victorinus
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thanksWhere do you find Rome or the Pope in prophecy? There's not one verse that implies Rome has anything to do with the end-times. Can you quote ONE?
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thanksWhere do you find Rome or the Pope in prophecy? There's not one verse that implies Rome has anything to do with the end-times. Can you quote ONE?
babylon is that great city -Babylon is the World
You need to learn what that means.....I guess. I have seen your posts around a long time, not being mean spirited, but there is a reason I don't usually reply brother.babylon is that great city -
that is what the bible says
Rev 13 has 2 beasts but also mentions the dragon-beast from other chapters. 3 in total. These beasts are not people. The beast from the sea (called antichrist) in particular is composed of 10 kings, 7 kingdoms, and 8 other kings (lol). The red-dragon beast is ridden by a woman who is also identified as a city...what is this based on? -
I only see two beasts in the apocalypse
I'll try...do you understand why john would seemingly introduce himself three times within nine verses of the first chapter? -
no one does -
no one even tries to explain it -
when I first heard it suggested that john the baptist wrote the first apocalypse, I thought it was ridiculous
-but-
after many years of research, I find it is the only thing that explains all the confusion over what the apocalypse is all about -
my blog has all the details on this
the dragon is not a beast, it gives power to the beastsRev 13 has 2 beasts but also mentions the dragon-beast from other chapters. 3 in total. These beasts are not people.
nice try -I'll try...
Rev 1:1 Mentions John in the Introduction of the chapter... Which would not originally have been part of the actual letter sent to the churches...
Rev 1:4 Is the salutation of the letter itself...
Rev 1:9, John is talking about how he was PREVIOUSLY in patmos and received visions and wrote the book that is contained in the letter that he's writing...
This is what happens to a good introduction when a book that is also a letter contains another book inside of it (lol)...
nice try -
take a look at eusebius and victorinus -
neither one recognizes the churches or antipas
-but-
they know about the apocalypse -
makes you wonder what they were looking at -
the first apocalypse written by john the baptist
In your Apocalypse Thread you asked me to get out of your thread so obviously you don't like push back, and I think you are pretty much in error on every post, so we would just be at odds on every post, so I just don't reply, if you liked push back I might, but seeing as you don't I just decided to avoid your posts for the most part.what is it?
I have seen that site before. Make your argument, because America is not nor can it be Babylon. Babylon is not even a place. We can debate it, but I have already read all of those IDEAS as put forth by many. My argument against their arguments is laid out here.....On this very site...in a thread about Babylon.Everyone has their opinions
IF you are looking for VERIFIABLE FACTUAL EVIDENCE to cut through all the non-sense, here is a good place to start
IS AMERICA - Great City Harlot Mystery Babylon Revelation 17? The Evidence is Overwhelming!
easy reading, comprehensive
the dragon is not a beast, it gives power to the beasts
I have seen that site before. Make your argument, because America is not nor can it be Babylon. Babylon is not even a place. We can debate it, but I have already read all of those IDEAS as put forth by many. My argument against their arguments is laid out here.....On this very site...in a thread about Babylon.
Babylon, The Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained
I have seen that site before. Make your argument, because America is not nor can it be Babylon. Babylon is not even a place. We can debate it, but I have already read all of those IDEAS as put forth by many. My argument against their arguments is laid out here.....On this very site...in a thread about Babylon.
Babylon, The Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained