Hal A Peno
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Real intelligent answer, of course you can overcome my points of emphasis so why even try, kudos.Nope. No gaps.
Buwahhaha. It will be some day! As it stands right now it has robbed three generations of Christians of a scriptural vision for the future. One that coincides with well over a hundred chapters of (non end time prophecies) that apply to this age. The penalty for the crime though will not manifest now while there is such darkness in the land over it. Only when the light breaks forth and people stubbornly hold on to their error will divine judgment break forth in the form of a penalty for a crime. Right now we are just reaping what we a are sowing. Which is basically manifesting in a very motivated and radical minority of the wicked are ruling over us. Because believer simply don't know their duty and calling to overcome them spiritually and politically.There are so many troubles with pre-trib the idea should be classified as criminal.
Why indeed. Especially since it came to pass exactly as it said. When he messiah came the city and sanctuary were destroyed. But just like the religious folk of Jesus' day expected the Messiah to ride in on a white horse and deliver them from the Romans and set up a physical visible kingdom on earth. The religious folk today are still waiting for that white horse and physical visible kingdom. So.....there has to be a gap. Just has to.I'm post trib and I don't accept Daniel's 70th week.
Why would the prophecy of “seventy weeks indicate anything but 70 sequential weeks? Why would this biblical time period start, then stop at what the experts call a 'gap,' and then start up again some 2000 years later? If that's the case then the week following the 69th week really isn't the 70th week since there's a 2000 year gap! The passage doesn't mention anything about tribulation, an anti-Christ, or the rebuilding of a temple, or animal sacrifices. The passage in verse 25 and 26 speak about the Messiah. So grammatically speaking it makes no sense that verse 27 would suddenly completely change into speaking about the anti-Christ. The Messiah being “cut off" is referring to Christ’s death.
Real intelligent answer, of course you can overcome my points of emphasis so why even try, kudos.
Buwahhaha. It will be some day! As it stands right now it has robbed three generations of Christians of a scriptural vision for the future. One that coincides with well over a hundred chapters of (non end time prophecies) that apply to this age. The penalty for the crime though will not manifest now while there is such darkness in the land over it. Only when the light breaks forth and people stubbornly hold on to their error will divine judgment break forth in the form of a penalty for a crime. Right now we are just reaping what we a are sowing. Which is basically manifesting in a very motivated and radical minority of the wicked are ruling over us. Because believers simply don't know their duty and calling to overcome them spiritually and politically.
All post-trib proponents do not believe in a gap.
Sorry, David PT; Perhaps I should have worded it :
NOT all post-trib proponents believe in a gap
or
not 100% of post-tribbers believe in a gap
or
some post-tribbers believe in a gap, some don't
is that better?
And I know this because of what posters on boards tell me
Why would the prophecy of “seventy weeks indicate anything but 70 sequential weeks? Why would this biblical time period start, then stop at what the experts call a 'gap,' and then start up again some 2000 years later? If that's the case then the week following the 69th week really isn't the 70th week since there's a 2000 year gap!
Deuteronomy 18That's some messed up reasoning if you think there are no exceptions to that. What if a person went to court for a crime, the judge then sentences him or her to 30 hours community service, where 3 hours a day, excluding weekends, has be fulfilled until 30 hours are finished? That's not 30 sequential hours, so going by your reasoning above, since there would be gaps, it isn't really 30 hours at all.
During a gap nothing is being counted towards. So it still makes it the 70th week no matter what. And why not? If the 70th week is basically a specified time where certain things are to occur during it, why does it matter if this specified time doesn't immediately follow the preceding 69 weeks?
Deuteronomy 18
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Your decapitated 70th week fails the test.
Daniel 9:24I'm not seeing the connection here. As far as I can tell, the 70th week hasn't even begun yet. Kind of hard to conclude at this point it doesn't come to pass, if when it's supposed to come to pass, isn't even here yet.
When Jesus returns and that the 70th week never came to pass just prior to that, only then would it be safe to conclude some of us were wrong about the 70th week after all.
You're trying to put the cart before the horse. It would be like someone prophesying a certain thing will happen on a certain date, then another person telling them their alleged prophecy has failed, before this certain date even arrives. You wait for this certain date to come and go first, then you judge whether the prophecy failed or not.
Sorry, David PT; Perhaps I should have worded it :
NOT all post-trib proponents believe in a gap
or
not 100% of post-tribbers believe in a gap
or
some post-tribbers believe in a gap, some don't
is that better?
And I know this because of what posters on boards tell me
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined...
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
determine
A primitive root; properly, to cut off, i.e. (figuratively) to decree -- determine.
How do you cut off at 70 if you've already cut off at 69?