Just how close is Jesus return?

Paul of Eugene OR

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Why is that brother? It is a time of blessed hope we are called to look forward to.
Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

It just seems strange to write about hoping for tribulation. You can hope for the 2nd coming but not tribulation.

Of course I know you are really hoping for the second coming and your interpretation is that tribulation has to come first and so you're willing to have only for that reason.

And I might as well let you know that in my interpretation of scripture the church is undergoing tribulation in this world until the second coming, meaning we are in the tribulation now.

Its just that it seems wrong to hope for tribulation! People should not cause tribulation! That's wrong!
 
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I know no one will know the exact day.

Would it be an overestimate to say he won't come until another millennium? Or even 500 years?

I don't know when but I won't be surprised if he comes back 21st century. Maybe in a decade or 2. That's how close I believe his 2nd coming is.
Jesus will return at 3:30 PM. He will come riding a Silverado and, bearing gifts - specifically, an apple pie and a case of Coronas. Carlos will be with him, riding shotgun. Then we can eat the meal.
 
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It is all part of the same end of the world. It happens after the resurrection on the last day.

No. The sun goes dark prior to the second coming and resurrection. Did you actually read the scriptures I posted?
 
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It just seems strange to write about hoping for tribulation. You can hope for the 2nd coming but not tribulation.

Of course I know you are really hoping for the second coming and your interpretation is that tribulation has to come first and so you're willing to have only for that reason.

And I might as well let you know that in my interpretation of scripture the church is undergoing tribulation in this world until the second coming, meaning we are in the tribulation now.

Its just that it seems wrong to hope for tribulation! People should not cause tribulation! That's wrong!
I understand where you are coming brother, and you understand where I am coming from. So all we have left to do is wait and see which of us is correct in our belief.
 
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I understand where you are coming brother, and you understand where I am coming from. So all we have left to do is wait and see which of us is correct in our belief.

No you are wrong as usual.
 
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Joel 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

Matthew 24:29
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mark 13:24
But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Acts 2:20
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

Read the scriptures. The Sun is darkened BEFORE he comes.

It's all part of the second coming.
 
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The sun is darkened BEFORE he comes.
How about As he comes?

““But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. “And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. “And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” (Matthew 24:29–31) (NASB95)
 
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How about As he comes?

““But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. “And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. “And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” (Matthew 24:29–31) (NASB95)

The Sun is darkened first.
 
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Yes, but you have no idea how much time lapses between when the sun is darkened and the second coming.
The sun could not remain dark for too long. Everyone would freeze to death in hours if not minutes.
 
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