What commandments is Jesus talking about?

[BABerean2]

If by "Christianity" you mean disciples of the Mashiach, then you follow a Jewish sect.

Act_11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.



Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

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[Tone]

Act_11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

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The disciples of Who?

 

[ace of hearts]

Right, they trust in Hagar alone, and not in the entirety of Torah, which includes Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, etc...

And who were they, when Galatians was written?

The law (covenant made with Israel) doesn't apply to anyone on you list.

 

[Tone]

In Messiah, yes but without the law.

What is the relationship between Messiah and the law?

 

[Tone]

The law (covenant made with Israel) doesn't apply to anyone on you list.

I don't know, it's a pretty long list (see those three dots after "etc"?).

 

[BABerean2]

What is the relationship between Messiah and the law?

Luk_16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

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[ace of hearts]

You need to understand the context of what Paul is saying. Notice l the very next verse in Galatians 5

“You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”
‭‭GALATIANS‬ ‭5:4‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Paul is not saying we may live a sinful or lawless lifestyle and expect to be saved by simply believing in Christ. He is saying we are not justified (made right with God) by our obedience to the law. Now notice what Paul says later in the very same chapter

“But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.”
‭‭GALATIANS‬ ‭5:16-25‬ ‭NASB‬‬

The “deeds of the flesh” Paul refers to are forbidden by God’s commandments and also by the Mosaic Law. If a person is living this type of lifestyle they will not enter the kingdom of God.

James is not finished with his message in James 2 at verse 10. He goes on to say...

“For He who said, " DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," also said, " DO NOT COMMIT MURDER." Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty. For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment.”
‭‭JAMES‬ ‭2:11-13‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Here James says to speak and act in accordance with the law and expresses the urgency of mercy towards others. He is not saying to disregard the law because if you try to keep the law and are guilty of breaking one law your guilty of breaking the entire law. That’s not his point here. He’s saying not to be partial towards some who break the law but not to others. He’s addressing unfair judgement towards poor or less fortunate people. He is not telling anyone to disregard the law.

I take that you mean any one who commits any of those acts isn't a Christian. I think the Scripture implies practices (has a life style) not a single slip isn't a Christian. 1 JN 1:9.

 

[ace of hearts]

Yes, because they don't believe. You are right, we are not under the Sinaitic covenant.

Then you have no issue. and are only arguing.

 

[Tone]

Luk_16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

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And when was/is Messiah until?

 

[Tone]

Then you have no issue. and are only arguing.

Oh, I'm arguing...?

 

[ace of hearts]

The apostles were Messianic Jews. Let me explain. The term messianic Jew simply means a Jew who believes that Jesus is the Messiah. He is a Christian. The apostles were Jews, Paul was a Pharisee who believed in Jesus this making him and all the other apostles Messianic Jews.

Maybe you can get some people to believe that line.

 

[Tone]

Act_11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.



Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

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The disciples of Who? (Deja Vu)

 

[ace of hearts]

Why just visit, why not set the captives free as He did (and does)?

Luke 4:18
"The Spirit of THE LORD JEHOVAH is upon me, and because of this he has anointed me to preach The Good News to the poor; he has sent me to heal broken hearts and to proclaim liberty to captives, vision to the blind, and to restore the crushed with forgiveness,”

Because I've no desire to be imprisoned.

 

[ace of hearts]

I agree.

I don't think you agree because you preach the law is a requirement.

 

[Tone]

Because I've no desire to be imprisoned.

Sounds like you are dealing with irrational fear. Are you sure you don't fear the law?

 

[Tone]

I don't think you agree because you preach the law is a requirement.

Are you just going to accuse me of that or will you present your case?

 

[ace of hearts]

Are you saying that I have expressed a desire to be under the law?

I think that's a correct assessment.

 

[Tone]

I think that's a correct assessment.

Who's arguing?

 

[ace of hearts]

Are you equating Hagar with Torah? Hagar is not Torah.

Right Hagar is a woman.

 

[ace of hearts]

The Torah says much more before and after those verses.

It certainly does. That simply isn't the subject of the OP.