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Ok, getting back to Daniel and Revelation. Daniel sets up certain timelines that continue in Revelation.

On the throne there are 4 beasts and 24 elders arranged in clock formation. There are two types of generation in the bible, a standard 70 year generation, and a 'strong' 80 year generation:

Psalm 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years,

Each elder, who is actually a Levite, corresponds to 80 years. And each beast corresponds to 6 elders, as they are on the inner hub of the circle. (They also have 6 wings to show they correspond to 6 elders). So each beast faces out on 6 elders, whose portion of the clock face equates to 480 years.

Revelation was written in AD96, which marked the end of that 70 year generation in Israel. (The 80 year generation would have ended in AD106.) {The world was created in 3895BC, so you simply count the generations from then forward}.

The 4 cycles of 480 years counting from AD96 bring us to 2016.

When we come to the 4 seals each successive beast announces the seal, indicating that they are events occuring every 480 years from AD96 onwards.

However there is another time cycle of 490 years established in Daniel. This revolves around the 4 generational curse God put on Jerusalem and Judah. This requires proper explanation, but briefly each 70 year generation gets amplified 7 times, according to God's wrath, and so becomes 490 years.

So Jerusalem is under 1960 years of curse, starting in AD70, and going in 4 generational cycles of 490 years. Each cycle is depicted by a seal. The first seal is Rome, the second is Islam, (Mohammed was born AD560), the third I think is the Catholic Church, and the fourth is the Jesuit movement, (founded AD1540).

Jerusalem's curse expires in 2030. The house of Judah's curse expires 3.5 years later, in 2033, (because the 70th week of Daniel ended AD73).

Why the beasts run on a 480 year cycle, against the 490 year curse cycle, I don't know, (although there is a Hezekiah factor in the Bible which allows for a 10 year extension).
 
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The Revelation tells us what the Beast is. All you have to do is believe the Revelation.

10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.
11 Concerning the beast who was, and is not, he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to destruction.
Rev 17

your reply does not answer the question asked.

in order to tell what the mark is you must know who or what the beast is. would you share that information with us?

be specific please
 
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your reply does not answer the question asked.

in order to tell what the mark is you must know who or what the beast is. would you share that information with us?

be specific please
OHP, John is theorizing JFK is the first beast. And Henry Kissinger is the second beast. And the mark and number of the beast is tied to Henry Kissinger (the second beast), not JFK the first beast.

He can speak for himself of course to explain the mark. But the above is what I gathered from his posts.
 
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OHP, John is theorizing JFK is the first beast. And Henry Kissinger is the second beast. And the mark and number of the beast is tied to Henry Kissinger (the second beast), not JFK the first beast.

He can speak for himself of course to explain the mark. But the above is what I gathered from his posts.

WOW
never heard that theory before. If that is what he believes I wonder how he ties the cashless society as the mark to Henry Kissinger.

Who teaches this theory?
 
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WOW never heard that theory before.
If that is what he believes I wonder how he ties the cashless society as the mark to Henry Kissinger.
Who teaches this theory?

If you care to read what I contend/teach, scroll back to my post # 69.
Page 4
 
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Oh! I've just realized why perhaps there are two parrallel time lines.

When you run the 1920 years Revelation timeline from 106AD it terminates at AD2026.

The Daniel timeline terminates AD2030, and AD2033.
That then makes a kind of final week, from 2027 - 2033. This is not Daniel's 70th week, but it forms a mirror image of it. (Mirror images are important because we see this with the casting of the net in John21).

This I presume will be a Levitical week in Jerusalem. Perhaps the Temple will be rebuilt 2027-2030 .........sacrifice instituted 2030-2033.
 
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If you care to read what I contend/teach, scroll back to my post # 69.
Page 4

I did. Please answer the questions that I asked about who the beast is if you know what the mark is.
 
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Oh! I've just realized why perhaps there are two parrallel time lines.

When you run the 1920 years Revelation timeline from 106AD it terminates at AD2026.

The Daniel timeline terminates AD2030, and AD2033.
That then makes a kind of final week, from 2027 - 2033. This is not Daniel's 70th week, but it forms a mirror image of it. (Mirror images are important because we see this with the casting of the net in John21).

This I presume will be a Levitical week in Jerusalem. Perhaps the Temple will be rebuilt 2027-2030 .........sacrifice instituted 2030-2033.

a lot of speculation in this post

still based on a Jesuit teaching of the counter reformation
 
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That's easy enough, the tribulation is the last of the seventy sevens. The sixty ninth ended with the crucified Messiah and since then the commencement of the last seven years
Just curious, Isn't that eight years?
 
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Oh! I've just realized why perhaps there are two parrallel time lines.

When you run the 1920 years Revelation timeline from 106AD it terminates at AD2026.

The Daniel timeline terminates AD2030, and AD2033.
That then makes a kind of final week, from 2027 - 2033. This is not Daniel's 70th week, but it forms a mirror image of it. (Mirror images are important because we see this with the casting of the net in John21).

This I presume will be a Levitical week in Jerusalem. Perhaps the Temple will be rebuilt 2027-2030 .........sacrifice instituted 2030-2033.


This chart might interest you
http://www.islamandchristianity.org/~islama8/study-guides/Times_Chart.pdf
 
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I did. Please answer the questions that I asked about who the beast is if you know what the mark is.

As my post # 69 says,
I did. Please answer the questions that I asked about who the beast is if you know what the mark is.

Following from my post # 69, page 4

"I predict/prophecy in Jesus name that John F. Kennedy will publicly reappear,
amaze the world, take world power, and is in fact the beast of the Revelation.
.............
The confirmation of my contention will be the public and literal reappearance of JFK
who will take world power with Kissinger at his side."

OHC, you sincerely need to take a remedial reading class. Check the local Jr colleges.
 
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