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What commandments is Jesus talking about?

Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by ace of hearts, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. ace of hearts

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    What commandments is Jesus talking about in -

    Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
     
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  2. HTacianas

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    Jesus said to the young man:

    [​IMG]Mar 10:19 - Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

    I'm sure that is not an exhaustive list, but it's a start. We would have to go through the entirety of the new testament to list them all.
     
  3. JackRT

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    What an excellent question! A great many Christians would immediately refer one or the other of the three versions of the ten commandments(Exodus 34:1-28, Exodus 20:1-17, Deuteronomy 5:1-21).
    Jesus taught respect for much of Jewish law but when asked which commandments to obey, he says, “And Jesus said, ‘You shall not murder; you shall not commit adultery; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness. Honor your father and mother. Also, you shall love your neighbor as yourself.’” Matthew 19:17-19 (NRSV). A parallel telling of the Six Commandments exchange is found at Mark 10:17-23. This has led some to propose posting the Six Commandments as a sensible compromise. For many Christians, one of the most important crystallizations of Jesus' teachings came in response to a question about which is the greatest commandment (Matthew 22:36-40). In that text, a man asked Jesus, "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?" and Jesus responded, "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."

    I also am particularly fond of Micah 6:6 With what shall I come before the Lord, And bow myself before the High God? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings, With calves a year old? 7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, Ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, The fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does the Lord require of you But to do justly, To love mercy, And to walk humbly with your God.
     
  4. ewq1938

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    The commandments Jesus gave.

    Joh 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
    Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
     
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  5. LoveGodsWord

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    Love is not separated from God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments). It is expressed through them.

    ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS OF LOVE HANG ALL THE LAW


    How can you separate the two great commandments of LOVE to God and man from the Ten Commandments when Jesus says they are connected to LOVE?

    Jesus is quoting from Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18 of the OLD TESTAMENT BTW.

    Let's look at the scriptures in detail.

    MATTHEW 22:36-40
    [36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    [37], Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
    [38], This is the first and great commandment.
    [39], And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
    [40], On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    Notice the question above asked of Jesus. Now notice the same question asked of Jesus below...

    MATTHEW 19:16-19
    [16], And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
    [17], And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.
    [18], He said to him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness,
    [19], Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

    Similar question is asked of Jesus but look at the answers Jesus quoting from Deut 6:5 and Lev 19:18 says that on the two great commandments of LOVE HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets. The rich young ruler comes to Jesus asking what must he DO to inherit eternal life? Jesus quotes back 6 of the 10 Commandments summed up as "You shall love your neighbor as yourself" [On these two Commandments of LOVE hang all the LAW and the prophets.

    Now lets look at the same question from a Lawyer (someone who knows the OT laws)..

    LUKE 10:25-28
    [25], And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tested him, saying, Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
    [26], He said unto him, what is written in the law? how read you?
    [27], And he [the Lawyer] answering said, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.
    [28], And he said unto him, you have answered right: this do, and you shall live.

    Now take note; The very same questions were asked Jesus but both were answered in a slightly different way. Same question one was answered by Jesus quoting the 10 Commandments and the other was answered by the Lawyer quoting the two great commandments of LOVE from the OLD Testament scriptures in Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18. It is the two great commandments of LOVE quoted from the OLD TESTAMENT known to Pharisees and experts in the OLD Testament laws that sum up God's 10 commandments as expressed as our duty of LOVE to GOD (first 4) and our fellow man (second 6) and is why Jesus says in MATTHEW 22:40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets...

    PAUL understood what JESUS was talking about...

    ROMANS 13:8-10
    [8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore, love is the fulfilling of the law.

    Notice what PAUL says here? LOVE is fulfilling [doing] God's Commandments. God's Commandments or duty towards your neighbor is summed up as you shall LOVE your neighbor as yourself v9. [On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets Matthew 22:40].

    PAUL agrees with Jesus that if you LOVE you will fulfill God's LAW. What about JAMES?

    JAMES 2:8-12
    [8] If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, You shall love your neighbor as yourself, you do well: [9], But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convicted of the law as transgressors. [10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. [11], For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law. [12], So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

    James is using the second great commandment of LOVE and quotes the commandments showing our duty towards our neighbor. This is why Jesus says “On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets” Matthew 22:40. and again..

    JOHN 14:15 [15], IF YOU LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.

    You cannot separate LOVE from God’s LAW. Love is the FULFILLING of it and is demonstrated by OBEDIENCE to Gods’ LAW as our duty of LOVE to God and man. [“On these two commandments [of LOVE] hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets]

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    CONCLUSION: It is very clear that JESUS, PAUL and JAMES are all in agreement that the two GREAT COMMANDMENTS of LOVE that JESUS quoted from Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18 were used and known in the OLD Testament scripture to sum up our duty of LOVE to God and man in the 10 Commandments.... God's LAW (Ten commandments) is not separated from LOVE it demonstrates it. You cannot have LOVE without fulfilling God's Ten Commandments. [On these two Commandments of LOVE hang all the LAW and the prophets].

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    If God's LAW is not establsihed in your life you do not have living faith and need to be Born again *1 JOHN 3:3-10; 1 JOHN 2:1-4; JOHN 3:3-8; JAMES 2:18-20; 26.

    We are not saved by keeping the law. Obedience to God's LAW is the very expression of what LOVE is as we have faith in God's WORD *EPHESIANS 2:8; ROMANS 3:31 and is why JESUS says IF you LOVE me keep my commandments *JOHN 14:15. It is faith the works by LOVE that fulfills God's LAW in those who are born again *ROMANS 13:8-10; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; ROMANS 3:31.

    Let's have a look at the scriptures in detail brother...

    LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF GOD’S LAW

    ROMANS 13:8-10
    [8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore, love is the fulfilling of the law.

    You cannot separate God’s Law of love from the 10 commandments because they are connected to each other. There is no need for confusion here. God’s Word makes it very clear.

    I think you miss the point of LOVE and how you cannot separate LOVE from OBEDIENCE to God's LAW because God's 10 Commandments are the very expression of what LOVE is.

    * If you LOVE your neighbore will you steal from them?
    * If you LOVE your neighbore will you lie to them?
    * If you LOVE your neighbore will you kill them?

    etc etc...

    *If you LOVE God will you have other God's?
    *If you LOVE God will you make other God's and bow down to them?
    *If you LOVE God will you use his name in vain?
    *If you LOVE God will you choose to not remember the SEVENTH DAY to keep it Holy?

    We can go through all the 10 Commandments which are our duty of LOVE to GOD and our fellow man and how LOVE is expressed and why JESUS says...

    ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS (Love to God and Love to man) HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40

    ROMANS 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yes, we establish the law.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  6. Jonaitis

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    His law and teachings.
     
  7. psalm911

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    Everything Jesus commanded in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John: and just as all the law is fulfilled by loving your neighbor as your self, so is the commandments of Christ. Which is the reason he said to love one another as he loved the brethren. The commandments he gave is fulfilled by love.

    I will help you with your confusion in regards to the work of God. The first work is to believe on Christ, and by faith you are then baptized in the name of Jesus and by one with the Spirit of Jesus into the body of Christ: this is the new birth, born from the dead. Then after, being in the person of Christ, the old man being dead through baptism you then being a child of God fulfill the commandments of Christ and Christ gets the glory: seeing that you are DEAD. Not sure if you can understand these things but if you can, then eat.
     
  8. Kenny'sID

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    Why would anyone assume he doesn't mean the 10 commandments?
     
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  9. psalm911

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    Then Christ who fulfilled the Law died for nothing!
     
  10. Kenny'sID

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    Please be more specific. Also, if you would, please, tell us what commandments answers the OP's question?
     
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  11. Oscarr

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    The problem is trying to compile a list of commandments and attempting to keep them in our own strength. All that does is to lead to being a religious, self-righteous, lost sinner still subject to the wrath of God and a future in hell.

    A genuinely converted believer will seek to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and will allow the Holy Spirit to work holiness in him. He seeks the Holy Spirit to reveal all known sin in his life, and then confesses them one by one until his accounting with God is up to date. Then he asks the Holy Spirit to work sanctification in him and then follows the Spirit's directions as they come to him.

    He refuses to have any trust in his own ability to sanctify himself by trying to follow a set of commandments in the flesh, and trusts completely in Christ to work holiness and sanctification in him.
     
  12. Tone

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    It's pretty easy to answer when you understand Who He Is...
     
  13. psalm911

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    The commandments are all the commandments of Christ in the books of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. To say Christians need to keep the law of Moses is to say Christ did not fulfill the law when he died: all the law is fulfilled in this saying, you shall love your neighbor as your self: Greater love have no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

    When a man is baptized into Christ, he is baptized into his resurrection. And so being in the person of Christ, he is dead to the law by the body of Christ that was crucified: then he is to fulfill the commandments of Christ in the person of Christ and Christ gets the glory.
     
  14. Tone

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    "I am dead to the Law" does not mean either that the Law is dead or that I have no resonsibility to obey the Law. It means "I am dead as far as the Law is concerned." The Law requires sinners to be executed, but in the believer's case, since Christ is executed on our behalf, the death sentance has already been executed: justice is preserved in the court of God while the believer is set free.

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    In the Bible it is written, " For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God." (Gal 2:19) What does it mean to be "dead to the law?"

    As with any text of scripture, it is good to look at the larger context. The verses preceding this text are very helpful.


    • 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
      16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but
      by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
      that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works
      of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
      17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are
      found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
      18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a
      transgressor
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    The immediate context, particularly verse 16, suggests that Paul is addressing legalism, the idea that justification, or being declared perfectly righteous before God, can be attained merely by human effort and obedience. Paul is clearly stating that justification is by faith and not by works; justification does not come by our effort and obedience. We can't get there from here merely by trying our best.

    However, in saying this, Paul is careful to not throw out works, or obedience, or trying altogether: though works are not the ground of justification, Paul maintains that obedience to the Law is still important. He makes this plain in verse 17 when he asks, "Is therefore Christ the minister of sin?" Paul addresses the natural concern that arises in the context of justification by faith: if we can be declared righteous without regard to our obedience, is Christ then promoting or encouraging sin, the violation of God's Law? (1 John 3:4) Paul is emphatic that this is not the case. "God forbid." In other words, Paul is maintaining that justification is by faith and not by works, and he is also saying that Christ does not encourage sin: Christ still requires and expects obedience to the Law. Both concepts are true."

    Dead to the Law
     
  15. 1stcenturylady

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    John wrote that, and John tells us His commandments in 1 John 3:23
     
  16. Kenny'sID

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    Then all we need do is assume, if the Holy Spirit did not reveal it, it must not be sin. Something many will simply pretend it wasn't revealed so they can commit their sin without concern.

    Due to the nature of people, your way there is a recipe for deluding ones self, and will almost certainly be used that way, making it also a recipe for disaster.

    That's why we have commandments and many other clarifications in the bible on what is damnable sin. That way any confusion/delusion we might try to create is done away with.
     
  17. 1stcenturylady

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    The Ten Commandments is the First Covenant - Exodus 34:28. They are the ministry of death, engraved on stone. 2 Corinthians 3:7-11. We are in the New Covenant. No where in the Ten Commandments is there anything about believing in the name of Jesus, the major commandment of Jesus. He also commanded us to love one another, so if you want to know what John meant, go to his epistle 1 John 3:23.

    23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
     
  18. psalm911

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    If you can't understand what I wrote nor care to then it is not for you.
     
  19. Oscarr

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    I may not have made myself completely understood. I meant that we confess all known sin in our lives when we first receive Christ as Saviour, and because there may be sins that we have forgotten or pushed far into our subconscious, we ask the Holy Spirit to reveal sins that He can see that need to be confessed. Because the human heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, we need the assistance of the Holy Spirit to get into the dark corners and hook those hidden sins out so they can be confessed and forsaken. Unless we do that, we cannot say that we are genuinely converted.
     
  20. 1stcenturylady

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    @psalm911 and @Tone

    The reason we are "dead to the law" is because the law showed us our SIN, and Jesus takes away our sin nature and makes us new creatures that are no longer in the flesh but in the Spirit, Romans 8:9; Romans 6:2 we are dead to sin.

    The law was the ministry of death. The New Covenant is the ministry of the Spirit.

    Romans 8:There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
     
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