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I repeat, you need to learn to treat people with respect. You can disagree with a person respectfully.
I treat with respect but I also use God's Holy Spirit to discern evil where it exists. I disagree with most Republicans on many issues but most all of them are good people and I treat them respectfully. The same goes for liberals but there are some people that are scum and a good man stands against the evil they stand for and Trump falls into that category.
 
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I treat with respect but I also use God's Holy Spirit to discern evil where it exists. I disagree with most Republicans on many issues but most all of them are good people and I treat them respectfully. The same goes for liberals but there are some people that are scum and a good man stands against the evil they stand for and Trump falls into that category.
You are not the judge. Treat people with respect. We are told to love even our enemies.
 
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You need to treat people with respect no matter how you feel about them.
No I don't. I do not need to treat Nazis, KKK members, or other racists with respect.

And I do not think that is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
 
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No I don't. I do not need to treat Nazis, KKK members, or other racists with respect.
Donald made a speech and denounced the the neo-nazis, KKK, and white supremacists. I saw it on TV.
 
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Donald made a speech and denounced the the neo-nazis, KKK, and white supremacists. I saw it on TV.
And then he walked it back, and called some of them "very fine people". It was all over the news, many people resigned from government positions in protest of Trump's support for the KKK and Nazis. I'm sorry you missed this, but the fact that you don't know about something does not mean it didn't happen. If you're sincerely interested in discovering what happened, please use google. There are numerous reputable sources and numerous reputable people who will attest to this happening.

Let's get back on topic:

I do not think that it is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
 
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You are not the judge. Treat people with respect. We are told to love even our enemies.
We are called to discern good and evil. Loving our enemies isn't enabling them to sin in greater ways. Jesus called out the religious of Israel for their sin against the people. I'll never meet Trump but I can point out his evil. He is an egotistical, self righteous, adulterous liar.
 
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And then he walked it back, and called some of them "very fine people". It was all over the news, many people resigned from government positions in protest of Trump's support for the KKK and Nazis. I'm sorry you missed this, but the fact that you don't know about something does not mean it didn't happen. If you're sincerely interested in discovering what happened, please use google. There are numerous reputable sources and numerous reputable people who will attest to this happening.

Let's get back on topic:

I do not think that it is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
No, he didn't call them fine people. He was referring to the fact that there were fine people on both sides of the issue of tearing down confederate statues.
 
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We are called to discern good and evil. Loving our enemies isn't enabling them to sin in greater ways. Jesus called out the religious of Israel for their sin against the people. I'll never meet Trump but I can point out his evil. He is an egotistical, self righteous, adulterous liar.
We are told not to judge people (Matt 7:1).
 
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No, he didn't call them fine people. He was referring to the fact that there were fine people on both sides of the issue of tearing down confederate statues.
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Trump is on video tape making racist comments on numerous occasions, and if that doesn't convince you that Trump makes racist comments, then obviously nothing I say is going to change your mind.

Anyways, can we please get back on topic:

I do not think that it is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
 
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I might agree if Trump hadn't made so many racist comments in both the past and the present.

Anyways, can we please get back on topic:

I do not think that it is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
I'm not aware of any racist remarks he's made recently. As for the distant past, he has been accused of making at least one racial statement. I know, though, that we've all sinned. The object is to learn from our sins. I think Donald has.
 
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I'm not aware of any racist remarks he's made recently.

There is nothing I can do about that, using google isn't that complicated. Trump is on video tape making racist comments on numerous occasions, both in the past and in the present, and if that doesn't convince you that Trump makes racist comments, then obviously nothing I say is going to change your mind. You are free to keep believing what you want.

Can we please get back on topic?

I do not think that it is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
 
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We are told not to judge people (Matt 7:1).
Scripture says a lot of things and what Jesus was taking about was passing judgment of people as the Pharisees did in the Sanhedrin. Punishing the people for their sin. As the scriptures which you were already provided said, we are to discern evil through God's Holy Spirit.
Hopefully, you would not allow evil people to corrupt your family or church because you thought you should allow them freedom to do as they please.
 
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There is nothing I can do about that, using google isn't that complicated. Trump is on video tape making racist comments on numerous occasions, both in the past and in the present, and if that doesn't convince you that Trump makes racist comments, then obviously nothing I say is going to change your mind. You are free to keep believing what you want.

Can we please get back on topic?

I do not think that it is reasonable to stick only to the issue, when race and racism are part of the issue, and the politician supporting the issue repeatedly makes racist statements. Do you agree or disagree?
Tell me something recently he's said that is racist.
 
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Scripture says a lot of things and what Jesus was taking about was passing judgment of people as the Pharisees did in the Sanhedrin. Punishing the people for their sin. As the scriptures which you were already provided said, we are to discern evil through God's Holy Spirit.
Hopefully, you would not allow evil people to corrupt your family or church because you thought you should allow them freedom to do as they please.
You shouldn't judge people unless you have to. Constantly complaining about the president of the United States, or anybody else, is immature.
 
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You shouldn't judge people unless you have to. Constantly complaining about the president of the United States, or anybody else, is immature.
Immature perfectly describes the President. Thanks
 
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