Revelation in order?

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A mountain mortally wounded with a sword?

Yes. Remember we aren't talking a real animal with 7 heads. We must understand symbolism. A mountain is land and a sword represents war so in one of the areas of land of this beast kingdom there was a terrible war but peace was restored which is part of the process of healing from a "wound" like Germany rebuilding after WW2.
 
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Those are not the 7 heads of the Rev 13:1 beast government because none of it's heads are fallen. You are confusing the heads/mountains of that global empire with the mention of 7 kingdoms, 5 had fallen in Johns time, one was falling, and there was one more yet to come with an 8th king to be of the 7th.

Never confuse the Rev 13:1's heads with the mention of the 7 kings/kingdoms of the past and future.
They are the exact same Kingdoms, in Rev. 17 God says they are 7 heads then he reduces them to Kings who fall because the LAST BEAST is a one man show, that is why he reduces the Kingdoms to Kings who fall. You just don't see it brother.

The 7 Heads and 10 Horns ARE NOT the same !! ........ come on man !!

The only thing that's not the same is who is DESIGNATED in each chapter. The CROWNS tell the story. Rev. 12 is the Dragon/Satan thus the Crowns are on the 7 Heads. In Rev. 13 the Beast is over the 10 Horns/Kings thus the CROWNS are on the Horns. In Rev. 17 the Scarlet Colored Beast has NO CROWNS because Satan is over Apollyon, the Beast that is in the Abyss at this moment. When he is released he will eventually kill the Two-witnesses.

The Seven Heads are always BEASTS OVER Israel. The Dragon/Satan gives them their POWER, read Luke 4, when Satan offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world if he would just bow down and worship him, he pointed out that ALL OF THIS IS MINE TO DO WHAT I WILL WITH !!

The Anti-Christ is the End Time Beast [Last Beast Head]. Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast HINT: The Prince of Persia was Apollyon also, he was placed over the Mediterranean Sea Region by Satan, thus he is the 8th King and is OF THE SEVEN.

It's about BEASTING OVER ISRAEL, not the whole world per se.
 
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I know it's difficult for you to admit there's NOT one verse of prophecy implicating Rome, but hey, how often do most Christians admit their mistakes

"Five fall" is the correct translation
. Have you looked at the Textus Receptus? The words HAVE, HAD, ARE, and FALLEN are NOT there!

No Hermeneutic, no truth.
I agree........What do you think of this translation?
I tried to put the verses in some kind of order as the OP requested...........

Revelation in order?
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Used 2 times in Gospels:

This is a pretty awesome event:

Mat 17:6 -
And the disciples having heard, fall upon their face, and were exceedingly afraid,
Jhn 18:6 -
when, therefore, he said to them -- 'I am he,'
they went away backward, and fall to the ground.

REVELATION

Rev 5:
8 And when he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fall before the Lamb,
having each one harps and golden vials full of perfumes, which are the prayers of the saints,
14 and the four living creatures said, 'Amen!'
and the twenty-four elders fall and they bow before Him who is living to the ages of the ages.
Rev 7:11 -
And all the messengers stood around the throne, and the elders and the four living creatures,
and they fall upon their face, and bowed before God,
Rev 11:16 -
and the twenty and four elders, who before God are sitting upon their thrones,
fall upon their faces, and did bow before God

Rev 17:10 -
and seven kings they are being,
the five fall,
the one is being,
the other not as yet came,
and whenever he may be coming, short time him it is binding to remain


Rev 6:13 -
and the stars of the heaven fall to the earth --
as a fig-tree doth cast her winter figs, by a great wind being shaken --

Rev 16:19 -
And it came -- the great city -- into three parts, and the cities of the nations fall,
and Babylon the great
was remembered before God, to give to her the cup of the wine of the wrath of His anger,

Rev 19:4 -
And fall did the elders -- the twenty and four -- and the four living creatures,
and they did bow before God who is sitting upon the throne, saying,
'Amen, Alleluia.'


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Everyone else WITHIN THE 10/7 ALLIANCE OF Islamic KINGS AND/OR NATIONS.

This is a religious mark imposed by the false prophet. Imposing this mark is only possible within Islam.

Suicide bombers are found here too....
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The OP ask if Revelation could be put in order, not for your own personal rather bizarre interpretations.
do you think the book of revelation is written in order?
The book of revelation is confusing to me.

I gave you a link earlier where you could post that suicide bomber nonsense.


Islamic eschatology and 2012



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Everyone else WITHIN THE 10/7 ALLIANCE OF Islamic KINGS AND/OR NATIONS.

This is a religious mark imposed by the false prophet. Imposing this mark is only possible within Islam.


There isn't??? They are found in Revelation 9. In the OT locust represent the Arabs.

And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.


That's not suicide bombers.

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.


The locust aren't even allowed to kill anyone.


Suicide bombers are found here too....

Obviously not.
 
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You need to explain how the Medo-Persian empire was 'land inferior' to Babylon. You can't because it was 3-4 times the size of Babylon.
I don't think inferior has anything to do with the size of the kingdoms, but the splendor of the buildings and cities. Babylon was greater.
 
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That's not suicide bombers.

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.


The locust aren't even allowed to kill anyone.

Suicide bombers are found here too....

Obviously not.
Have you seen their training schools?

Why Are There No Christian Suicide Bombers?

Why Are There No Christian Suicide Bombers?


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I used to like debating Muslims [and sometimes Jews]some years back.

Can Muhammad and Paul be buddies

Hi. Will Muhammad and the Apostle Paul both be in heaven and will they ever become buddies at the "End"? Do all Muslims reject the dear friend of Jesus and did he ever say anything bad about Jesus that the Muslims would despise him? Thanks.

http://www.whyislam.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16255&PN=2

No, Muhamamd pbuh did not copy Paul. What was said by Muhammad pbuh was from Allah swt.

Just for Laurieann--Muslims do not consider any verse in the Qur'an to quote the Bible, not a single one. Every letter in the Qur'an was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad pbuh, from God. Muslims acknowledge that God revealed Scripture before the Qur'an, and some of that does appear in the Bible. The same source is God. It's a common error to say that the Qur'an uses the Bible as a source, when in fact, it's more correct to say that the Qur'an totally and the Bible partially are directly from God, the same source. So naturally, there are similarities.

And I don't think this verse is the only one of Paul's that coincides with Islamic theory. Overall, the theology of Paul is totally denounced by the Qur'an and hadith. If you strip it down to the basics, essentially it's rejected. But Paul wasn't completely off base. Do you know why? Because he was Jewish, studying in the Jewish tradition, and had come from a religion that was very knowledgeable about previous scriptures--that influenced his writing. That is to say, his knowledge of Jewish texts that had been previously revealed by God was extensive, and had a strong impact on his new Christian theology.

Muslims while denouncing the changes he affected with his new doctrine, would naturally accept many of the premises on which he built it--because they are Jewish in nature, and based on the Torah and the Psalms.
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I've heard all sorts of OTHER things about what inferior means. Too many to mention. It's not difficult. But people would rather fabricate than accept the truth.

I'm going to say it again and as many times I have to.

Inferior is the word ARA and that means EARTH, WORLD, and GROUND coupled with the word below/inferior.

In both Greek and Hebrew inferior means,
to make less,
inferior,
to fall short,
below
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Please tell us what that has to do with the topic of this thread......
do you think the book of revelation is written in order?
The book of revelation is confusing to me.

.I could go head to head with you on the greek and hebrew........



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I've heard all sorts of OTHER things about what inferior means. Too many to mention. It's not difficult. But people would rather fabricate than accept the truth.

I'm going to say it again and as many times I have to.

Inferior is the word ARA and that means EARTH, WORLD, and GROUND coupled with the word below/inferior.

In both Greek and Hebrew inferior means,
to make less,
inferior,
to fall short,
below
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A lesser earthly kingdom. So what's the problem?

It doesn't mean lesser in size.

In terms of the splendor of the buildings and cities,Babylon was greater. Have you not heard of the hanging gardens of Babylon? Nebuchadnezzar spent 7 years insane for overrating himself in Babylon's kingdom, cities, buildings greatness, Daniel 4.
 
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They're all earthly kingdoms! The Medo-Persian empire wasn't inferior to Babylon in any way. NOW YOU'RE IN FABRICATION MODE!

The word means LAND, the word means LESS...LESS LAND!

Whatever you chose to believe Dougg.
earth - not land. A lesser earthly kingdom. The whole point is the series of earthly kingdoms will be replaced by the Kingdom of God.
 
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I’m just scared of the mark...being tricked into getting it.
Im just scared it’s a biometric ID card or Sunday worship or cell phone or passport or getting chipped against my will...
It’s so frightening that I want to cry
 
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I’m just scared of the mark...being tricked into getting it.
Im just scared it’s a biometric ID card or Sunday worship or cell phone or passport or getting chipped against my will...
It’s so frightening that I want to cry
The Antichrist has to appear first, right?
Then the false prophet appears to implement the mark right?
 
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