What commandments is Jesus talking about?

[Tone]

Having thus expressed a desire to be under the law. Thanks for proving my point.

So, if I defend the U.S.A., I am defending everything that makes up its history?

 

[Tone]

"The word for the former rains, yoreh, comes from the same root as to shoot or cast, or teach! Like an arrow being shot to its target, or information being directly delivered from teacher to pupil, the yoreh rains are sent down to soften up the ground, ready for the first round of planting. In fact, God’s teaching is also compared to the sending of rain in Deuteronomy 32:2, “May my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, like gentle rain upon the tender grass,and like showers upon the herb”.

The latter rains, malkosh, are much harder rains that would have just caused flooding and devastation if they had come earlier on the dusty, dry ground. But these latter Spring rains are essential for the agricultural cycle too; the “Gezer Calendar” (an archeological relic with inscriptions from the time of Solomon [1]) tells us that in January / February time, there was a second round of later planting in ancient Israel’s agricultural year, called the lekesh. The word for these harder, later rains, malkosh, is related to the lekesh: the latter downpours can more easily penetrate the softer ground and bring forth the second harvest in the Spring.

The Spirit of God is often connected with water in the Bible, and God’s provision of water, and some would see the “former rain” and the “latter rain” as outpourings of the Holy Spirit, as vindication of the message of the gospel. Joel 2:23 says,

“Be glad, O children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God, for he has given the early rain for your vindication; he has poured down for you abundant rain, the early and the latter rain, as before.”

The remarkable signs and wonders that followed the first apostles validated their message so that it was widely believed, causing the gospel spread far and wide in a relatively short time. Perhaps as the days get darker and message carried by the true followers of Yeshua seems more and more preposterous, God will send another “latter day downpour” of his Spirit to accompany his servants, vindicating their message. Time will tell. One thing is for certain, rain is repeatedly equated with God’s blessing throughout the Bible:
The Former & Latter Rains in Israel - ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry

"The Hebrew word, torah (תורה), is derived from a root that was used in the realm of archery, yareh (ירה). Yareh means to shoot an arrow in order to hit a mark. The mark or target, of course, was the object at which the archer was aiming. Consequently, torah, one of the nouns derived from this root, is, therefore, the arrow aimed at the mark, The target is the truth about God and how one relates to Him. The torah is, therefore, in the strict sense instruction designed to teach us the truth about God. Torah means direction,teaching, instruction,or doctrine."
Torah - Definition

 

[BNR32FAN]

Where is the "mosaic law" found?

Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy are most of it.

 

[Tone]

Looks like this thread has become a two-horse race. I'll leave you to it.

We can permit a cat...I think...

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

We can permit a cat...I think...

My cat has only two commandments to follow: piddle and poop in the dirt box and not on the floor; and don't scratch the furniture!

There is a penalty for breaking these commandments - a good squirt of water from my squirty bottle!

 

[Saint Steven]

It didn't remain stagnant. Even the story of Hagar and Ishmael went on. Have you read more of the account?

The passage, Galatians 4:21-31, isn't about the story of Hagar and Sarah, or even Hagar and Ishmael. It's about slavery under the law and freedom in the Spirit.

Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

 

[Saint Steven]

So, if I defend the U.S.A., I am defending everything that makes up its history?

Yes. Whether apologetically, or unapologetically.
Are you defending the law apologetically, or unapologetically?

 

[Saint Steven]

Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy are most of it.

How can you claim that these are not the law from God?

Deuteronomy 29:1
These are the terms of the covenant the Lord commanded Moses to make with the Israelites in Moab, in addition to the covenant he had made with them at Horeb.

 

[ace of hearts]

You are very confused.

Show me my confusion.

 

[ace of hearts]

Yeah, I never said that we are sons because of the law. But, because we are sons, we see, accept, and use the life promoting principles of it. We have a relationship with Abba Who creates and sustains life and His Law is conducive to this:

Galatians 6:7
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Not through the law. A relationship with Abba is only obtainable through Jesus - Jn 14:6.

 

[Tone]

Not through the law. A relationship with Abba is only obtainable through Jesus - Jn 14:6.

I agree.

 

[ace of hearts]

What do you want to point out about verse 21?

“"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.”
‭‭MATTHEW‬ ‭7:21‬ ‭NASB‬‬

I key on "...but he who does the will of My Father..." Is a commandment of God, God's will?

 

[ace of hearts]

And who are these children today? The ones who believe and obey or the unbelievers who wish to kill them?

Kill who?

 

[Tone]

Show me my confusion.

Sorry. Judaism as practiced isn't Christianity. There's no Jesus in Judaism. Jesus is indeed the Messiah of the Jews and the whole world, Who is rejected for various reasons.

Well, what I had in mind way back when I said it is that Yahshua came through the tribe of Judah. He was a Yahudim. So, have you heard of Messianic Jews? If by "Christianity" you mean disciples of the Mashiach, then you follow a Jewish sect. Have you heard the term "Judeo-Christian"?

 

[ace of hearts]

It brought (bears children) condemnation, death, and slavery, because there was no relationship. There was no repentance and trust in the father...there was only unbelief.

There still is no relationship.

 

[Tone]

Kill who?

Please don't take this the wrong way, but is English your native language?

 

[Tone]

There still is no relationship.

You don't have a relationship with Him?

 

[ace of hearts]

In Messiah, I already have all.

In Messiah, yes but without the law.

 

[ace of hearts]

And where do you find this account?

IN THE TORAH.

In Gal 4 which is being talked about.

 

[Tone]

In Gal 4 which is being talked about.

...very confused...