claims of false science and compare them with what the Almighty said! If they agreed, rather than directly contradict and oppose Scripture, well we would not suspect some different inspiration!

As for actual science of the real world that is easy to look at also. Put the good things on one side of a paper and the bad things on the other side. Then try and determine if one side or the other is stronger or weaker. Next, express an opinion, if overall, you think science (including the false so called origin sciences) are good or bad overall.

 

[dad]

It's not Science front and center ... it's people front and center.

Recall that you believe that God brought the flood upon a very technically primitive world.

In respect to what is worshiped or prominent in PEOPLE'S eyes, science is front and center these days. (not to God, of course, to Whom it is foolishness)

 

[dad]

Neither Egypt, nor Babylon, nor Assyria, nor Rome, nor the Jewish leadership od Jesus' day ... were, in any way motivated by Science ... in their resistance /opposition to God.

Science represents knowledge. There were wise learned mean all through history and they used their magic or knowledge to fight God, as we saw in Egypt. Babylon had it's wise men, and Rome had considerable accumulated knowledge, technology (weapons, road building, etc). The New Testament talks of people who thought they made themselves wise but were fools.
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[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

Enough. There is flaming. This thread is closed.


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