I Wonder

[dreadnought]

I would agree, "IF" the OP was about a particular issue, such as abortion. We should be able to discuss all of the particulars about that issue without bringing names into the issue. The same with border protection, etc...

But it seems like people are mostly talking about personalities nowadays.

 

[Yarddog]

But it seems like people are mostly talking about personalities nowadays.

Nowadays??? C'mon. Surely if you like Clete Boyer you are old enough to know that politics have been like this far longer than we've been alive.

 

[dreadnought]

Nowadays??? C'mon. Surely if you like Clete Boyer you are old enough to know that politics have been like this far longer than we've been alive.

But it seems to have gotten worse since the last presidential election.

 

[dreadnought]

Nowadays??? C'mon. Surely if you like Clete Boyer you are old enough to know that politics have been like this far longer than we've been alive.

Clete was okay, but Ken was the man.

 

[Yarddog]

But it seems to have gotten worse since the last presidential election.

It has gotten worse as Trump has elevated his attacks on Obama, Clinton, Comey, or any myriad of people who disagrees with him. No other American President has attacked opponents in the manner in which he has.

 

[dreadnought]

It has gotten worse as Trump has elevated his attacks on Obama, Clinton, Comey, or any myriad of people who disagrees with him. No other American President has attacked opponents in the manner in which he has.

Has Donald attacked anyone who hasn't attacked him first?

 

[Humble me Lord]

So, I guess the answer to your original question is, no

 

[Yarddog]

Has Donald attacked anyone who hasn't attacked him first?

Sure, he attacked Obama numerous times but Obama refused to stoop to Trump's level. The only time Obama ever got back at Trump was at the Correspondent's Dinner. He did it in a very humorous manner.

Trump has also attack his own enforcement organizations without being attacked. He has attacked Federal Judges as well as others.

 

[dreadnought]

So, I guess the answer to your original question is, no

We're trying.

 

[dreadnought]

Sure, he attacked Obama numerous times but Obama refused to stoop to Trump's level. The only time Obama ever got back at Trump was at the Correspondent's Dinner. He did it in a very humorous manner.

Trump has also attack his own enforcement organizations without being attacked. He has attacked Federal Judges as well as others.

Didn't Barack campaign for Hillary and make disparaging remarks about Donald? Did Donald attack the enforcement organizations or simply criticize them for providing inaccurate information?

 

[Yarddog]

Didn't Barack campaign for Hillary and make disparaging remarks about Donald? Did Donald attack the enforcement organizations or simply criticize them for providing inaccurate information?

Trump has been attacking Obama since he was elected in 2008. He has no proof of any inaccurate info being put out by any of the intelligence agencies, and yes, he has attacked them.

 

[dreadnought]

Trump has been attacking Obama since he was elected in 2008. He has no proof of any inaccurate info being put out by any of the intelligence agencies, and yes, he has attacked them.

Let me ask you this: If Donald stopped sparring with the mainstream media, would the mainstream media stop sparring with Donald?

 

[Yarddog]

Let me ask you this: If Donald stopped sparring with the mainstream media, would the mainstream media stop sparring with Donald?

If he actually started acting like a good President then a portion would but then the right wing element of the main stream media would pick up the slack.

 

[dreadnought]

If he actually started acting like a good President then a portion would but then the right wing element of the main stream media would pick up the slack.

There you go attacking him.

 

[Yarddog]

There you go attacking him.

You were the one who brought up the issue, not me. I have just been responding with truth. There are various elements within the main stream media. If Trump swings toward the middle, the left will ease up but the right will attack.

 

[tulc]

There you go attacking him.

uhmmm...if the issue is President Trump how can discussing President Trump be an attack?
tulc(isn't fighting here, he's just not sure what dreadnoughts point was)

 

[dreadnought]

You were the one who brought up the issue, not me. I have just been responding with truth. There are various elements within the main stream media. If Trump swings toward the middle, the left will ease up but the right will attack.

I raised the issue of whether or not we could talk political issues without attacking someone. You attacked someone.

 

[dreadnought]

uhmmm...if the issue is President Trump how can discussing President Trump be an attack?
tulc(isn't fighting here, he's just not sure what dreadnoughts point was)

The question was whether or not we could talk issues without attacking someone. I had hoped we could get through this thread without attacking anyone.

 

[Yarddog]

The question was whether or not we could talk issues without attacking someone. I had hoped we could get through this thread without attacking anyone.

But you were the one who brought Donald Trump into the discussion. I just followed what you made the issue.
I asked you in post #16 "Who are the ones which you refer to that are attaching personalities to the issues and give us an example."

And you replied "It seems to me almost everybody attaches personalities to issues. As for an example, they are constantly talking about Donald Trump."

To which I responded "Isn't Donald Trump putting his name on most of the issues which Congress has been working on?"

You said in #23 "But it seems to have gotten worse since the last presidential election."

To which I responded and sticking with the issue you brought up, "It has gotten worse as Trump has elevated his attacks on Obama, Clinton, Comey, or any myriad of people who disagrees with him. No other American President has attacked opponents in the manner in which he has."

This went on as I simply responded to the issue which you brought up. Now if you want to talk about a particular issue, which I pointed out in post #20 saying, ""IF" the OP was about a particular issue, such as abortion. We should be able to discuss all of the particulars about that issue without bringing names into the issue. The same with border protection, etc..."

God Bless

 

[dreadnought]

But you were the one who brought Donald Trump into the discussion. I just followed what you made the issue.
I asked you in post #16 "Who are the ones which you refer to that are attaching personalities to the issues and give us an example."

And you replied "It seems to me almost everybody attaches personalities to issues. As for an example, they are constantly talking about Donald Trump."

To which I responded "Isn't Donald Trump putting his name on most of the issues which Congress has been working on?"

You said in #23 "But it seems to have gotten worse since the last presidential election."

To which I responded and sticking with the issue you brought up, "It has gotten worse as Trump has elevated his attacks on Obama, Clinton, Comey, or any myriad of people who disagrees with him. No other American President has attacked opponents in the manner in which he has."

This went on as I simply responded to the issue which you brought up. Now if you want to talk about a particular issue, which I pointed out in post #20 saying, ""IF" the OP was about a particular issue, such as abortion. We should be able to discuss all of the particulars about that issue without bringing names into the issue. The same with border protection, etc..."

God Bless

Either you can discuss issues without attacking people, or you can't.