[POLL] Should Christians Rest and Keep Holy the Sabbath Day?

[Bob S]

The Law That Hangs (Matthew 22:40): Rabbinic Formulation and Matthean Social World on JSTOR

http://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2382&context=auss&sei-redir=1&referer=https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=Matt+22+hang+all+the+law+and+the+prophets&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C36&as_sdtp=#search="Matt 22 hang all law prophets"

Law and prophets depend on two commandments (see pp 16) not the other way around.

This is important. If we get subject and predicate mixed up we will reverse the relationship.

Loving God and our neighbor fulfills the law and the prophets teaching.

If we reverse that relationship we have in the Matthean account we get legalism. Following commandments is univocal with love of God and neighbor. Strangely it would mean that Matthew records an account of Jesus in dispute with the religious leaders and radically agreeing with their legalism!

Our love of God and our neighbor is nor dependent on keeping all the law and the prophets. That is what the religious leaders of Jesus day thought and Jesus rebuffed them unmercifully every chance he got for their legalism.

The law and the prophets could not save and were not meant to be for salvation. This is where people get confused. Salvation has nothing to do with keeping Torah. Torah was, laws to govern the Israelites. Someone please explain why I would need or even want to observe laws that governed Israel? Jesus was under those laws, fulfilled them, brought them to an end and ratified the new covenant with His own blood. Anyone that teaches otherwise has no idea about the plan of salvation.

 

[listed]

Don't let anybody persuade you to disobey God's command to remember/keep/guard the Sabbath

Don't allow any one to persuade you to keep the law issued at Sinai. It has nothing to do with salvation, pre or post.

Remember what Christ said:

The Sabbath was made for man.

Nothing but an out of context statement. Jesus is talking exclusively to Jews required to keep the sabbath. This isn't required of anyone else. Exodus 31 makes this very clear.

The goal of the devil is to get us to discard and disobey God's commands. If you find anybody encouraging you and teaching you to disobey God, or to stop obeying/keeping His commands, think long and hard about that person - it's not a person you should be listening to

No the devil's goal is to get tp refuse grace and return to or follow the law. The devil desperately wants you in defeat and discouragement to turn you against God or cause you to stop believing God.

Love of God = obeying His commandments(which includes Sabbath)

Not according to Jeremiah or the Apostle John.

According to God in Deuteronomy 13, persuading and enticing people to disobey and abandon God's commands is worthy of death. It's that serious. God doesn't like people leading his children astray.

No it's just followers of God (both deceived and pseudo). An example of this would be 1 John 3:23.

There are plenty of people everywhere(including this board) doing the above mentioned. Be careful. Peace.

Sure are.

 

[CDF47]

I am traveling, so I do not have internet service all the time. Excuse me for not answering promptly. The text that explains that the forefathers didn't have the law.

Hear, Israel, the decrees and laws I declare in your hearing today. Learn them and be sure to follow them. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our ancestors that the Lord made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today.

The truth is that Torah was not given to Israel as a covenant of salvation. It was a covenant of laws to govern the Israelites as the sojourned in the desert and while living in the promised land of Canaan. God, in the prelude to the 10 commandments, told Moses what the covenant was for. Here read it for yourself.


3 Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain and said, “This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: 4 ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

God didn't tell Moses anything about Torah, the covenant, being the plan of salvation. Keeping Sabbath was not for salvation purposes, it was the way the Israelites were to live in their new home. I have laws here in Tennessee that govern how I am to live. God did the same for Israel. We are not in Israel. We do not have to live by those rules. In fact, Biblical Israel's covenant ended at the Cross where Jesus shed His own Blood ratifying and introducing us to His new covenant. He had fulfilled, brought to an end, the old covenant of Torah and gave us the covenant of salvation. SDAs absolutely do not want you to know the real truth, but it is there in the Bible just waiting for us to open the pages and see the beautiful promises of grace. Please read the writings of Paul, especially 2Cor3:7-11

The Greater Glory of the New Covenant
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

Paul is telling us that the 10 commandments were glorious. "Were" is past tense. He wrote that the 10 were transitory or temporary. If we study the 10 we can see why. They are like a college 101 course, very basic. They are not the only way we can and do ill will to or neighbors and God. The greatest commandment ever is not part of the 10. That one is Jesus new commandment to love others as He loves us. The 10 have nothing to say about loving God our fellow man. All of the commandments are about duty not love. Duty as the way to live in the land that Gd gave them. Read them.

God's plan of salvation to the Israelites was just the same as it was for Abraham. Moses knew it and of course wrote about it. I am sure he passed it down to those he was the leader. All God's children are saved by grace, not by keeping Torah or the laws of where you live.

I agree we are saved by grace and not by the Law. However, the Law hangs on the two greatest commandments. The Lord said if you love me keep my commandments. There are many references to the commandments in the NT, including the Lord saying none of them will change until the heavens and earth are done away. The Ten Commandments are the moral law which do show how to love God and neighbor and they are not just a civil law. The civil laws were separate from the Moral Law.

 

[CDF47]

Doesn't you Bible have verse 3? In mine it's a very plain statement in regard to your question. What is wrong with picking up a Bible and reading it?

I read it. Was just asking the point. It was a new covenant then. It also says the commandments last forever in Deut 5.

 

[CDF47]

I do understand you're not SDA. One good thing in your favor. Your problem is you're still infected with their teaching.

No, not infected with their teaching, just trying to discern the truth from the fiction. It is not always that easy.

 

[listed]

I agree we are saved by grace and not by the Law. However, the Law hangs on the two greatest commandments. The Lord said if you love me keep my commandments. There are many references to the commandments in the NT, including the Lord saying none of them will change until the heavens and earth are done away. The Ten Commandments are the moral law which do show how to love God and neighbor and they are not just a civil law. The civil laws were separate from the Moral Law.

No, the law is a single indivisible unit.

 

[CDF47]

The law and the prophets could not save and were not meant to be for salvation. This is where people get confused. Salvation has nothing to do with keeping Torah. Torah was, laws to govern the Israelites. Someone please explain why I would need or even want to observe laws that governed Israel? Jesus was under those laws, fulfilled them, brought them to an end and ratified the new covenant with His own blood. Anyone that teaches otherwise has no idea about the plan of salvation.

What about Mathhew 5:18, "For verily I say unto you, Till. heaven and earth pass, one jot or one. tittle shall in nowise pass from. the law, till all be fulfilled." Does this refer to Jesus fulfilling the Law?

 

[listed]

I read it. Was just asking the point. It was a new covenant then. It also says the commandments last forever in Deut 5.

Jeremiah says the covenant issued at Sinai will be replaced. Jesus says the and a new covenant is in force. That being said I don't understand the misrepresentation and failure to consider the rest of the Scripture. I do believe you read selective passages ignoring many others. To me this isn't Bible reading.

 

[listed]

What about Mathhew 5:18, "For verily I say unto you, Till. heaven and earth pass, one jot or one. tittle shall in nowise pass from. the law, till all be fulfilled." Does this refer to Jesus fulfilling the Law?

What about Hebrews 7:
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Is the above Scripture and true?

 

[listed]

No, not infected with their teaching, just trying to discern the truth from the fiction. It is not always that easy.

The passages we're posting from the NT leading one to the truth are routinely being rejected. Jesus said: All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. Jesus isn't talking about current religious leaders.

Luke says:The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Are either of those passages true?

 

[CDF47]

Jeremiah says the covenant issued at Sinai will be replaced. Jesus says the and a new covenant is in force. That being said I don't understand the misrepresentation and failure to consider the rest of the Scripture. I do believe you read selective passages ignoring many others. To me this isn't Bible reading.

I read the entire Bible and I do not look for selective passages. I try to take everything into context I find the absolute truth. There is absolutely nothing I take more seriously than the Word of God.

 

[CDF47]

What about Hebrews 7:
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Is the above Scripture and true?

The above Scripture is true. So you may be right if you believe that the verse I provided was Jesus implying that He was going to fulfill the entire law.

 

[CDF47]

The passages we're posting from the NT leading one to the truth are routinely being rejected. Jesus said: All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. Jesus isn't talking about current religious leaders.

Luke says:The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Are either of those passages true?

Both passages are true.

When Daniel stated the little horn would try to change the times and laws he was referring to the papacy. The papacy changed the laws by moving them around and combining others. How did they change the times? The papacy takes credit for changing the Saturday Sabbath to Sunday. Do you know of another way this prophecy can be interpreted?

 

[BobRyan]

Sabbath day can be a good day of rest although it can be restrictive at times. Still trying to figure out what Daniel meant by changing laws and times though because that did make sense what SDA taught.

Mark 7:6-13 comes to mind.

” 6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

I could see maybe how it's related SDA time change if that is what you meant.

In a general sense it condemns the tweaking of any of God's Commandments in order to service/please the preferences of man made traditions.

we also know this --

Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!!

Here Pope John Paul argues two points in his document "Dies Domini"

1. That the TEN Commandments (all TEN... not just NINE ) still remain. What does that mean about the SABBATH Commandment? gone - or remains? or bent to point to??

2. In the second quote John Paul II Refers to the OT Sabbath as the LORD's Day -

Pope John Paul II

Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!! In setting this commandment within the context of the basic structure of ethics, Israel and then the church declare that they consider it not just a matter of community religious discipline but a defining and indelible expression of our relationship to God, announced and expounded by biblical revelations.

Dies Domini

From the Sabbath to Sunday

18. Because the Third (the Sabbath) Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God's saving works and because Christians saw the definitive time inaugurated by Christ as a new beginning, they made the first day after the Sabbath a festive day, for that was the day on which the Lord rose from the dead. The Paschal Mystery of Christ is the full revelation of the mystery of the world's origin, the climax of the history of salvation and the anticipation of the eschatological fulfilment of the world. What God accomplished in Creation and wrought for his People in the Exodus has found its fullest expression in Christ's Death and Resurrection, though its definitive fulfilment will not come until the Parousia, when Christ returns in glory. In him, the "spiritual" meaning of the Sabbath is fully realized, as Saint Gregory the Great declares: "For us, the true Sabbath is the person of our Redeemer, our Lord Jesus Christ".(14) This is why the joy with which God, on humanity's first Sabbath, contemplates all that was created from nothing, is now expressed in the joy with which Christ, on Easter Sunday, appeared to his disciples, bringing the gift of peace and the gift of the Spirit (cf. Jn 20:19-23). It was in the Paschal Mystery that humanity, and with it the whole creation, "groaning in birth-pangs until now" (Rom 8:22), came to know its new "exodus" into the freedom of God's children who can cry out with Christ, "Abba, Father!" (Rom 8:15; Gal 4:6). In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord's Day is recovered, perfected and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the Risen Christ (cf. 2 Cor 4:6). We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini becomes the dies Christi!

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The Catholic Commentary on the Baltimore Catechism post Vatican II - argues the SAME two points.

1965 -- first published 1959

(from "The Faith Explained" page 243

"we know that in the O.T it was the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath day- which was observed as the Lord's day. that was the law as God gave it...'remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.. the early Christian church determined as the Lord's day the first day of the week. That the church had the right to make such a law is evident...

The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double holy...

nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday..that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many non-Catholic who say they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church

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In these quotes we see "TEN Commandments" and "DECALOGUE" not "630"

2056 The word "Decalogue" means literally "ten words."11 God revealed these "ten words" to his people on the holy mountain. They were written "with the finger of God,"12 unlike the other commandments written by Moses.

2072 Since they express man's fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations.They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. the Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.


these Catholic Catechism statements seem to support what John Paul II and what "The Faith Explained" have said in their two points above --

2056 The word "Decalogue" means literally "ten words."11 God revealed these "ten words" to his people on the holy mountain. They were written "with the finger of God,"12 unlike the other commandments written by Moses.13 They are pre-eminently the words of God. They are handed on to us in the books of Exodus 14 and Deuteronomy.15 Beginning with the Old Testament, the sacred books refer to the "ten words,"16 but it is in the New Covenant in Jesus Christ that their full meaning will be revealed.

2072 Since they express man's fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, grave obligations.They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. the Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.

2063.... the words of the Decalogue remain likewise for us Christians. Far from being abolished, they have received amplification and development from the fact of the coming of the Lord in the flesh.26

2068 The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christiansand that the justified man is still bound to keep them;28 The Second Vatican Council confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments."29

(Application in James 2)
2069 The Decalogue forms a coherent whole. Each "word" refers to each of the others and to all of them; they reciprocally condition one another. the two tables shed light on one another; they form an organic unity. To transgress one commandment is to infringe all the others.30 One cannot honor another person without blessing God his Creator. One cannot adore God without loving all men, his creatures. the Decalogue brings man's religious and social life into unity.


Key question:

In legal terms - what does it mean to change one of the TEN commandments in the law - so that its obligation, its authority, its observance is now transferred to some other day - other than the one as given in that Command??

Note from the above quote --

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The Catholic Commentary on the Baltimore Catechism post Vatican II - argues the SAME two points.

1965 -- first published 1959

(from "The Faith Explained" page 243

"we know that in the O.T it was the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath day- which was observed as the Lord's day. that was the law as God gave it...'remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.. the early Christian church determined as the Lord's day the first day of the week. That the church had the right to make such a law is evident...

The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double holy...

nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday..that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many non-Catholic who say they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church

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Do you mean edit out passages of the Gospel of John like 3:16; 5:24; chapter 10 and 15:10?

Of course not.

No need to "edit out' the words of Christ just so you can accept what He taught.

"if you Love Me Keep My Commandments" John 14:!5


Mark 7:6-13 comes to mind.

” 6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

"what matters is keeping the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19

Or how about Luke 16:16; 22:20 and 24:44. What about Hebrews 7:12 and 8:6? What about Jeremiah 31:32?

All good scripture including Jeremiah 31:31-33 where under the NEW Covenant God writes "His LAW on the heart and mind"

 

[BobRyan]

some here handle the Bible like a cult group handles the bible.
IGNORED

emotionalism much??

 

[BobRyan]

I will read your comments and do accept the Ten Commandments are still in force to the extent the HS writes them on our heart. We will have to disagree on where we land qua how we define obedience to God's commands.

Back to the Bible -- how does the Bible measure/define/dictate compliance??

Ex 20
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Lev 23:
3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is The Sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is The Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings

Is 66:23
"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship"

Acts 18:4
4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

Isaiah 58:13
13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words

While I personally would not wish for the Pope to explain such simple and straightforward texts to me in Italian - I do admit that they are as easy to read as "do not take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7

 

[BobRyan]

None of those scholars teach or practice the sabbath. Genesis 2 says nothing about a day of worship. We both know it.

Even D.L. Moody agrees that the Sabbath was binding on all mankind - starting in Eden.

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D.L. Moody notices that some are opposed to the Sabbath Commandment - but notice how this sermon on the TEN Commandments also fits the summary of 7 points listed here on page 1??

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS text by D. L. Moody

BY THE
DWIGHT L. MOODY
The Ten Commandments:
Exodus 20:2-17
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The Fourth Commandment


Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the LORD made heaven and Earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath Day, and hallowed it.​

THERE HAS BEEN an awful letting-down in this country regarding the Sabbath during the last twenty-five years, and many a man has been shorn of spiritual power, like Samson, because he is not straight on this question. Can you say that you observe the Sabbath properly? You may be a professed Christian: are you obeying this commandment? Or do you neglect the house of God on the Sabbath day, and spend your time drinking and carousing in places of vice and crime, showing contempt for God and His law? Are you ready to step into the scales? Where were you last Sabbath? How did you spend it?

I honestly believe that this commandment is just as binding today as it ever was. I have talked with men who have said that it has been abrogated, but they have never been able to point to any place in the Bible where God repealed it. When Christ was on earth, He did nothing to set it aside; He freed it from the traces under which the scribes and Pharisees had put it, and gave it its true place.
"The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." (Mark 2:27)
It is just as practicable and as necessary for men today as it ever was- in fact, more than ever, because we live in such an intense age.

The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. The fourth commandment begins with the word remember, showing that the Sabbath already existed when God wrote this law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?

I believe that the Sabbath question today is a vital one for the whole country. It is the burning question of the present time. If you give up the Sabbath the church goes;

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This Sabbath Commandment section of Moody's Ten Commandment sermon goes quot]on with more detail. Here is a segment of that same section -- the ending concluding segment - that might help shed even more light on Moody's Intent - #229 post is on this


Even D.L. Moody agrees that the Sabbath was binding on all mankind - starting in Eden.

No DL Moody doesn't agree and practice the 7th day sabbath.

Read the actual post.


Even D.L. Moody agrees that the Sabbath was binding on all mankind - starting in Eden.

This detail is irrefutable

Bugkiller proved this with a quote from your quotted and referenced site.

but did not prove that my claim is in error when I said - "Even D.L. Moody agrees that the Sabbath was binding on all mankind - starting in Eden." -- as we all know.

I love reminding people of the "details".

 

[listed]

All good scripture including Jeremiah 31:31-33 where under the NEW Covenant God writes "His LAW on the heart and mind"

No time for you today.

 

[BobRyan]

The law and the prophets could not save and were not meant to be for salvation. .

Usually I have a hard time agreeing with some part of your post - but that part does ring true.. so then.. yes I agree with that. The LAW was not given "as a Saviour for lost sinners" rather the LAW is written on the heart under the NEW Covenant for those that are saved saints... and for the lost well it merely condemns them as being "the lost".

 

[CDF47]

Mark 7:6-13 comes to mind.

” 6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”



In a general sense it condemns the tweaking of any of God's Commandments in order to service/please the preferences of man made traditions.

we also know this --



Note from the above quote --

=============================================

The Catholic Commentary on the Baltimore Catechism post Vatican II - argues the SAME two points.

1965 -- first published 1959

(from "The Faith Explained" page 243

"we know that in the O.T it was the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath day- which was observed as the Lord's day. that was the law as God gave it...'remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.. the early Christian church determined as the Lord's day the first day of the week. That the church had the right to make such a law is evident...

The reason for changing the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday lies in the fact that to the Christian church the first day of the week had been made double holy...

nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day from Saturday to Sunday..that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many non-Catholic who say they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church

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Of course not.

No need to "edit out' the words of Christ just so you can accept what He taught.

"if you Love Me Keep My Commandments" John 14:!5


Mark 7:6-13 comes to mind.

” 6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”

"what matters is keeping the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19






All good scripture including Jeremiah 31:31-33 where under the NEW Covenant God writes "His LAW on the heart and mind"

Yeah, and the little horn power is clearly the papacy in my opinion so it could only be their change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday that I can think of. I think Protestants got this right.