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[pitabread]

I believe that evolution goes directly against God, and is unfounded and unbiblical.

It's hardly "unfounded" given that we're talking about a science with a 150+ year history backed up with loads of research, experiments and published findings by thousands of scientists.

 

[Speedwell]

Yes it does, it goes against God entirely. God created every creature that exists on Earth, and He created man to have dominion over all of them. Never is it mentioned evolution taking place, nor does it coincide with anything the 'theory' brings across.

Where? Where in any scientific statement of the theory of evolution does it say that God is not the Creator?

 

[Danoded]

It's hardly "unfounded" given that we're talking about a science with a 150+ year history backed up with loads of research, experiments and published findings by thousands of scientists.

Sorry, but I do not place any value on these scientists, who they themselves are atheists, and who knows what else. I'm not following the false doctrines of this world, which is controlled and operated by satan to deceive and lead the masses away from God. May I ask why do you place so much faith in a man-made 'theory', which has no correlation with that which is written in the Bible?

 

[Danoded]

Where? Where in any scientific statement of the theory of evolution does it say that God is not the Creator?

The fact that it tries to make the marvellous work of God reduced to just 'chance' without any meaning, which it surely fails at. May I also ask what your belief in evolution is?

 

[bhsmte]

I believe that evolution goes directly against God, and is unfounded and unbiblical.

Well, most Christians disagree with you.

 

[bhsmte]

Sorry, but I do not place any value on these scientists, who they themselves are atheists, and who knows what else. I'm not following the false doctrines of this world, which is controlled and operated by satan to deceive and lead the masses away from God. May I ask why do you place so much faith in a man-made 'theory', which has no correlation with that which is written in the Bible?

What do you think about this scientist, who happens to be a devout Christian? Do you know more about the science then him?

Karl Giberson: One of the things I appreciate a lot about Darrel Falk, who I think is a courageous voice in this conversation, is that he will come out and say that common ancestry is simply a fact. And that if you’re not willing to concede that the genetic evidence points to common ancestry than you’re essentially denying the field of biology the possibility of having facts at all. That’s the strong language that he uses.

Would you say that common ancestry and evolution in general is at that level? How compelling is the evidence at this point?

Francis Collins: The evidence is overwhelming. And it is becoming more and more robust down to the details almost by the day, especially because we have this ability now to use the study of DNA as a digital record of the way Darwin’s theory has played out over the course of long periods of time.

Darwin could hardly have imagined that there would turn out to be such strong proof of his theory because he didn’t know about DNA - but we have that information. I would say we are as solid in claiming the truth of evolution as we are in claiming the truth of the germ theory. It is so profoundly well-documented in multiple different perspectives, all of which give you a consistent view with enormous explanatory power that make it the central core of biology. Trying to do biology without evolution would be like trying to do physics without mathematics

Francis Collins and Karl Giberson Talk about Evolution and the Church, Part 2

 

[Danoded]

Well, most Christians disagree with you.

The truth is that many are being mislead by worldly doctrines sadly.

 

[bhsmte]

The truth is that many are being mislead by worldly doctrines sadly.

If well evidenced reality is unfounded, I suppose so.

 

[Danoded]

What do you think about this scientist, who happens to be a devout Christian? Do you know more about the science then him?

Karl Giberson: One of the things I appreciate a lot about Darrel Falk, who I think is a courageous voice in this conversation, is that he will come out and say that common ancestry is simply a fact. And that if you’re not willing to concede that the genetic evidence points to common ancestry than you’re essentially denying the field of biology the possibility of having facts at all. That’s the strong language that he uses.

Would you say that common ancestry and evolution in general is at that level? How compelling is the evidence at this point?

Francis Collins: The evidence is overwhelming. And it is becoming more and more robust down to the details almost by the day, especially because we have this ability now to use the study of DNA as a digital record of the way Darwin’s theory has played out over the course of long periods of time.

Darwin could hardly have imagined that there would turn out to be such strong proof of his theory because he didn’t know about DNA - but we have that information. I would say we are as solid in claiming the truth of evolution as we are in claiming the truth of the germ theory. It is so profoundly well-documented in multiple different perspectives, all of which give you a consistent view with enormous explanatory power that make it the central core of biology. Trying to do biology without evolution would be like trying to do physics without mathematics

Francis Collins and Karl Giberson Talk about Evolution and the Church, Part 2

I truly do not care for what these people 'believe', as I will firmly stand against evolution as it simply cannot co-exist with what is written in the Bible. I will always know that God created everything, and that evolution was not in His design.

 

[pitabread]

Sorry, but I do not place any value on these scientists, who they themselves are atheists, and who knows what else.

You think all scientists are atheists? Really?

Would it surprise you to learn that scientists come from all sorts of theistic backgrounds including evangelical Christianity? (Francis Collins being a great example.)

I'm not following the false doctrines of this world, which is controlled and operated by satan to deceive and lead the masses away from God. May I ask why do you place so much faith in a man-made 'theory', which has no correlation with that which is written in the Bible?

Biological evolution is the most coherent explanation for the diversity of biological life on Earth, is based on observable mechanisms in nature, and has real-world application in various fields. As such, I accept it as a valid science, at least until something better comes along.

 

[bhsmte]

I truly do not care for what these people 'believe', as I will firmly stand against evolution as it simply cannot co-exist with what is written in the Bible. I will always know that God created everything, and that evolution was not in His design.

Hey, you can think whatever you wish, no one is stopping you. Do you feel threatened that so many disagree with you on the theory of evolution?

Could it be, that it is you that is misled, or is your opinion infallible?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does this then mean, you feel the majority of Christians who agree with evolution, are going against God?

Yes.

 

[AV1611VET]

It makes me wonder if creationists learning about it might help dispel the fear some appear to have about the subject.

Oh, I'm just shaking in my shoes.

Not.

 

[pitabread]

Oh, I'm just shaking in my shoes.

Not.

Well, it's either that or laziness. Either way, the end result seems to be willful ignorance.

 

[Danoded]

Hey, you can think whatever you wish, no one is stopping you. Do you feel threatened that so many disagree with you on the theory of evolution?

Could it be, that it is you that is misled, or is your opinion infallible?

I do not feel threatened at all knowing that I'm following what is the truth, not what satan has conjured up to turn people away from God to follow these false, satanic doctrines. I know that my belief is not an opinion, but a fact. Evolution goes directly against God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, it's either that or laziness.

I suppose faith doesn't play a part in your estimation, does it?

It's easier to call me lazy than it is faithful, isn't it?

 

[bhsmte]

I do not feel threatened at all knowing that I'm following what is the truth, not what satan has conjured up to turn people away from God to follow these false, satanic doctrines. I know that my belief is not an opinion, but a fact. Evolution goes directly against God.

Can you then demonstrate with evidence, your opinion is fact?

 

[bhsmte]

Well, it's either that or laziness. Either way, the end result seems to be willful ignorance.

I think it comes down to fear more than anything. When certain faith beliefs are so crucial to one's psyche, the defense mechanisms get over developed and over utilized.

 

[pitabread]

I suppose faith doesn't play a part in your estimation, does it?

It's easier to call me lazy than it is faithful, isn't it?

I don't see how "faith" would deliberately preclude learning about science. After all, there is nothing to suggest that you necessarily have to agree with evolution just by learning about it.

Now, if you're concerned that learning about it might run contrary to your faith, then there seems to be an element of fear there. It's either that or you just can't be bothered.

So which is it?

 

[Danoded]

Can you then demonstrate with evidence, your opinion is fact?

Because of the fact that it is never written anywhere in the Bible that man evolved from primitive creatures, nor was anything else a result of evolution, but it was God who created everything.