2Cor3:7-11 stands on its own. It plainly states that the 10 are done away.
I don't think so Bob, 2 Corinthians 3:7-11 stands in context with the rest of the chapter as has been shown in
post # 58 with all the supporting scriptures provided.
If God's 10 commandemtns were done away, with then how would you know what sin is ? If you do not have God's commandments you have no knowledge of sin and righteousness (Psalms 119:172; Romans 3:20).
Now think it through...........................
If there is no Law like you are saying. Then there is now no knowledge of sin despite the fact that James, Paul and John all agree this is the purpose of God's Law (
James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20). Anyhow lets follow the outcome of your interpretation....
If there is no Law, then there is now no knowledge of sin. If there is no knowledge of sin then no one will know when they sin and will not know they are sinners. If no one knows they are sinners then they will have no need of a Saviour. If we have no need of a Saviour then we have no salvation. If we have no salvation then we are lost.
Not a very good outcome do you think? That is the outcome of doing away with God's Law.
Then the scripture is fulfilled; They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:12-13)
How can sinners be brought to repentance if they do not know they are sinners? There is a reason why Jesus says Go and learn what that means.
Now harmonize your interpretation of God's Law (10 commandments) being abolished with these scriptures................ No Law NO
SIN and NO RIGHTEOUSNESS (Psalms 119:172) right?
ROMANS
Chapter 1
v5 By whom we have received GRACE AND APOSTLESHIP, for OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name:
v16, For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION to every one that BELIEVES; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
v17, For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Chapter 2
v4, Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and long suffering; not knowing that the GOODNESS OF GOD LEAD YOU TO REPENTANCE?
v5, But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasure up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
v6, WHO WILL RENDER EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS:
v7, To them who by patient continuance in WELL DOING seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life:
v8, But unto them that are contentious, and DO NOT OBEY THE TRUTH, but OBEY UNRIGHTEOUSNESS ,<sin>, indignation and wrath,
v9, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
v10, But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that WORKS GOOD, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:2
v11, For there is no respect of persons with God.
v12, FOR AS MANY AS HAVE SINNED WITHOUT THE LAW SHALL PERISH WITHOUT THE LAW: and AS MANY AS HAVE SINNED IN THE LAW SHALL BE JUDGED BY THE LAW;
v13, For NOT THE HEARERS OF THE LAW ARE JUST BEFORE GOD BUT THE DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED.
Chapter 3
v3, For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
v4, God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou might be justified in thy sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged.
v27, Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
v28, Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
v29, Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
v30, Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
v31, DO WE THEN MAKE VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: YEA WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.
Chapter 6
v1, What shall we say then? SHALL WE CONTINUE IN SIN, that grace may abound?
v2, God forbid. HOW SHALL WE THAT ARE DEAD TO SIN LIVE THERE ANY LONGER?
v6, Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that HENCEFORTH WE SHOULD NOT SERVE SIN.
v7, For HE THAT IS DEAD IS FREED FROM SIN.
v10, For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he lives, HE LIVES UNTO GOD.
v11, Likewise RECKON YOU YOURSELVES INDEED DEAD TO SIN, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
v12, LET NOT SIN THEREFORE REIGN IN YOUR MORTAL BODY, THAT YOU SHOULD OBEY IT IN THE LUSTS THEREOF
v13, NEITHER YIELD YOU YOUR MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO SIN: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of RIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO GOD.
v14, FOR SIN SHALL NOT HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU: FOR YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE.
v15, What then? SHALL WE SIN BECAUSE WE ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE? GOD FORBID.
v16, Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to OBEY, his servants ye are to whom ye OBEY; whether of SIN unto death, or of OBEDIENCE UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS?
v17, But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
v18, BEING MADE FREE FROM SIN, YOU BECAME THE SERVANTS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
v19, I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now YIELD YOURSELVES SERVANTS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO HOLINESS.
v20, For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
v21, What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for THE END OF THOSE THINGS <sin> IS DEATH.
v22, BUT NOW BEING MADE FREE FROM SIN, and become servants to God, ye have your FRUIT UNTO HOLINESS, and the end everlasting life.
v23, For THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH; BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS EVERLASTING LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.
Chapter 7
v7, What shall we say then? IS THE LAW SIN? God forbid. Nay, I HAD NOT KNOWN SIN BUT BY THE LAW: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
v8, But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
v9, For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
v10, And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
v11, For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
v12, WHEREFORE THE LAW IS HOLY AND THE COMMANDMENT HOLY AND JUST AND GOOD.
v13, Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
v14, For we know that THE LAW IS SPIRITUAL: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Chapter 8
v1, There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT.
v2, For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
v3, For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
v4, That THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW MIGHT BE FULFILLED IN US, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
v5, For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
v6, For TO BE CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
v7, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
v8, So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
v9, But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
v10, ¶ And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
v11, But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwells in you.
v12, Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
v13, For IF YOU LIVE AFTER THE FLESH YOU WILL DIE <sin>: but IF YOU THROUGH THE SPIRIT MORTIFY THE DEEDS OF THE BODY YOU SHALL LIVE.
v14, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Chapter 13
v8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another hath fulfilled the law.
v9, For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
v10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
We must believe all the scriptures because this is what we are to live by not some of them (Matthew 4:4).
Who do we believe God or man? Who do we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God or the Word of God?
James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Hebrews 6
4, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6, IF THEY SHOULD FALL AWAY, TO RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE; SEEING THEY CRUCIFY TO THEMSELVES THE SON OF GOD AFRESH AND PUT HIM TO OPEN SHAME. 7, For the earth which drinks in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and brings forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8, But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; WHOSE END IS TO BE BURNED.
Hebrews 10
26, FOR IF WE SIN WILLFULLY AFTER THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, THERE REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS, 27, BUT A FEARFUL LOOKING FOR OF JUDGEMENT AND FIERY INDIGNATION, WHICH SHALL DEVOUR THE ADVERSARIES.
1 John 3
3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, WHOSOEVER COMMITS SIN TRANSGRESSES ALSO THE LAW FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.
5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, WHOSOEVER ABIDES IN HIM SINS NOT: WHOSOEVER SINS HAS NOT SEEN HIM OR KNOWN HIM .
7, Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU: HE THAT DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
8, He that COMMITS SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he MIGHT DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.
9, WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT COMMIT SIN ; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL ARE MANIFEST AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever does not righteousness ,
<Psalms 119:172> is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
1 John 5
2, By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. 3, For this is the love of God, THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: AND HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE NOT HARD
2 John 1:6
And this is love THAT WE WALK AFTER HIS COMMANDMENTS. This is the commandment, that, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Matthew 5
17, Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18, For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19, WHOSOEVER THEREFORE SHALL BREAK ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDMENTS AND SHALL TEACH MEN SO WILL BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL DO AND TEACH THEM, SHALL BE CALLED GREAT IN THE KINGDOM.
Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38, This is the first and great commandment. 39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. (links with
Romans 13:8-10; James 2:8-12)
John 14:15
If ye love me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.
John 15:10
IF YOU KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, YOU SHALL ABIDE IN MY LOVE; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her
seed, which KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and have the testimony of Jesus
Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the Faith of Jesus
Revelations 22:14
Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city
1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS 4, He that says, I know him, and KEEPS NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, is a liar, and the truth is not in
him.
This is not exhaustive but I am exhausted. There is a lot of scripture that does not agree that God's Law has been ABOLISHED. It has only been written in the heart of those who walk by Faith through love in the Spirit.
It's never been about following the law for salvation, its always been about following Christ by faith through love alone. Faith that works by love is what fulfills God's Law in those that walk in His Spirit (
Romans 13:8-10). Obedience is only the fruit of faith and a sign that someone is genuinely following God's Word (
Matthew 7:17-27). If you seek obedience without faith you will never attain it because this is the gift of God written on the heart (
Ephesians 2:8; Galatians 2:16; Hebrews 8:10-12). But if you believe God's Word, your faith will be counted for righteousness in God's eyes (
Romans 1:17; Philippians 3:9). If your faith does not have the fruit of obedience (God's work in you) than you are still in your sins and have not seen him or known him and your faith is dead (
Philippians 2:13; Hebrews 10:26-27; 1 John 2:2-4; 1 John 3:3-9).
There is so many scriptures that say God's Law (10 commandments) are forever.........
The Law of God (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment is the work of God (
Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (
Ecclesiastes 3:14). God's Law is perfect converting the soul (
Psalms 19:7). It is the very standard of the Old and New Covenants (
Exodus 20:1:17, Hebrews 8:10-12). God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people (
Exodus 20:1-22). Jesus says Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away (
Matthew 25:35). Gods Law is still in force today (
Psalms 111:7-8, Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, 1 John 3:5-8, 1 John 2:3-4 etc.). The Law of God reveals sin to us so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4). It is the great standard of the judgement (
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31). God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and the character of God and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood (
Galatians 3:24; Revelation 1:5). '
Seems like a lot of scripture disagrees with your interpretation of God's Law being Abolished.
To be "under the Law" means to be guilty by the Law because of sin...............
Romans 2:12-13
"All who
sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and
all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the
doers of the law shall be justified."
Romans 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law says, it says to them who are
under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are
all under sin
Only those practicing sin are under the Law.
Look forward to your reply...
Only God's Word is true
