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Either you can discuss issues without attacking people, or you can't.
Then stop attacking those who you believe attacked Trump. If what I said was attacking, then what you have said was attacking.

As I have said, IF you want to discuss an issue then bring up an issue, other than people attacking.
 
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Then stop attacking those who you believe attacked Trump. If what I said was attacking, then what you have said was attacking.

As I have said, IF you want to discuss an issue then bring up an issue, other than people attacking.
I haven't attacked anybody on this thread, and don't know if my defense if Donald Trump on other threads qualifies as attacks.
 
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I haven't attacked anybody on this thread, and don't know if my defense if Donald Trump on other threads qualifies as attacks.
Then I didn't attack anyone either. You began the talk about Trump being attacked. I gave info pertaining to the issue which you brought up. If you don't want to talk about Trump, then bring up an another issue.

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Then I didn't attack anyone either. You began the talk about Trump being attacked. I gave info pertaining to the issue which you brought up. If you don't want to talk about Trump, then bring up an another issue.

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No, you attacked the president in post 33. God bless. Go Cardinals.
 
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If he actually started acting like a good President then a portion would but then the right wing element of the main stream media would pick up the slack.
No, no, no. I know the difference between a criticism and an insult. If you thought he was doing an awful job, you could say, “I think he is doing an awful job,” but this is an insult:

“If he actually started acting like a good President then a portion would but then the right wing element of the main stream media would pick up the slack.”
 
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No, no, no. I know the difference between a criticism and an insult. If you thought he was doing an awful job, you could say, “I think he is doing an awful job,” but this is an insult:

“If he actually started acting like a good President then a portion would but then the right wing element of the main stream media would pick up the slack.”
You have repeatedly said that we should talk about the issues and not the politicians but instead of asking about the issues you keep asking about Trump and I have responded truthfully about him because YOU made him the issue.

You then asked, "Let me ask you this: If Donald stopped sparring with the mainstream media, would the mainstream media stop sparring with Donald?

You posted my reply, above. Now if YOU want to talk about the actual issues then stop asking about Donald Trump and bring up issues. it's that simply.
 
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You have repeatedly said that we should talk about the issues and not the politicians but instead of asking about the issues you keep asking about Trump and I have responded truthfully about him because YOU made him the issue.

You then asked, "Let me ask you this: If Donald stopped sparring with the mainstream media, would the mainstream media stop sparring with Donald?

You posted my reply, above. Now if YOU want to talk about the actual issues then stop asking about Donald Trump and bring up issues. it's that simply.
In this thread I am not concerned with the issues. I am just raising the question, "How many of us can discuss political issues without attacking someone?" I think it would be good if we could learn how to do that.
 
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In this thread I am not concerned with the issues. I am just raising the question, "How many of us can discuss political issues without attacking someone?" I think it would be good if we could learn how to do that.
I guess you answer your own OP. It can't be done because you don't want to talk about the political issues. If you want to talk about gun control, then let's do it and leave politicians out of the issue but if you want to ask about why people attack Trump, I'm going to answer that honestly. It's all up to you.
 
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I guess you answer your own OP. It can't be done because you don't want to talk about the political issues. If you want to talk about gun control, then let's do it and leave politicians out of the issue but if you want to ask about why people attack Trump, I'm going to answer that honestly. It's all up to you.
I can't imagine why people can't talk about issues without attacking a politician.
 
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I can't imagine why people can't talk about issues without attacking a politician.
When your issue is the politician and a horrible person, then that will always come up. It's hard to talk about Bill Clinton without talking about Monica at some point. But, if we talk about his economy, then it is easy to leave his bad side out.
 
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When your issue is the politician and a horrible person, then that will always come up. It's hard to talk about Bill Clinton without talking about Monica at some point. But, if we talk about his economy, then it is easy to leave his bad side out.
You can make a politician the issue of a discussion, but if you are going to talk about taxes, or any other issue, you can leave the politician out of it. Just decide if you are for or against, and contact your congressman, if you'd like.
 
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You can make a politician the issue of a discussion, but if you are going to talk about taxes, or any other issue, you can leave the politician out of it.
That is exactly what I have said through out this thread.

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Because you asked a question about him and not political issues.
I asked, "Let me ask you this: If Donald stopped sparring with the mainstream media, would the mainstream media stop sparring with Donald?" How did that give you reason to insult him?
 
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I asked, "Let me ask you this: If Donald stopped sparring with the mainstream media, would the mainstream media stop sparring with Donald?" How did that give you reason to insult him?
Because I told you what would happen, IMHO.
 
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Another thread caused me to wonder about this: Is it possible, when discussing politics, to discuss the issues without attacking the politicians?
If the politician is constantly espousing racist views, like Trump, then I would say no.
 
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If the politician is constantly espousing racist views, like Trump, then I would say no.
But he doesn't consistently espouse racist views. He has publicly denounced the KKK, white supremacists, and neo-nazis. I saw him do it in a speech.
 
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