My heart is so hardened

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”Fear him who can throw body and soul into hell” Jesus

John heard those words spoken by Jesus and did not ignore them as you are doing.

Ignore them? No, i'm not.

According to the context the fear being spoken of is the fear of God's judgement:

God is love, and the one abiding in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 17In this, love has been perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment that, just as He is, also are we in this world.

18There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment; and the one fearing has not been perfected in love. 19We love because He first loved us.

Please note also that perfect love is referred to in both verses 17 & 18.

If you are still fearing "hell", you have not been "perfected in love" (1 Jn.4:17-19).

V.19 We love because He first loved us. Not because of a make-believe children's bed time horror fantasy.

Are those who profess Christ merely out of fear, i.e. for "fire insurance", even saved?

Do they serve the Scriptural God Who is love, or a false god of fear? Such as Ra, Allah, & Molech, who are inventions of Satan?

The Biblical kind of fear of God that a Christian should have is not a tormenting, paralyzing, destructive fear, but a reverential awe & respect:

"Definition: (a) fear, terror, alarm, (b) the object or cause of fear, (c) reverence, respect." https://biblehub.com/greek/5401.htm
 
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I have. I even witnessed to a guy about my faith and I was surprised that he listened to me and seemed interested. I want to do right by God and follow Him but there is a too late.

I just don't have any more promptings from the Holy Spirit. What a high price I paid for sin.

Do you love the Lord? Perhaps meeting with these saints will help:

"According to the present situation nearly all Christians know how to study, memorize, meditate, and search the Scriptures for knowledge, but very few know how to come to the Word of God to enjoy the Lord and to receive spiritual nourishment."

https://www.ministrybooks.org/books...26.1932546537.1506981643-144925405.1506981643

How to find a "local church" near you where they believe in & practice "enjoying the Lord":

https://www.localchurches.org/

All about the "local church":

http://localchurchesfaq.org/to-learn-more/
 
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Do you love the Lord? Perhaps meeting with these saints will help:

"According to the present situation nearly all Christians know how to study, memorize, meditate, and search the Scriptures for knowledge, but very few know how to come to the Word of God to enjoy the Lord and to receive spiritual nourishment."

https://www.ministrybooks.org/books...26.1932546537.1506981643-144925405.1506981643

How to find a "local church" near you where they believe in & practice "enjoying the Lord":

https://www.localchurches.org/

All about the "local church":

http://localchurchesfaq.org/to-learn-more/

I know that God is 100% good and there is nothing corrupt or even questionable about Him. However I don't FEEL love for Him presently. I just know that He is the source of all that is good and noble in this world. I know that the reason I feel empty is because I've walked away from the narrow path and now I am reaping what I have sowed. I want to FEEL love for Him but interestingly I can only do that with God's help as well.

Also I noticed that you talk about fear and Christians converting only for fear as being a false convert. While I can see where you're coming from, the part that makes me think I am not truly saved is because I have ZERO fear. I used to tremble at the thought of hell before I was converted. To me that's a good evidence that the Holy Spirit is convicting this person. Remember Jesus talked about hell more than heaven and even says, "Fear the God who can throw the body and soul in hell." I think there's a degree of fear that's good to have. After you get converted, that fear should go away as it did for me.

Maybe you can think of it like this: Even the best of us don't deserve to go to heaven, it's a mercy-ticket. Ok, your heart may be empty and hardened, but Christ still is your mercy-ticket, just like for the rest of us.
You are most welcome. It begins with 1 John 1:9 and believing it, brother. It's a promise verse. I pray you go to that verse tonight on your knees and cry out to God with all your might in the quite of your room. For in the Lord's prayer it states that we are to say to the Father (as a part of an outline), forgive us our debts (sin). God knows that we can struggle with sin. God knows that believers can fall into a life of sin for a while like the Prodigal Son. But God wants us back. Remember, when the Prodigal Son wanted to go back to his father, the Father did not instantly appear out of nowhere. The Prodigal Son had to go back home. We have to get deep into the things of God (within His Word). This is the place or home God wants us to reside. The spiritual treasures within His Word put deep within our hearts. It takes time to return back home sometimes. Just keep the faith and believe and you will then be able to rejoice with the Father in loving embrace.


I just hope that God can start convicting me of sin again. Back when I was a new Christian, I had CLEAR promptings from God and a general hatred of sin. This sense has completely disappeared. That's what makes me concerned about the authenticity of my repentance.
 
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I know that God is 100% good and there is nothing corrupt or even questionable about Him. However I don't FEEL love for Him presently. I just know that He is the source of all that is good and noble in this world. I know that the reason I feel empty is because I've walked away from the narrow path and now I am reaping what I have sowed. I want to FEEL love for Him but interestingly I can only do that with God's help as well.

Also I noticed that you talk about fear and Christians converting only for fear as being a false convert. While I can see where you're coming from, the part that makes me think I am not truly saved is because I have ZERO fear. I used to tremble at the thought of hell before I was converted. To me that's a good evidence that the Holy Spirit is convicting this person. Remember Jesus talked about hell more than heaven and even says, "Fear the God who can throw the body and soul in hell." I think there's a degree of fear that's good to have. After you get converted, that fear should go away as it did for me.

If you have no fear, what is drawing you away from sin (inappropriate content) & to Him?
 
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I too worry whether or not I have committed the sin of Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26-30. I have a beautiful, loving family and church. I have been a Christian all my life with good and loving parents and a God-loving grandmother. I find myself filled with apathy towards God and towards his children, I get easily annoyed and impatient. 1 Corinthians 13 says that love does not boast, is not easily angered, is patient and kind, etc. I ask God to help me love Him and His children. I ask Him to help me love what he loves and hate what he hates, but there is really no feeling of sorrow in me. Reading the Bible and going to church seems like more of a chore than a privilege. Is it possible for one to have a constant desire for God? I ask God to help me, like the psalmist say "Who have I in heaven but You? I desire You more than anything on earth." Is it that we are too focused on ourselves? We cannot make ourselves feel sorrow or joy.. it just comes spontaneously, and the more we try to feel it, the less we are able to.
Another verse that concerns me is the one that says "do not pretend to love others, really love them" Everything I do for God seems to be in vain. I read the Bible, go to church, and pray but it all feels like I'm just giving lip service and going through the motions. People may say, "well you're find because you're concerned about it, and if you weren't saved you wouldn't be concerned." But I ask myself, am I really seeking God or am I just seeking to be rescued from hell? Even when I look to verses of hope, I just take them for granted. I take God's love for granted. Let's pray for each other. We have to keep trying to believe that even in all the indifference, God can change us, and He will keep us from falling away.. right now, I'm struggling too.
 
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I too worry whether or not I have committed the sin of Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26-30. I have a beautiful, loving family and church. I have been a Christian all my life with good and loving parents and a God-loving grandmother. I find myself filled with apathy towards God and towards his children, I get easily annoyed and impatient. 1 Corinthians 13 says that love does not boast, is not easily angered, is patient and kind, etc. I ask God to help me love Him and His children. I ask Him to help me love what he loves and hate what he hates, but there is really no feeling of sorrow in me. Reading the Bible and going to church seems like more of a chore than a privilege. Is it possible for one to have a constant desire for God? I ask God to help me, like the psalmist say "Who have I in heaven but You? I desire You more than anything on earth." Is it that we are too focused on ourselves? We cannot make ourselves feel sorrow or joy.. it just comes spontaneously, and the more we try to feel it, the less we are able to.
Another verse that concerns me is the one that says "do not pretend to love others, really love them" Everything I do for God seems to be in vain. I read the Bible, go to church, and pray but it all feels like I'm just giving lip service and going through the motions. People may say, "well you're find because you're concerned about it, and if you weren't saved you wouldn't be concerned." But I ask myself, am I really seeking God or am I just seeking to be rescued from hell? Even when I look to verses of hope, I just take them for granted. I take God's love for granted. Let's pray for each other. We have to keep trying to believe that even in all the indifference, God can change us, and He will keep us from falling away.. right now, I'm struggling too.

Similar story to mine. I took God's love for granted, I took my family's love for granted, I took my church's love for granted. What a costly mistake. I feel the same as you. How long have you been like this?

If you have no fear, what is drawing you away from sin (inappropriate content) & to Him?

Mainly realizing how empty life is without God.
 
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When I was born again (in retrospect) it felt like some demon parasite was ripped off of my soul. I was into new age spiritualism and likely opened myself to that influence. Today in Christian radio I kept hearing about demons, specifically the demon Legion who knew Jesus and asked to be sent to the swine when it was commanded out. Earlier you wrote you think you have a demon which may be the only explanation. I wish I knew exactly what to suggest but sense you are on the verge of being freed.
 
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I just hope that God can start convicting me of sin again. Back when I was a new Christian, I had CLEAR promptings from God and a general hatred of sin. This sense has completely disappeared. That's what makes me concerned about the authenticity of my repentance.

This was before when you were close to God. This time it is a different situation. So I don't think you should wait for God to convict you of sin. I think you should confess your sin as per 1 John 1:9 and believe then that He has forgiven you. We have to take the first step in faith towards God and His Word, and then God moves in our life. That is what I think may be going on here. Let me know (by way of Private Chat) how things are going when you told God you are sorry for your sins. Ask for the Lord back in your seeking His forgiveness, too. Until then, you are just going to have an emptiness (Unless you confess and believe 1 John 1:9 with all your heart). God wants us to seek forgiveness with Him by faith. But we have to call out to Him because grievous sin separates us from God.
 
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Another verse that concerns me is the one that says "do not pretend to love others, really love them" Everything I do for God seems to be in vain. I read the Bible, go to church, and pray but it all feels like I'm just giving lip service and going through the motions. People may say, "well you're find because you're concerned about it, and if you weren't saved you wouldn't be concerned." But I ask myself, am I really seeking God or am I just seeking to be rescued from hell?
The best secular advice I ever got from a friend went something like "you think too much and worry a little too much about everything." Some of us are just so introverted we reason ourselves out of our own peace and joy. Maybe that's why some Christians try to de-emphasize 'feelings' as a gauge of our spiritual security. We can't always have those intense mountaintop moments and maybe feel disconnected when we can't sense His presence as intensely.
 
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Ignore them? No, i'm not.

According to the context the fear being spoken of is the fear of God's judgement:

God is love, and the one abiding in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 17In this, love has been perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment that, just as He is, also are we in this world.

18There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment; and the one fearing has not been perfected in love. 19We love because He first loved us.

Please note also that perfect love is referred to in both verses 17 & 18.

If you are still fearing "hell", you have not been "perfected in love" (1 Jn.4:17-19).

V.19 We love because He first loved us. Not because of a make-believe children's bed time horror fantasy.

Are those who profess Christ merely out of fear, i.e. for "fire insurance", even saved?

Do they serve the Scriptural God Who is love, or a false god of fear? Such as Ra, Allah, & Molech, who are inventions of Satan?

The Biblical kind of fear of God that a Christian should have is not a tormenting, paralyzing, destructive fear, but a reverential awe & respect:

"Definition: (a) fear, terror, alarm, (b) the object or cause of fear, (c) reverence, respect." https://biblehub.com/greek/5401.htm
The Bible talks a lot about the fear of the Lord. Do you think that means David, Moses, Abraham et al lived in terror of God?

Then why do you think Jesus who talked about fearing God meant be in terror? He didn’t limit fear to terror of hell, but said fear God as do all who know Him do. David wrote often of the fear of God but didn’t mean terror.

I cannot speak about fear of Hell since I cannot recall ever having that fear a moment in my whole life. Guess by your definition I was perfected in love as a child. Nice to know.
 
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I too worry whether or not I have committed the sin of Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26-30. I have a beautiful, loving family and church. I have been a Christian all my life with good and loving parents and a God-loving grandmother. I find myself filled with apathy towards God and towards his children, I get easily annoyed and impatient. 1 Corinthians 13 says that love does not boast, is not easily angered, is patient and kind, etc. I ask God to help me love Him and His children. I ask Him to help me love what he loves and hate what he hates, but there is really no feeling of sorrow in me. Reading the Bible and going to church seems like more of a chore than a privilege. Is it possible for one to have a constant desire for God? I ask God to help me, like the psalmist say "Who have I in heaven but You? I desire You more than anything on earth." Is it that we are too focused on ourselves? We cannot make ourselves feel sorrow or joy.. it just comes spontaneously, and the more we try to feel it, the less we are able to.
Another verse that concerns me is the one that says "do not pretend to love others, really love them" Everything I do for God seems to be in vain. I read the Bible, go to church, and pray but it all feels like I'm just giving lip service and going through the motions. People may say, "well you're find because you're concerned about it, and if you weren't saved you wouldn't be concerned." But I ask myself, am I really seeking God or am I just seeking to be rescued from hell? Even when I look to verses of hope, I just take them for granted. I take God's love for granted. Let's pray for each other. We have to keep trying to believe that even in all the indifference, God can change us, and He will keep us from falling away.. right now, I'm struggling too.
Have you asked God to fill you with His Holy Spirit? Just a thought. I can understand the feelings but there can be many reasons.

One thing that comes to mind is the narcissist songs sung commonly in church. If they aren’t focusing on what God did for us, they’re singing about some intense devotion we all are supposed to have. I can imagine a diet of singing “how much you gave me” or “I only live for you” instead of “God you are full of lovingkindness” and “trust in the Lord and do good” would leave a believer empty. I’m convinced the enemy has invade christian music and made it weak.
 
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I think I am a true born again believer as described in Hebrews 6 and I truly fell away.

Question: "Does Hebrews 6:4-6 mean we can lose our salvation?"

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Hebrews 6:4-6 states, “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.” This is one of the Bible’s most difficult passages to interpret, but one thing is clear—it does not teach that we can lose our salvation. There are two valid ways of looking at these verses:

One interpretation holds that this passage is written not about Christians but about unbelievers who are convinced of the basic truths of the gospel but who have not placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior. They are intellectually persuaded but spiritually uncommitted.

According to this interpretation, the phrase “once enlightened” (verse 4) refers to some level of instruction in biblical truth. However, understanding the words of scripture is not the same as being regenerated by the Holy Spirit. For example, John 1:9 describes Jesus, the “true Light,” giving light “to every man”; but this cannot mean the light of salvation, because not every man is saved. Through God’s sovereign power, every man has enough light to be held responsible. This light either leads to the complete acceptance of Jesus Christ or produces condemnation in those who reject such light. The people described in Hebrews 6:4-6 are of the latter group—unbelievers who have been exposed to God’s redemptive truth and perhaps have made a profession of faith, but have not exercised genuine saving faith.

This interpretation also sees the phrase “tasted the heavenly gift” (Hebrews 6:9) as referring to a momentary experience, akin to Jesus’ “tasting” death (Hebrews 2:9). This brief experience with the heavenly gift is not seen as equivalent to salvation; rather, it is likened to the second and third soils in Jesus’ parable (Matthew 13:3-23), which describes people who receive the truth of the gospel but are not truly saved.

Finally, this interpretation sees the “falling away” (Hebrews 6:6) as a reference to those who have tasted the truth but, not having come all the way to faith, fall away from even the revelation they have been given. The tasting of truth is not enough to keep them from falling away from it. They must come all the way to Christ in complete repentance and faith; otherwise, they in effect re-crucify Christ and treat Him contemptuously. Those who sin against Christ in such a way have no hope of restoration or forgiveness because they reject Him with full knowledge and conscious experience. They have concluded that Jesus should have been crucified, and they stand with His enemies. It is impossible to renew such to repentance.

The other interpretation holds that this passage is written about Christians, and that the phrases “partakers of the Holy Ghost,” “enlightened,” and “tasted of the heavenly gift” are all descriptions of true believers.

According to this interpretation, the key word in the passage is if (verse 6). The writer of Hebrews is setting up a hypothetical statement: “IF a Christian were to fall away . . .” The point being made is that it would be impossible (IF a Christian falls away) to renew salvation. That’s because Christ died once for sin (Hebrews 9:28), and if His sacrifice is insufficient, then there’s no hope at all.

The passage, therefore, presents an argument based on a false premise (that a true Christian can fall away) and follows it to its senseless conclusion (that Jesus would have to be sacrificed again and again). The absurdity of the conclusion points up the impossibility of the original assumption. This reasoning is called reductio ad absurdum, in which a premise is disproved by showing that it logically leads to an absurdity.

Both of these interpretations support the security of the believer in Christ. The first interpretation presents unbelievers rejecting Christ and thereby losing their chance of salvation; the second interpretation presents the very idea of believers losing salvation as impossible. Many scriptures make it abundantly clear that salvation is eternal (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:35, 38-39; Philippians 1:6; 1 Peter 1:4-5), and Hebrews 6:4-6 confirms that doctrine.

www.gotquestions.org/Hebrews-6.html
 
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Remember Jesus talked about hell more than heaven and even says, "Fear the God who can throw the body and soul in hell." I think there's a degree of fear that's good to have. After you get converted, that fear should go away as it did for me.
For their involuntary/unintentional and inherited/inborn Adam's Original Sin, God will be sending all fallen Man to hell when they die = they need to believe in Jesus Christ to save them from hell = believers will die, be resurrected/raptured, ... and inherit the kingdom of heaven.(ROMANS.5:12)

For their voluntary sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking, God will be cursing/punishing fallen Man with calamities and terror, resulting in a sad and short life on earth(DEUT.28:15, PROVERBS.1:25, 1CORINTHIANS.5:5 & 11:30, 1JOHN.5:16) = they need God's laws, either written on books, eg the Bible or written on their hearts(HEBREWS.8:10, cf; ACTS.15:24-29) = law-abiding people will generally enjoy a good, peaceful, loving and long life on earth.(ROMANS.2:5)

Believers should not fear hell, but they should fear falling into sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking because they risk losing their faith and salvation while suffering for their sins, eg the wife of Job(JOB.2:9). Gentile Christians who ignore God's laws and the Old Testament are more easily ensnared by sins.
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P S - Are you taking any prescription pills for psychological problems, mental disorders or chronic pain.? Once addicted, prescription pills damage/alter the brain like drugs and alcohol, eg horrible withdrawal symptoms.
 
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I fell into a long season of willful sins and when I realized what I was doing I tried to repent of it. I was able to physically repent of my sins in the manner of simply not doing them anymore. I was able to quit my addictions and etc. but my soul still has a void in the inside. I think I even remember a time when I sensed the Holy Spirit left me. I keep praying and praying and interceding but God does not answer. I search for him diligently but he will not be found by me.

When I quit all of my sins it just left a void in my heart. Since I have nothing to replace my sin since God left me, I can't enjoy my victory over sin. I think I have done Hebrews 6 where I cannot ever repent truly from the inside out again. There is a sin unto death and you should listen to the Bible warning about it. It's been 1 year now and I still have no resolution. Almost everyone else I see in the same predicament as me(truly born again and fell away) are in the same state as me feeling spiritually dead.

If you want to give me a story about a backslider who was restored, don't bother because most of those stories are only superficial believers who fell away. I think I am a true born again believer as described in Hebrews 6 and I truly fell away. I don't even feel fear anymore. Just consuming apathy. The second death is here and now.
You're relying far too much on your feelings. Faith is above feelings and many times goes contrary to them. "Feeling spiritually dead" is the real issue, since the whole world has it wrong. The world teaches that feelings are spirit, but that is an unbiblical concept. Spirit is deeper than feelings, and so is Biblical faith. I don't know what your addictions were, but if it was drug or alcohol abuse, then you have a body chemistry issue that might have done you some long-term damage, and you are merely suffering the consequences of your addictions. That would have nothing to do with spiritual life or death. Concerning spiritual life, it has to do with conscience, since the Spirit speaks to us through conscience. I get that your conscience is still alive and well, therefore you're spiritually alive. Believe God's word, no matter what you feel, since Peter wrote that we are "kept by the power of God through faith for salvation." When you are dissatisfied with your sin enough to do something about it, that is the rumblings of salvation. Pay more attention to the word of God, and less to your feelings.
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All things are possible for those who believe. We serve a miracle working God who loves His children. No weapon formed against us shall prosper. Who the Son sets free, is free indeed. There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. God will never leave us, or forsake us so let the redeemed of the Lord say so. God has not forgotten you and sees exactly where you are at. As we repent from our sins from a sincere heart, he is Faithful and just to forgive us of all our sins. Cry out to God and He shall surely deliver you from out of your troubles. He shall reach out His outstretched hand and pull you from darkness and into the marvelous light. Jesus first descended. Jesus got the keys of death, hell, and grave from the enemy and we have the victory in Him! Death is swallowed up in victory. Interceding for you directly to the Father. In Jesus Name. Amen
 
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Invalidusername said:
My biggest regret is how I took my beautiful relationship with God and trashed it. I took a great salvation and decided that inappropriate contentography, alcohol, weed, demonic movies, and being accepted by the world was more important.
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/struggling-with-condemnation.8077407/page-3#post-73063233
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I took God's love for granted,
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1CORINTHIANS.5: = 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

God still loves you.

The above verse says that the unrepentant Gentile Christian incest-sinner would still be saved from hell after his flesh has been destroyed by Satan = died young, eg if he kept his faith in Jesus Christ, did not renounce the faith or depart from the faith or cursed God and died(cf; JOB.2:9). Similarly for the about-to-die Jewish robber who was crucified next to Jesus at LUKE.23:43, ie he went to Paradise by believing in Jesus, even though he died young for his sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking.
....... So, no matter how grave your sins/evil-deeds are, you need to hold on to your faith in Christ and the promises/Word of God until your dying breath.

Consuming moderate amounts of alcohol or weed daily for more than a month will result in the brain being permanently damaged or its chemistry altered = addiction.(cf; LEVITICUS.10:9 = Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink.) Once substance/drug addiction has set in, the sick addict should not suddenly stop the drug intake = horrible withdrawal symptoms that are the opposite of the original positive effects of the drug, eg anxiety, insomnia, paranoia, delusion, hallucination, muscle spasms, etc - alcoholism's Delirium Tremens. Similarly, diabetics should not suddenly stop taking their insulin medication.
....... ACTS.15:24-29 permits Gentile Christian drug addicts to not obey LEV.10:9 or other burdensome laws, ie they can continue to indulge in their evil habit or addiction, in order to maintain some semblance of sanity/normalcy. Of course, drug addiction is expensive and not very good for their body's health, eg alcoholism damages the liver also. Eternal life in heaven through faith in Jesus Christ trumps the keeping of the Law.
 
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I fell into a long season of willful sins and when I realized what I was doing I tried to repent of it. I was able to physically repent of my sins in the manner of simply not doing them anymore. I was able to quit my addictions and etc. but my soul still has a void in the inside. I think I even remember a time when I sensed the Holy Spirit left me. I keep praying and praying and interceding but God does not answer. I search for him diligently but he will not be found by me.

When I quit all of my sins it just left a void in my heart. Since I have nothing to replace my sin since God left me, I can't enjoy my victory over sin. I think I have done Hebrews 6 where I cannot ever repent truly from the inside out again. There is a sin unto death and you should listen to the Bible warning about it. It's been 1 year now and I still have no resolution. Almost everyone else I see in the same predicament as me(truly born again and fell away) are in the same state as me feeling spiritually dead.

If you want to give me a story about a backslider who was restored, don't bother because most of those stories are only superficial believers who fell away. I think I am a true born again believer as described in Hebrews 6 and I truly fell away. I don't even feel fear anymore. Just consuming apathy. The second death is here and now.
Explain this passage to me please:
7 You might think I am saying that sin and the law are the same. That is not true. But the law was the only way I could learn what sin means. I would never have known it is wrong to want something that is not mine. But the law said, “You must not want what belongs to someone else.”8 And sin found a way to use that command and make me want all kinds of things that weren’t mine. So sin came to me because of the command. But without the law, sin has no power. 9 Before I knew the law, I was alive. But when I heard the law’s command, sin began to live,10 and I died spiritually. The command was meant to bring life, but for me it brought death. 11 Sin found a way to fool me by using the command to make me die.

12 Now the law is holy, and the command is holy and right and good.13 Does this mean that something that is good brought death to me? No, it was sin that used the good command to bring me death. This shows how terrible sin really is. It can use a good command to produce a result that shows sin at its very worst.

The War Inside Us
14 We know that the law is spiritual, but I am not. I am so human. Sin rules me as if I were its slave. 15 I don’t understand why I act the way I do. I don’t do the good I want to do, and I do the evil I hate. 16 And if I don’t want to do what I do, that means I agree that the law is good.17 But I am not really the one doing the evil. It is sin living in me that does it. 18 Yes, I know that nothing good lives in me—I mean nothing good lives in the part of me that is not spiritual. I want to do what is good, but I don’t do it. 19 I don’t do the good that I want to do. I do the evil that I don’t want to do. 20 So if I do what I don’t want to do, then I am not really the one doing it. It is the sin living in me that does it.

21 So I have learned this rule: When I want to do good, evil is there with me. 22 In my mind I am happy with God’s law. 23 But I see another law working in my body. That law makes war against the law that my mind accepts. That other law working in my body is the law of sin, and that law makes me its prisoner. 24 What a miserable person I am! Who will save me from this body that brings me death? 25 I thank God for his salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So in my mind I am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful self I am a slave to the law of sin.

who is speaking
to whom is he speaking to
what authority does he have
what is he struggling with?
is this struggle before after or during his salvation?
How does he reconcile his sin?

Paul as in the apostle is speaking
To His congregation in Rome
He is an apostle of Jesus Christ
He i still struggling with active sin in his life as Paul the great apstole of Jesus Christ. So riddle me this if Paul is the apstole who wrote 2/3 of the New Testament struggled with sin, yet retained the Holy Spirit, then who are you to pretend that you have master all sin?

Paul struggle with his sin daily.

Paul realized his only hope was to identify where his sin came from, and that was his sinful self. the body that was a slave to sin, this pat of himself he had no control over. yet he knew there was apart of himself that hated sin even though he kept sinning! this part that hated Sin was the new creation in Christ. So he lived in the new creation while the old man who will some day die to sin he kept separate.

Now read your op again. you stopped sinning in act. when you stopped all of it apart of you died. meaning apart of you that should hate sin mourns for the sin you left behind. If I were the Spirit I would hold back till you got this part of your house back in order. that is just to start.
 
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P S - Are you taking any prescription pills for psychological problems, mental disorders or chronic pain.? Once addicted, prescription pills damage/alter the brain like drugs and alcohol, eg horrible withdrawal symptoms.

I was on lexapro but stopped. I am now back on meds which include a SSRI and a medicine for OCD. Started them again 3 weeks ago. Neither of them are helping me.

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1CORINTHIANS.5: = 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

God still loves you.

The above verse says that the unrepentant Gentile Christian incest-sinner would still be saved from hell after his flesh has been destroyed by Satan = died young, eg if he kept his faith in Jesus Christ, did not renounce the faith or depart from the faith or cursed God and died(cf; JOB.2:9). Similarly for the about-to-die Jewish robber who was crucified next to Jesus at LUKE.23:43, ie he went to Paradise by believing in Jesus, even though he died young for his sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking.
....... So, no matter how grave your sins/evil-deeds are, you need to hold on to your faith in Christ and the promises/Word of God until your dying breath.

Consuming moderate amounts of alcohol or weed daily for more than a month will result in the brain being permanently damaged or its chemistry altered = addiction.(cf; LEVITICUS.10:9 = Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink.) Once substance/drug addiction has set in, the sick addict should not suddenly stop the drug intake = horrible withdrawal symptoms that are the opposite of the original positive effects of the drug, eg anxiety, insomnia, paranoia, delusion, hallucination, muscle spasms, etc - alcoholism's Delirium Tremens. Similarly, diabetics should not suddenly stop taking their insulin medication.
....... ACTS.15:24-29 permits Gentile Christian drug addicts to not obey LEV.10:9 or other burdensome laws, ie they can continue to indulge in their evil habit or addiction, in order to maintain some semblance of sanity/normalcy. Of course, drug addiction is expensive and not very good for their body's health, eg alcoholism damages the liver also. Eternal life in heaven through faith in Jesus Christ trumps the keeping of the Law.

I did alcohol(not daily but I did binge drink to the point of blacking out). I did smoke weed daily for a brief period of time as well. However my dead heart lasted longer than that. I was just not aware of how dead my heart was until I attempted to repent.

Explain this passage to me please:
7 You might think I am saying that sin and the law are the same. That is not true. But the law was the only way I could learn what sin means. I would never have known it is wrong to want something that is not mine. But the law said, “You must not want what belongs to someone else.”8 And sin found a way to use that command and make me want all kinds of things that weren’t mine. So sin came to me because of the command. But without the law, sin has no power. 9 Before I knew the law, I was alive. But when I heard the law’s command, sin began to live,10 and I died spiritually. The command was meant to bring life, but for me it brought death. 11 Sin found a way to fool me by using the command to make me die.

12 Now the law is holy, and the command is holy and right and good.13 Does this mean that something that is good brought death to me? No, it was sin that used the good command to bring me death. This shows how terrible sin really is. It can use a good command to produce a result that shows sin at its very worst.

The War Inside Us
14 We know that the law is spiritual, but I am not. I am so human. Sin rules me as if I were its slave. 15 I don’t understand why I act the way I do. I don’t do the good I want to do, and I do the evil I hate. 16 And if I don’t want to do what I do, that means I agree that the law is good.17 But I am not really the one doing the evil. It is sin living in me that does it. 18 Yes, I know that nothing good lives in me—I mean nothing good lives in the part of me that is not spiritual. I want to do what is good, but I don’t do it. 19 I don’t do the good that I want to do. I do the evil that I don’t want to do. 20 So if I do what I don’t want to do, then I am not really the one doing it. It is the sin living in me that does it.

21 So I have learned this rule: When I want to do good, evil is there with me. 22 In my mind I am happy with God’s law. 23 But I see another law working in my body. That law makes war against the law that my mind accepts. That other law working in my body is the law of sin, and that law makes me its prisoner. 24 What a miserable person I am! Who will save me from this body that brings me death? 25 I thank God for his salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So in my mind I am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful self I am a slave to the law of sin.

who is speaking
to whom is he speaking to
what authority does he have
what is he struggling with?
is this struggle before after or during his salvation?
How does he reconcile his sin?

Paul as in the apostle is speaking
To His congregation in Rome
He is an apostle of Jesus Christ
He i still struggling with active sin in his life as Paul the great apstole of Jesus Christ. So riddle me this if Paul is the apstole who wrote 2/3 of the New Testament struggled with sin, yet retained the Holy Spirit, then who are you to pretend that you have master all sin?

Paul struggle with his sin daily.

Paul realized his only hope was to identify where his sin came from, and that was his sinful self. the body that was a slave to sin, this pat of himself he had no control over. yet he knew there was apart of himself that hated sin even though he kept sinning! this part that hated Sin was the new creation in Christ. So he lived in the new creation while the old man who will some day die to sin he kept separate.

Now read your op again. you stopped sinning in act. when you stopped all of it apart of you died. meaning apart of you that should hate sin mourns for the sin you left behind. If I were the Spirit I would hold back till you got this part of your house back in order. that is just to start.

You're right. A part of me died. I really want to repent in soul and spirit also but I don't think it's possible(hebrews 6).
 
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