Want to learn about evolution? Take a free course

[bhsmte]

I call Poe.

 

[pitabread]

I call Poe.

I often feel that way about almost every creationist on this site.

 

[Jcreigns]

So no answers to my questions and i do know trex wasnt an individual. I suppose i should have said buffy the trex

 

[Jcreigns]

And i myself would believe if i found a tooth i wouldn't try to create a whole creature from it. The miller experiment shows lifr only comes from life, and trying to force bacteria and fruitlies to evolve just deforms them.

 

[Jcreigns]

Well in the end even if they recieve some benefit they lose genetic information they can't recover

 

[bhsmte]

Yep, Poe.

 

[USincognito]

Please use the quote function so we know you're responding to.

Well if its reported as truth and isnt than its a hoax.

First off, Nebraska "man" was never reported as "truth". Science doesn't do "truth". That said, a hoax is a willful act. In the case of H. harolcookii, it was a misidentification, not a hoax, not a fraud.

Im curious but how do you determine what someone looks like with a single tooth ypu can't. Well atleast that isnt how forensic science works.

I would suggest reading up on the Nebraska "man" case from legitimate sites instead of Creationist ones. The Wikipedia entry is pretty good and succinct.
1. H. haroldcookii was identified as an anthropoid ape, not as a human or human ancestor.
2. Primate molars and porcine molars are very similar in appearance.
3. The infamous drawing of Nebraska "man" and his family was done by a newspaper artist, not a scientist and was based more on the Java man findings that H. haroldcookii.
4. Osborn himself repudiated the drawing by saying, "a figment of the imagination of no scientific value, and undoubtedly inaccurate".
Nebraska Man - Wikipedia

As I mentioned yesterday, it's quite humorous to read Creationists going on about Nebraska "man" (which was't a hoax) from 95 years ago and Piltdown man from 100 years ago when today, in 2018, their fellow Creationists are posting falsehoods and their own hoaxes to the Internet by the thousands each day.

 

[Jcreigns]

Your right in the realm of science it isn't called truth. Its hypothesis, theory, fact, and law. Well atleast it used to be

 

[Jcreigns]

And fact or law equate to basically absolute truth especially law. Fact i have never heard or read of changing either though.

 

[Jcreigns]

Science was something of a hobby i would research some. Like reading a book or 2 on biochemistry or genetics. I actually remanufacture transmissions for a profession. So i understand engineering concepts, blueprint designs, machining parts. Which was also a profession i did.

 

[Jcreigns]

My point is i understand and see how components have to integrate and work together to function correctly. Like a single to a whole animal or plant. Like if an accumulator piston in a 4l60e transmission didnt move it would cause the 3/4 clutch plates to burn out in the input housing. Same thing with living creatures.

 

[Jcreigns]

Living creatures have a huge amount of moving parts and are complex beyond anything ever designed and built by people. One day some iron ore evoled into a sphere. Then evoled into a spoon. Then into a sproket. Then added a chain and another sproket. Then intregated a gearbox, and finally one day into a transmission. It took about 2 million years. Nope, just found out 5 million years. Who believes that could happen

 

[Jimmy D]

Also i would like a clear definitive example of a complete transitional fossil

And I would like you to clarify what you think is so problematic about the Cambrian explosion. You brought it up.

 

[DogmaHunter]

In fact, my eye doctor, who is a YEC, has a very successful practice.

Maybe he just says he's a YEC so that he doesn't lose you and other members of your fundamentalist community as a patient.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Yes it does, it goes against God entirely.

The Pope and along with him the majority of christians, disagree.

God created every creature that exists on Earth, and He created man to have dominion over all of them. Never is it mentioned evolution taking place, nor does it coincide with anything the 'theory' brings across.

It is certainly true that many claims in the bible, especially the supernatural bits, don't play along nicely with the evidence of reality.

You can blame reality for that if you want. Or "Satan". But I'm afraid I don't see what good that will do.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The truth is that many are being mislead by worldly doctrines sadly.

And how do you know that you are not one of them?

 

[DogmaHunter]

I do not feel threatened at all knowing that I'm following what is the truth, not what satan has conjured up to turn people away from God to follow these false, satanic doctrines. I know that my belief is not an opinion, but a fact. Evolution goes directly against God.

So did Satan amuse himself with going around the world hiding fossils in a certain chronological order in the ground?

Did he amuse himself in rearranging the collective DNA of all species so that when mapped out, it results in a hierarchical family tree that matches the chronology we see in the fossil record? Which also matches comparative anatomy? Which also matches the geographic distribution of species and in context of the projected continental changes that occured over eons due to tectonic activity?

That's your argument?

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe he just says he's a YEC so that he doesn't lose you and other members of your fundamentalist community as a patient.

I'm not a YEC.

And even if I was, he didn't know that.

 

[Jcreigns]

Oh and do some research on fossils and how they actually appear in the earths crust. They are not in a certain

 

[Jcreigns]

Order