Revelation in order?

LittleLambofJesus

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LittleLambofJesus said:
Glad you brought that up...........
What about this verse? ;)
[In fact, this is the first time I ever noticed John 11:48 was the 1 and only place in the Gospels "romans" is used........
This is mind blowing!]
Do you remember the question big guy? Where is Rome found in any verse of END-TIME PROPHECY?
Ahhh, thanks for quoting it.
Perhaps it will help the OP out with seeing 1st century Jerusalem and Rome in Revelation. I figured it would fly over your head.

That pretty much put another very large piece of the divine jigsaw puzzle together for me.........

I'll wait for the OP to respond to my posts.......

Good night all............

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What do you think ground is? You're really going overboard.

Arah comes from eretz

776 'erets eh'-rets from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):--X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.
I’m just scared of the mark...being tricked into getting it.
Im just scared it’s a biometric ID card or Sunday worship or cell phone or passport or getting chipped against my will...
It’s so frightening that I want to cry
But the Antichrist has to appear first right then the false prophet right?
 
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Ahhh, thanks for quoting it.
Perhaps it will help the OP out with seeing 1st century Jerusalem and Rome in Revelation. I figured it would fly over your head.

That pretty much put another very large piece of the divine jigsaw puzzle together for me.........

I'll wait for the OP to respond to my posts.......

Good night all............

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I’m just scared of the mark...being tricked into getting it.
Im just scared it’s a biometric ID card or Sunday worship or cell phone or passport or getting chipped against my will...
It’s so frightening that I want to cry
But the Antichrist has to appear first right then the false prophet right?
 
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LittleLambofJesus

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Christians tend to see what fits their preconceived ideas.
The typical Christian is unwilling to change their mind
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QFT! I couldn't have said it better myself.

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But the Antichrist has to appear first right then the false prophet right?

Basically yes. There will be a claim of being God and so you will want to refuse any mark or basically anything from anyone supporting that false god.
 
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I’m just scared of the mark...being tricked into getting it.
Im just scared it’s a biometric ID card or Sunday worship or cell phone or passport or getting chipped against my will...
It’s so frightening that I want to cry
But the Antichrist has to appear first right then the false prophet right?
Ummm, if I may respectfully ask, what does that have to do with the topic of this thread? Revelation in order.
I could help you find threads concerning the chip and Id.............


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Bipolargirl said:
I’m just scared of the mark...being tricked into getting it.
Im just scared it’s a biometric ID card or Sunday worship or cell phone or passport or getting chipped against my will...
It’s so frightening that I want to cry
But the Antichrist has to appear first right then the false prophet right?
Well, I started this thread and it’s far away from my original post so...
Here are a few threads.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chi...R6wKHe_kC3MQrQIoBDAAegQICRAM&biw=1366&bih=626

Is the mark a computer chip? | Christian Forums

https://www.christianforums.com › ... › Faith Groups › Spirit-Filled / Charismatic

Feb 19, 2012 - 20 posts - ‎12 authors
Hello:) My last church said the Mark of the Beast will be a computer chip with three sets of six digit numbers, a chip implanted under the skin ...

Is the RFID Chip the Mark of the Beast? | Christian Forums

https://www.christianforums.com › ... › Christian Communities › Non-denominational

Apr 11, 2013 - 20 posts - ‎9 authors
I'm sure you've heard about these chips, they go in your dominant hand or your forehead (as said in the bible). What are your thoughts?

Microchip Implants | Christian Forums

https://www.christianforums.com › ... › Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum

Feb 3, 2010 - 20 posts - ‎5 authors
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that ...

A chip that can change your DNA 666 ? | Christian Forums

https://www.christianforums.com/.../a-chip-that-can-change-your-dna-666.7672683/

Jul 15, 2012 - 9 posts - ‎5 authors
A new chip has been discovered , that can alter a persons dna, mark of the beast ? shared about by LA Marzulli you tube, The mark of the...

Are microchip implants the mark of the beast? | Christian Forums

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Aug 20, 2017 - 20 posts - ‎4 authors
I have heard this a lot in Revelations and saw some YouTube videos concerning microchips having to do with the mark of the beast.

WAKE UP WAKE UP the CHIP IS COMING | Christian Forums

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Jul 26, 2017 - 13 posts - ‎4 authors
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the ... Now here is the consequences of those that get this chip implant"

Are RFID chips really the Mark of the Beast? (video) | Christian ...

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Jan 2, 2017 - 20 posts - ‎1 author
The problem is that the mark is only 1 of 3 different things that can identify someone as belonging to the beast so there is no one certain thing.

mark in 10 years?? | Christian Forums

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Mark of the beast?? Britain Could Be a 'Chip' Society Soon CBN News November 2, 2006 CBNNews.com - British citizens could be...

Microchipping pets | Christian Forums

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Mar 18, 2010 - 19 posts - ‎12 authors
Even if the chips were the mark, which again I don't know, but I don't believe animals can go to a hell. They are without law so imo without sin.

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leave money and to use the rfid chip implant as "means of payment", people will not be able to buy and sell without it, this is called the MARK ...



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I’m not sure I understand ...what do you mean voluntarily...isn’t it supposed to be get mark or die?

Well, it says "so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name" (Revelation 13:17).

But either this has already happened yet or it is in the future and a bunch of other stuff has to happen first.

People frequently talk about a bunch of things that's here now (like driver's licenses). None of those things is the "mark," because the other stuff hasn't happened yet.
 
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Here's some comfort to those fretting over the Mark of the Beast.

The first SIGN I have found that needs to happen is the appearance of 10 KINGS that rule over a global government. As far as I can tell - NOTHING can happen until these 10 KINGS are in place ruling over the whole earth. Here's the scripture:

Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This scripture is describing the rise of the Anti-Christ and we see that there are first 10 Kings ruling prior to the Anti-Christ taking over. These 10 Kings are described as 10 horns on the Beast, they are all serving the final Beast Kingdom. In today's world I see this as being something like the United Nations having 10 world leaders ruling over the 10 regions of the earth. This would be some time in the future when the United Nations has become even more established and more powerful. This is what I am looking out for - the United Nations changing its structure to 10 Permanent Members - and this is indeed on the UN agenda. They are also setting up a UN parliament right now - so I see the United Nations as being the Beast Empire of Daniel and Revelations. The Mark of the Beast come AFTER the Anti-Christ is revealed and conquers 3 of the 10 Kings. As far as I can tell it will be like a nation somewhere on the earth will have a leader arise and go to war against 3 of the 10 Kings. This will be the Anti-Christ and he will conquer the 3 Kings. This will give him power over the United Nations, he will become the leader of the United Nations and take it over. Then he will set up his image in the temple in Jerusalem and go to war against the saints full force with the Mark of the Beast.

If you consider that 10 Kings are first needed to be in place and look at the geopolitical world right now - you can see it's probably gonna be a while yet until all this starts...... but of course not too far away.

Hope that helped someone. Note I don't really want to argue with people about stuff, I'm just throwing this out there for whoever it might help.
 
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Here's some comfort to those fretting over the Mark of the Beast.

The first SIGN I have found that needs to happen is the appearance of 10 KINGS that rule over a global government. As far as I can tell - NOTHING can happen until these 10 KINGS are in place ruling over the whole earth. Here's the scripture:

Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This scripture is describing the rise of the Anti-Christ and we see that there are first 10 Kings ruling prior to the Anti-Christ taking over. These 10 Kings are described as 10 horns on the Beast, they are all serving the final Beast Kingdom. In today's world I see this as being something like the United Nations having 10 world leaders ruling over the 10 regions of the earth. This would be some time in the future when the United Nations has become even more established and more powerful. This is what I am looking out for - the United Nations changing its structure to 10 Permanent Members - and this is indeed on the UN agenda. They are also setting up a UN parliament right now - so I see the United Nations as being the Beast Empire of Daniel and Revelations. The Mark of the Beast come AFTER the Anti-Christ is revealed and conquers 3 of the 10 Kings. As far as I can tell it will be like a nation somewhere on the earth will have a leader arise and go to war against 3 of the 10 Kings. This will be the Anti-Christ and he will conquer the 3 Kings. This will give him power over the United Nations, he will become the leader of the United Nations and take it over. Then he will set up his image in the temple in Jerusalem and go to war against the saints full force with the Mark of the Beast.

If you consider that 10 Kings are first needed to be in place and look at the geopolitical world right now - you can see it's probably gonna be a while yet until all this starts...... but of course not too far away.

Hope that helped someone. Note I don't really want to argue with people about stuff, I'm just throwing this out there for whoever it might help.
These 10 Kings arise out of the Fourth Beast, just like the Little Horn, so they arise out of the footprint of the Old Roman Empire. Not the U.N. or anything global.

Dan. 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

So they 10 Horns/Kings arise out of the Fourth Beast/E.U. so we know who it is.
 
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Glad you brought that up...........
What about this verse? ;)
[In fact, this is the first time I ever noticed John 11:48 was the 1 and only place in the Gospels "romans" is used........
This is mind blowing!]

romans
"romans" occurs 6 times in 6 verses in the NKJV.

Little did they know that 40yrs later, it would become reality........

John 11:48
If-ever we should be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him and shall be coming<ἐλεύσονται 2064> the Romans
and they shall be taking away of Us and the Place and the Nation.

48 ἐὰν ἀφῶμεν αὐτὸν οὕτως, πάντες πιστεύσουσιν εἰς αὐτόν, καὶ ἐλεύσονται οἱ Ῥωμαῖοι
καὶ ἀροῦσιν ἡμῶν καὶ τὸν τόπον καὶ τὸ ἔθνος.

I decided to look up where the exact form of #2064 was used and behold!
The famous 70ad Jerusalem/Temple Discourse.

Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized

Luk 21:6 -
“These things which you see—the days shall be coming/<ἐλεύσονται 2064> in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.”

That makes Revelation 6:6 look more and more like 70ad Jerusalem and Rome.......

Matthew 24:19
But woe to those that are with child, and those that give suck in those days.
Mark 13:17
But woe to those that are with child and to those that give suck in those days!
Luke 21:23
But woe to them that are with child and to them who give suck in those days,
for there shall be great distress upon the land and wrath upon this people.

This denotes the famine that came upon 70ad Jerusalem during the siege:

Revelation 6:6
And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "choinex of grain/wheat a denari and three choinex of barleys a denari,
and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring"."

Revelation 9:6
And in those days the men shall seeking the death, and not no shall be finding it;
and they shall be desiring/yearning to be dying, and the death is fleeing from them.

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive. The Jews, for of food were at length compelled to eat their belts, their sandals, the skins of their shields, dried grass, and even the ordure of oxen.

In the depth or this horrible extremity, a Jewess of noble family urged by the intolerable cravings of hunger, slew her infant child, and prepared it for a meal ; and had actually eaten one half thereof, when the soldiers,
At the recital of this melancholy and affecting occurrence, the whole city stood aghast, and poured forth their congratulations on those whom death had hurried away from such heartrending scenes.

Jer 19:9
“And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters,
and everyone shall eat the flesh of his friend in the siege and in the desperation with which their enemies
and those who seek their lives shall drive them to despair.” '
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I was already somewhat familiar with the first Jewish Revolt and its parallels to the book of Revelation. These videos reminded me of a couple things, like the Romans burning up the trees and vegetation around the city, reminiscent of Revelation 8:7.

Good post.

Just a couple of examples of the repetitiveness I see at a glance.

Upon opening the first seal (6:3), we see Rome, the victor on a white horse after conquering the Judean hinterlands. Upon blowing the first trumpet (8:7), we see Rome again, clearing the vegetation, preparing to conquer again.

Another easy repetition (or that's easy to explain). When we see the third horse, we see famine and the rationing of provisions. The third trumpet shows us rancid water sources (8:10), and so we surmise a consequent depletion of food.
 
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