I think its useless to give it a label Jesus didn’t. I think a warning is a better description. There are those here who recently wrote their sins don’t matter. They’d be harder pressed to write Jesus’ warnings don’t matter.
I am not surprised. I am come to the conclusion that OSAS has a spiritual bondage/blindness that comes with it. You can show them all the Greek you want. I suspect if Jesus himself showed up they would not budge. They got their license to behave as they want and are assured they are going to Heaven no matter what they do. There is a blindness that comes with this that true Greek is not going to penetrate.
Most people want to be Loved by others for the way they want others to perceive them to be. Loving in spite of the way the person is not really logical. For the all powerful all knowing ever existing God, we could expect Him to reach the epidemy of perfection, so it is logical in that way. God's Love for us is not affected by our actions and does not change who God is, just as the prodigal son's father does not need to son to return to Love him.
That is why I think there is a spiritual bondage there. People get angry over an idea. They get abusive as well.Unfortunately my brother is also blinded by this false teaching. He gets angry when I try to explain the scriptures to him because he doesn’t want to hear that he must change his way of life to be saved. He wants to live his life his way and if God can’t accept him for who he is then oh well. His exact words. I pray The Lord will work in him and he will come around before it’s too late.
Ah, so most people want deception in those who love them? Others are supposed to perceive them to be a certain way they really are not? What kind of love is that? I have no idea if most people want this but there must be some who have received a love of the truth and want truth in those who love them too.
It is for God. This is because God and those filled with his spirit see that person as made in His image and worthy of love for that reason if no other. I guess one has to experience it to see the logic. God sees the truth and loves. That is logical given the right understanding.
It is true that our actions do not change God. But our actions deeply affect our relationship with God. That is, he responds to our actions. We make choices and he makes choices based on our choices at times. If we make other choices, then He makes other choices. He is not unresponsive.
I said it is clearly a warning Jesus gave. I will not call it what Jesus refused to call it. Not everything out of his mouth was a command.
You really insist on putting the words of Jesus in one of two boxes, don't you? Doesn't the word "warning" come to mind at all?
What is so hard about answering yes or no? I asked you a very simple question. Is unforgiveness a sin?
All mature adults have to the ability to: wimp out, give up and surrender to their enemy (God) while He is still their enemy. They have the little faith needed to humbly accept God's pure charity in the form of forgiveness.
I have tried to explain God's Love to good intelligent people with no results, but like you say it is better experienced than explained.
When the men asked Jesus a “simple “ question as to which man would be the wife of a woman legimately married many times, he didn’t give a “simple” answer because they didn’t understand the foundational matter at all and he only told the truth. That’s the problem. Jesus gave a lot of warnings and God doesn’t have only two words to describe our choices, sin or non-sin.
There are many things about understanding God that require Him to open the mind as it has been darkened by too many sinful choices.
