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Right! A young lady who works for our local veterinarian has a scripture on her right forearm. Without realizing what it was for, I asked her if I could see it up close. She agreed. I was moved to tears. I smiled, said "that's great!", told her how much God loves her, and we both got glory bumps!
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A while ago my wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and I'm sure that other conversations have arisen also as a result of her willingness to be tattooed in this way. It can be a very meaningful and witness friendly thing to do, right?
 
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Winken:

A while ago my wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and I'm sure that other conversations have arisen also as a result of her willingness to be tattooed in this way. It can be a very meaningful and witness friendly thing to do, right?
Yes ..... I just don't want her (or anyone) to get carried away with tatooing!
 
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Yes ..... I just don't want her (or anyone) to get carried away with tatooing!
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It's actually become very widespread among a particular demographic; I saw this post:

greenvneck said:
I do have one small tattoo that I love. In fact, I would be hard-pressed to come up with more than a handful of names of my friends who DON'T have at least one tattoo--and we are all suburban homeschooling moms, ages ranging from early-30s to mid-50s, living in conservative North Texas.
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It's particularly widespread in the Bible Belt, if sources such as this are to be trusted:


QueenCat said:
Around here (Bible Belt), it is common, especially among evangelical Christians, for the girls under about 40 to have religious tattoos. More do than don't, especially when you get to the under 30 crowd. I hardly know any female at church that is under 30 that does not have a tattoo.
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I know what you mean about not becoming 'carried away'; but I guess the point is that if it has real witness value as a conversation stimulant about a faith based idea in Scripture, it can be of real practical value, if this makes sense?


 
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I actually had a lady come up to me before bible study started to day to ask me about my tattoos. She had heard me talking about them before.
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DathNeo:

Did she have faith based ink also, or maybe is considering it?

The idea of faith based tattoos is getting rather well received among Christians now.
 
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DathNeo:

Did she have faith based ink also, or maybe is considering it?

The idea of faith based tattoos is getting rather well received among Christians now.

No, it's not the norm in a Southern Baptist church and think she was shocked that a guy with tattoos was pretty good with doctrine and apologetics...:)
 
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No, it's not the norm in a Southern Baptist church and think she was shocked that a guy with tattoos was pretty good with doctrine and apologetics...:)
But she seemed to like them, though? or despite not being accustomed to them, did she still seem rather to like the idea?
 
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No, it's not the norm in a Southern Baptist church...
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I guess it depends where you are, really; I referred recently to this report from the Bible Belt, FYI:


QueenCat said:
Around here (Bible Belt), it is common, especially among evangelical Christians, for the girls under about 40 to have religious tattoos. More do than don't, especially when you get to the under 30 crowd. I hardly know any female at church that is under 30 that does not have a tattoo.
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keep the tattoo, get another one that is Christian near it and use it as a means of conversation about Jesus. ...
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Hi; my wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also and I'm sure other conversations have arisen as a result of her willingness to have it done.

It's very much an individual thing; but a lot of Christians - especially young Christians - get faith based tattoos done; maybe you've talked to some who have had them done?
 
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...A young lady who works for our local veterinarian has a scripture on her right forearm. Without realizing what it was for, I asked her if I could see it up close. She agreed. I was moved to tears. I smiled, said "that's great!", told her how much God loves her, and we both got glory bumps!
Winken:

So did you talk to her again lately? :) & did she tell you of any witness experiences?
 
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No matter what your past is God loves and accepts you as long as you believe and have faith in Him. I also have a tattoo that I received long after becoming a christian. It is christian based and I have used it many times to witness to people. That is one of the reasons I got it. If you believe and confess your sins we are washed white as snow. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying your tattoo is a sin, what I am saying is you are forgiven.

Believe in the two greatest commandments, Love God with all your heart and love thy neighbor as yourself. If someone has a problem with your tattoo they need to revisit Love thy neighbor. Just my .02¢
 
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I am curious for others' perceptions and thoughts on this matter.

I have a tattoo that I received several years ago. It is not mainstream offensive, as in it is not vulgar or anything along those lines, but it is a pagan tattoo and at the time I had it done, it represented for me a self-reliance (rather than a reliance on God) in regards to resisting evil. Obviously this was also at a time in my life when I was still thinking in terms that symbolism actually mattered and that it could help me be a good person, as opposed to the internal, unseen hard and complex work of genuinely trying to be a better a person. Suffice to say I was pretty immature compared to real wisdom, and mostly just being rebellious and impulsive.

This tattoo is in a place that is prominent unless I make a deliberate effort to keep it covered with clothing choices. I've also gone through periods of severe guilt about the tattoo, although I by now I've reached the understanding that it's more about what others think. God has always known that I have this tattoo, obviously, but what sort of message does it send to others? And also, what would I look like, professing my faith in Jesus Christ, while standing there with a tribal pagan tattoo.

I don't think I'll ever be able to afford to have it removed. Once I finish my college degree in about a year and can become employed again, I'll probably be able to afford to have it covered up, like just a hand-sized black blotch so that it's well, just a big blotch of ink rather than a specific design. That is the best I could afford to do, aside from mutilating it off of my body and having to go to the emergency room (which is something I've honestly contemplated due to how terrible I feel about it sometimes).

At one point, someone else advised me that maybe I should leave it as it is, and use it as some sort of testimony in regards to how I was once astray enough to get a tattoo like that, but then wound up being saved, but I'm not sure how I feel about that.

It has sort of become like this dark secret of mine. I'm currently seeking a church, for example, as I haven't regularly attended church since I was a child, and of course when I go to visit the churches on my list to try them out in search of the right one for me, I'll be making sure that tattoo is covered up, and I certainly won't be eager to mention it to anyone. So then what happens if when the day comes when I am finally able to be baptized, other people see it. The whole situation just gives me a terrible gut feeling.

Lately I've been trying to reach out and feel for what God wants me to do about it, but I haven't felt confident that I've received a response yet, or some sort of sign.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this sort of situation?

I am curious for others' perceptions and thoughts on this matter.

I have a tattoo that I received several years ago. It is not mainstream offensive, as in it is not vulgar or anything along those lines, but it is a pagan tattoo and at the time I had it done, it represented for me a self-reliance (rather than a reliance on God) in regards to resisting evil. Obviously this was also at a time in my life when I was still thinking in terms that symbolism actually mattered and that it could help me be a good person, as opposed to the internal, unseen hard and complex work of genuinely trying to be a better a person. Suffice to say I was pretty immature compared to real wisdom, and mostly just being rebellious and impulsive.

This tattoo is in a place that is prominent unless I make a deliberate effort to keep it covered with clothing choices. I've also gone through periods of severe guilt about the tattoo, although I by now I've reached the understanding that it's more about what others think. God has always known that I have this tattoo, obviously, but what sort of message does it send to others? And also, what would I look like, professing my faith in Jesus Christ, while standing there with a tribal pagan tattoo.

I don't think I'll ever be able to afford to have it removed. Once I finish my college degree in about a year and can become employed again, I'll probably be able to afford to have it covered up, like just a hand-sized black blotch so that it's well, just a big blotch of ink rather than a specific design. That is the best I could afford to do, aside from mutilating it off of my body and having to go to the emergency room (which is something I've honestly contemplated due to how terrible I feel about it sometimes).

At one point, someone else advised me that maybe I should leave it as it is, and use it as some sort of testimony in regards to how I was once astray enough to get a tattoo like that, but then wound up being saved, but I'm not sure how I feel about that.

It has sort of become like this dark secret of mine. I'm currently seeking a church, for example, as I haven't regularly attended church since I was a child, and of course when I go to visit the churches on my list to try them out in search of the right one for me, I'll be making sure that tattoo is covered up, and I certainly won't be eager to mention it to anyone. So then what happens if when the day comes when I am finally able to be baptized, other people see it. The whole situation just gives me a terrible gut feeling.

Lately I've been trying to reach out and feel for what God wants me to do about it, but I haven't felt confident that I've received a response yet, or some sort of sign.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this sort of situation?
It's always best to refer to what God has told us in His Word and He tells us not to mark our bodies for the dead. He says nothing about any marking that may lead another to Christ. We can drive ourselves mad by trying to follow every rule and that's why He gave us His Grace. Believe and be saved...Enjoy your salvation friends.
 
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She has tattooed a large number of friends and family, to include siblings and her uncle...and is in high demand.
She is great using all kinds of medium, I encourage her to do what she loves.
She was called twice as semi- finalist for face-off and has sold paintings. She just has unschooled (except for tattooing)
Raw natural talent. Very proud of her. Thanks for asking!
 
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She has tattooed a large number of friends and family, to include siblings and her uncle...and is in high demand.
She is great using all kinds of medium, I encourage her to do what she loves.
She was called twice as semi- finalist for face-off and has sold paintings. She just has unschooled (except for tattooing)
Raw natural talent. Very proud of her. Thanks for asking!
ub4me:

Sounds like you are mom to a really talented lady. :)

I guess she hasn't tattooed you? (yet, or maybe unlikely). So are your friends and family who have received ink from her hand pretty satisfied really with what she did?
 
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I also have a tattoo that I received long after becoming a christian. It is christian based and I have used it many times to witness to people. That is one of the reasons I got it.
Yes, this is often a strong motivation among Christians who receive ink; it can be a very effective conversation starter.
 
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ub4me:

Sounds like you are mom to a really talented lady. :)

I guess she hasn't tattooed you? (yet, or maybe unlikely). So are your friends and family who have received ink from her hand pretty satisfied really with what she did?
Very talented! No I never had the desire for ink, though I admire a lot of it... Just isn't me. Lol
Yes everyone is so happy, they have come back for more.
Kind of like having a mechanic in the family... Everybody needs a new part put on. Ha!
 
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Very talented! No I never had the desire for ink, though I admire a lot of it... Just isn't me. Lol
Yes everyone is so happy, they have come back for more.
Kind of like having a mechanic in the family... Everybody needs a new part put on. Ha!
Very proud of her.
ub4me:

Inkless, you can still be very proud of a daughter who is tattooed and who tattoos so well! :)
 
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the Maori seem to becoming more tattooed of recent times
Hi; so do you think that the increase in ink among Maori is as a result of Western influence? or do you on the other hand think that Western tattooing is more influenced these days by tribal/indigenous tattoo traditions?
 
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Hi; so do you think that the increase in ink among Maori is as a result of Western influence? or do you on the other hand think that Western tattooing is more influenced these days by tribal/indigenous tattoo traditions?
The tradition of tattooing waned in the last century due to strong European influence in New Zealand that dragged the whole of Maori culture to a low ebb.

However, inline with many oppressed cultures internationally, Maori have experience a renaissance of culture and Maori tattoo has formed a part of that. This, alongside the current general trend for all types of tattoing has lead to a strong increase in Maori tattoo whether culturally linked or otherwise.

The facial Moko is not influenced by Western things. The Moko tells a story of the Whanau (family) and Iwi (tribe) of the wearer and this is not a Western story (except for a few instances where gang members display thier loyalty to ther gang family in this way)

Western tattooing IMO is incredibly varied. Yes it is heavily influenced by the indigenous thing but when you look at the stuff on display, I really don't think the proportion (of indigenous influence) is hugely more representative than it has been in the past.
 
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The tradition of tattooing waned in the last century due to strong European influence in New Zealand that dragged the whole of Maori culture to a low ebb.

However, inline with many oppressed cultures internationally, Maori have experience a renaissance of culture and Maori tattoo has formed a part of that. This, alongside the current general trend for all types of tattoing has lead to a strong increase in Maori tattoo whether culturally linked or otherwise.

The facial Moko is not influenced by Western things. The Moko tells a story of the Whanau (family) and Iwi (tribe) of the wearer and this is not a Western story (except for a few instances where gang members display thier loyalty to ther gang family in this way)

Western tattooing IMO is incredibly varied. Yes it is heavily influenced by the indigenous thing but when you look at the stuff on display, I really don't think the proportion (of indigenous influence) is hugely more representative than it has been in the past.
Thanks a lot for the interesting info!

Among Westerners, as you'll know there has been a huge increase of women as well as men getting tattooed (apparently 59%-70% or more of parlors clients in North America are female); so do you reckon that the incidence of Maori women getting tattooed is as great as among Westerners?

(Seems like the different influences are going in both directions, sometimes, although not at the same rate.)
 
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Thanks a lot for the interesting info!

Among Westerners, as you'll know there has been a huge increase of women as well as men getting tattooed (apparently 59%-70% or more of parlors clients in North America are female); so do you reckon that the incidence of Maori women getting tattooed is as great as among Westerners?

(Seems like the different influences are going in both directions, sometimes, although not at the same rate.)
I have recently seen many more women with Moko kauae. I do think this reflects the more general cultural infuence because of the feminine tendency to be more likely to stay in step with the general culture for the sake of the family. A man may make a bold statement that rocks the boat but the woman has children and elders to take care of.
 
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