God’s pleasure

[Tone]

I understand your perspective... but I only desire the Propitiation Of Jesus.

“In my hands, nothing I bring... to Jesus, alone, do I cling”

Ephesians 2:8-10 (Ephesians 2:9)

Do you understand that He is the Word of Ephesians?

 

[Tone]

Can you explain that to me?

It means you are not to say I got to follow Torah...when the Ruach ha Kodesh Breathes into you His Life...you understand that you get to walk Torah...this is Light.

 

[Grip Docility]

Do you understand that He is the Word of Ephesians?

The “Word” Of Ephesians? Word... Translated from “Logos”... “Memra”...

Meaning: Reason for everything. He is the Word.

He is this... (John 5:39-40)

 

[Grip Docility]

Here is a follow up question. For those who said false, why don’t you consider yourself to be in Christ?

 

[Hammster]

It means you are not to say I got to follow Torah...when the Ruach ha Kodesh Breathes into you His Life...you understand that you get to walk Torah...this is Light.

So then there is nothing I need to do if I’m in Christ, right?

 

[Tone]

So then there is nothing I need to do if I’m in Christ, right?

It's more of a desire:

Psalm 37
"3Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness. 4Delight yourself in the LORD, and He will give you the desires of your heart.5Commit your way to the LORD; trust in Him, and He will do it."

 

[TheSeabass]

What does it mean to “obey the gospel”?

2 Thess 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

The gospel must be obeyed for one not to be in flaming fire. Obey means to submit to, to follow, to comply to instructions or commands.

Therefore if one is to obey the gospel, one needs to know what the gospel is so one can obey, follow, comply to it:

1 Cor 15:1-4 the gospel Paul delivered was "...how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

So if one must obey the gospel to avoid being in flaming fire, and the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, then how does one obey the historical events of Christ's death burial and resurrection?

Romans 6:1-6 When one is water baptized, the old man of sin dies, one is buried in a watery grave from which one is raised up (resurrected) from that watery grave. Therefore only in water baptism is there a death burial and resurrection that takes. Water baptism is the gospel in 'form" Romans 6:17. Rejecting water baptism is rejecting the gospel of Christ, Acts 2:41.

Luther's faith onlyism, a sinner's prayer, "accepting" Christ into one's heart is not NT obedience, there is no death burial and resurrection in these man-made ideas.

 

[TheSeabass]

Here is a follow up question. For those who said false, why don’t you consider yourself to be in Christ?

Answering 'false' to the op does not mean I is not in Christ.

 

[fhansen]

True or False

God’s pleasure with us is not based on our performance.

God is pleased by our faith, itself a free response to grace that could be resisted, because that faith can produce righteousness or justice in man by initiating him into relationship with the God who, alone, can justify us, which has been the plan since the beginning. Not to save us in spite of injustice, but make us just unto salvation. So yes, of course He's pleased with the performance He's wrought in us! That's His work, that we participated in. He loves that; He wants us whole. "The only thing that counts is faith working through love" (Gal 5:6). He's pleased by those things done for "the least of these" mentioned in Matt 25. He's pleased most of all, IOW, by our love.

 

[Hammster]

Answering 'false' to the op does not mean I is not in Christ.

If God sees you in Christ, isn’t He pleased?

 

[aiki]

So then there is nothing I need to do if I’m in Christ, right?

There is much a Christian ought to do, that he should do, and that he will do as the Holy Spirit is in control of his life, but none of these things he needs to do, or must do, or are necessary to do in order to be God's child. The inevitability of good works in the Christian life does not make good works necessary to Christian life.

We are accepted by God by virtue of our being in Christ and on no other basis. And so, our acceptance with God is inviolate, as constant and sure as God's acceptance of Christ is.

1 Corinthians 1:30-31
30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God--and righteousness and sanctification and redemption--
31 that, as it is written, "He who glories, let him glory in the Lord."

 

[PaulCyp1]

God's pleasure with us is based on out acceptance of Him as Lord and Savior, which necessarily guides our behavior. You can't have one without the other. Which is why Jesus said it is not those who say "Lord, Lord" who will enter the kingdom, but those who DO the will of My Father". "Do" = behavior.

 

[Grip Docility]

God's pleasure with us is based on out acceptance of Him as Lord and Savior, which necessarily guides our behavior. You can't have one without the other. Which is why Jesus said it is not those who say "Lord, Lord" who will enter the kingdom, but those who DO the will of My Father". "Do" = behavior.

I’ve gotta be honest... the Lord Lord crowd brought a do list.

That’s not scripturally accurate.

Lord Lord .. remember when I DID...

 

[StevenBelievin]

So on the one hand there is "Your sins I will remember no more". Our sins are imputed to Jesus and His righteousness is imputed to us. Also 1st John says "In Him (Jesus) there is no sin" and we as Christians are "in Him", so how can we be "in Him" and have sin at the same time?

On the other hand we are told not to "grieve the Holy Spirit by whom we are sealed unto the day of redemption". If God remembers all our sins (past present and future) no more, then how is it possible to grieve the Spirit? Wouldn't He have to see it in order to be grieved by it?

 

[Hammster]

It's more of a desire:

Psalm 37
"3Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness. 4Delight yourself in the LORD, and He will give you the desires of your heart.5Commit your way to the LORD; trust in Him, and He will do it."

So I need to desire?

 

[StevenBelievin]

I’ve gotta be honest... the Lord Lord crowd brought a do list.

That’s not scripturally accurate.

Lord Lord .. remember when I DID...

I think the Lord Lord crowd was trying to earn it but were also workers of lawlessness..

 

[Hammster]

2 Thess 1:8 "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

The gospel must be obeyed for one not to be in flaming fire. Obey means to submit to, to follow, to comply to instructions or commands.

Therefore if one is to obey the gospel, one needs to know what the gospel is so one can obey, follow, comply to it:

1 Cor 15:1-4 the gospel Paul delivered was "...how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

So if one must obey the gospel to avoid being in flaming fire, and the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, then how does one obey the historical events of Christ's death burial and resurrection?

Romans 6:1-6 When one is water baptized, the old man of sin dies, one is buried in a watery grave from which one is raised up (resurrected) from that watery grave. Therefore only in water baptism is there a death burial and resurrection that takes. Water baptism is the gospel in 'form" Romans 6:17. Rejecting water baptism is rejecting the gospel of Christ, Acts 2:41.

Luther's faith onlyism, a sinner's prayer, "accepting" Christ into one's heart is not NT obedience, there is no death burial and resurrection in these man-made ideas.

Got it. So if follow the law (get baptized) then I’m obeying the gospel.

 

[Hammster]

Answering 'false' to the op does not mean I is not in Christ.

If the Father sees us in Christ, He’s pleased. There’s nothing we need to do.

 

[Gideons300]

FIRST!

I say true.

God expects us to mistakes as the human heart is in a fallen state but we are saved by faith.

What's my prize?

He expects us to make mistakes?? Brother, we are told He considers it our reasonable service to present our bodies as loving sacrifices, to not be conformed to the ways of the wolrd but to be transformed into His image by abiding in Him.

There is no question He loves us, but pleased with us while we dally in sin and worldliness while our hearts are lukewarm to Him? While our love for ourselves firmly outweighs our love for Him? While obedience to Him takes a second seat to pleasing ourselves? The devil has sown this lie in our midst and multitudes are eating it up.

Was God pleased with rhe servant who made no gain? Was the master pleased when His own were to busy with things of this life to prepare themselves to meet their Lord? I think we both know that answer. In both cases, He was wroth. As a matter of fact, in Luke 17, after He had taken away that which He had given to the unprofitable servant, He said these profound and sobering words:

"Then bring all those who would not have me to reign over them, and slay them before me." Ouch.

It is one thing if we are truly trying to walk as children of God and to see sin defeated in our lives and to put off our old carnal nature. But to those who have no desire to flee willful sin, He tells us that there remains no sacrifice for sin, but a fearful looking for of judgment.

We have become those spoken of who have itching ears, who want all the goodness God offers without the hating of our own life. Make no mistake, there will be multitudes on the final day shocked to hear the displeasure in God's voice as He tells them to depart from Him.

Look. I get it. Right now, we have been fed a half gospel that tries to convince us that sin is now no big deal..... the same sins that caused Jesus to have to suffer and die for us. No wonder we have wandered so far from the truth.

But praise God forevermore, there is an answer for us, and God is even now beginning to reveal it to His own. But to those who want to have their cake and eat it too, nothing will be revealed.

For the one who truly longs to become fully obedient, yet who finds himself still mired in Romans 7, doing the things he truly hates, God is about to move mountains to awaken such a one as to HOW to walk in holiness and righteousness all the days of His life.

Amazing days are ahead for those who love the light but simply do not yet how to walk in it. But for those who still find great pleasure in darkness and self rule, their deception is about to increase a hundred-fold.

blessings,

Gideon

 

[WherevertheWindblows]

Got it. So if follow the law (get baptized) then I’m obeying the gospel.

I believe the Pharisees rejected water baptism didn't they? They were those who sought to justify themselves whereas even Johns Baptism was not for self justification but for justifying God in Luke 7:29-30