Petros2015
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Don't roast the babies.
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It is not an age brother. It is a mentality. Just as mentally handicapped people cannot be responsible for sin if they do not understand it.I would also like to believe that but, I don't think it can be found in the Bible?
Accountability age in the Bible just does not ring a bell?
M-Bob
John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.There is nothing in the Bible about Age of Accountability.
How is it possible God can know libertarian free will (LFW) decisions before they occur?
You said:So how did that answer this: When does an aborted infant's soul make a libertarian free will (LFW) decision for Christ? Premortem or postmortem or preexistence?
You said:Yes, i'm of the view that Scripture teaches universalism after the last one in "hell" has been saved. The Bible also teaches that there are a number of destinations, erroneously called "hell" (Hades, Tartarus, the lake of fire, etc), to avoid & the sufferings thereof. So this life is not meaningless. Furthermore, there are other reasons why this life has meaning, e.g.:
Eccl. 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.
Rom.11:32 For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.
Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
You said:Even if there was no postmortem hell, your own conscience tells you you should repent & do what is right & loving. Even also the consequences of sin in this life should motivate you to repent, to say nothing of loving your neighbour, doing him no harm & returning love to Love Omnipotent Crucified Who loved you more than life itself.
You said:If your faith is mature, are you motivated by fear:
1 Jn.4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment. The one who fears has not been perfected in love. 19 We love because He first loved us.
You said:Are those who profess Christ merely out of fear, i.e. for "fire insurance", even saved? Do they serve the Scriptural God Who is love, or a false god of fear? Such as Ra, Allah, & Molech, who are inventions of Satan?
You said:Jesus, our example to follow, had a heart of compassion that led Him to do good for others who were suffering:
Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
It is not an age brother. It is a mentality. Just as mentally handicapped people cannot be responsible for sin if they do not understand it.
I know because you are calvinist. Are you a 5 point?Well that sounds good and fair and that's what US people like fairness but, I do not question God and I cannot find those answers in the Bible.
M-Bob
How is it possible God can know libertarian free will (LFW) decisions before they occur?
So how did that answer this: When does an aborted infant's soul make a libertarian free will (LFW) decision for Christ? Premortem or postmortem or preexistence?
Yes, i'm of the view that Scripture teaches universalism after the last one in "hell" has been saved. The Bible also teaches that there are a number of destinations, erroneously called "hell" (Hades, Tartarus, the lake of fire, etc), to avoid & the sufferings thereof. So this life is not meaningless. Furthermore, there are other reasons why this life has meaning, e.g.:
Eccl. 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.
Rom.11:32 For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.
Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Even if there was no postmortem hell, your own conscience tells you you should repent & do what is right & loving. Even also the consequences of sin in this life should motivate you to repent, to say nothing of loving your neighbour, doing him no harm & returning love to Love Omnipotent Crucified Who loved you more than life itself.
If your faith is mature, are you motivated by fear:
1 Jn.4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment. The one who fears has not been perfected in love. 19 We love because He first loved us.
Are those who profess Christ merely out of fear, i.e. for "fire insurance", even saved? Do they serve the Scriptural God Who is love, or a false god of fear? Such as Ra, Allah, & Molech, who are inventions of Satan?
Jesus, our example to follow, had a heart of compassion that led Him to do good for others who were suffering:
Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
I know because you are calvinist. Are you a 5 point?
Lol, Yes I agree there. I feel that whatever God does is just and loving and fair always. Afterall love is the fulfillment :]I definitely lean towards Calvinism but, for what it's worth I consider myself a 90% calvinist whatever that is?
I claim to be not 100% in any man's camp trying my best to stick to the Bible.
M-Bob
How would we know that most would go to hell? If people would start going to church and living and raising their kids biblically again, Then the many would accept Christ and continue the trend.Why do Christians oppose abortion if babies go to heaven, and most will go to hell if they grow up?
This is ideal, but when have true believers ever been other than petty few?How would we know that most would go to hell? If people would start going to church and living and raising their kids biblically again, Then the many would accept Christ and continue the trend.
Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Why do Christians oppose abortion if babies go to heaven, and most will go to hell if they grow up?
Unfortunately the statistics don't look good for the future as more and more walk away and turn liberalThis is ideal, but when have true believers ever been other than petty few?
But how? How can something that knows NO sin, Become a disgrace to an all holy God??I believe babies can go to hell
I also believe babies can go to heaven
in situations like this I simply allow God to be sovereign and do as He sees fit.
I find it totally agreeable that one who believes anyone will literally burn in an oven and takes most of the bible as literal....would also believe that children will be there as well.....I don't believe that but I would be interested to know if there is anyone here who believes that.
We pray daily for little ones who die that they will be given the grace of baptism.I don't believe that but I would be interested to know if there is anyone here who believes that.