CAN YOU HAVE GOD'S GRACE WITHOUT GOD'S LAW?

[W2L]

Im bowing out, this is the strangest conversation i have ever had. Too strange for me.

 

[YeshuaFan]

But what role do the commands of the Lord and His apostles play? Were they not given to guide us into proper christian living and thinking?

Yes, but many try to rely upon the as means of salvation though...

 

[YeshuaFan]

Repent of what exactly? And how do we repent?

Repent of trying to get saved thru our own efforts and our good works!

 

[W2L]

Repent of trying to get saved thru our own efforts and our good works!

But there is still law in SkyWritings posts. He is saying the law of Christ is replaced by mans law. Is he trying to be saved by keeping mans law? No? Then why am i trying to be saved by keeping Christs law? Also, why are you referring to salvation? I already said im not referring to salvation in the least.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Repent of what exactly? And how do we repent?

Repent of our sinful nature.

 

[W2L]

Repent of our sinful nature.

I have, why would you assume otherwise? What charge to you make against me? What sin do you accuse me of?

 

[W2L]

For this is the love of God, that we keep mans law; and their laws are not burdensome.

 

[YeshuaFan]

Repent of our sinful nature.

We cannot change it though, as we need to have a new nature given to us by God!

 

[YeshuaFan]

I have, why would you assume otherwise? What charge to you make against me? What sin do you accuse me of?

God ONLY requires a lost sinner to receive thru faith Jesus as lord and be born again from above!

 

[W2L]

God ONLY requires a lost sinner to receive thru faith Jesus as lord and be born again from above!

But God wants me to obey mans law too, that is the assertion made that im refuting. Does mans law lead to eternal life?

 

[W2L]

You see how illogical that assertion is? Its bad to follow Gods commands but good to follow mans commands. Thats wrong.

 

[W2L]

The question im asking is not why we obey, but what we obey.

 

[YeshuaFan]

But God wants me to obey mans law too, that is the assertion made that im refuting. Does mans law lead to eternal life?

NO Law leads to eternal life!

 

[W2L]

NO Law leads to eternal life!

Ok, so why then is the law of Christ replaced by mans law?

 

[BNR32FAN]

I have, why would you assume otherwise? What charge to you make against me? What sin do you accuse me of?

No no my friend I’m not in any way referring to you.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Just because we are not justified by the law doesn’t mean we can disregard it all together and live a sinful life. We are to submit to God’s commandments and not live lawless lives.

 

[YeshuaFan]

Just because we are not justified by the law doesn’t mean we can disregard it all together and live a sinful life. We are to submit to God’s commandments and not live lawless lives.

We live in and by the Holy Spirit, and when we do that, He will have us obeying the law of God!

 

[W2L]

He will have us obeying the law of God!

Which is what exactly?

 

[YeshuaFan]

Which is what exactly?

The Moral aspects of the law given to God expressed in the 10 Commandments!

 

[BNR32FAN]

The Moral aspects of the law given to God expressed in the 10 Commandments!

Why only the 10 commandments? What about the rest of God’s commandments?