This is to ambiguous, can you be more specific. How did sin cause us to be cast out of the Garden? I guess I will be more specific in the question. How did Adam sin that caused death to all?
If animals die can they see God, be near Him?
Sure they can, because all that they are are results of God’s doing. They have no input. Individual input comes when a choice is available. God told Adam not to access this ability, because he had not subdued his body through being near God, through access to the Holy Spirit. When Adam did not follow the warning, he ended up with a choice-able mind stuck in a good-unable body. This was disastrous, because it meant he couldn't have fellowship, be indwelt with the Holy Spirit anymore. The presence of God would have destroyed Him. He had to leave the presence of God. Separation from God is breaking the life giving link, the link which enables the subduing of the deeds of the body through the Holy Spirit.
This response presents more problems. If according to you, if it is not us that sinned in the Garden. Then why do we get punished for something we did not do? You place the consequence of Adam's sin on us, but leave out what actually caused this judgement, why?
Adam's children are all born out of the Garden. That is separation from God. What caused this transition is Adam’s not listening to the warning.
Huh? People between Adam & Moses were already condemned in Adam to death. Their personal sins does not matter here, because there was no law, and where there is no Law, no sin is counted against them. But death still reigned because of the sentence of condemnation unto death in Adam. This you guys agree too, but for some reason do not want to accept this, why?
Death still reigned because death is separation from God. No one has re entered the garden till Christ.
If you really stop and think about what you just wrote. You will see that it is inconsistent. We receive death for something we did not do. But death is the cause of our death??? Paul clearly says that death came through sin. And in Romans 6 Paul says the wages 'OF' sin is death. In Ephesians 2 Paul say we are dead 'IN' trespasses & sins. In Psalms 51:5, King David,
5Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Death is what causes sin. Being cut off from God means we have lost the ability to be completed, often mistranslated as “perfected”. We are all born separated from God’
Christ the Pascal Lamb is our final sin offering that is needed to save his people from their sins. His resurrection is our freedom from death, when He was raised for our Justification. So both evils are taken of in Christ, not JUST death. That's why I find it hard to understand your view point.
Baptism brings us to the entrance of the Promised Land. Faith, loyalty allows us to enter. Loyalty allows us to have God’s grace. When Christ died, His blood cleansed humanity, the new Man. Those who are loyal to God are joined to the new Man.
Remeber, those who entered the promised land were fed not because of self effort, but by loyalty:
Deuteronomy 6:
10“Then it shall come about when the LORD your God brings you into the land which He swore to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you, great and splendid cities which you did not build,
11and houses full of all good things which you did not fill, and hewn cisterns which you did not dig, vineyards and olive trees which you did not plant, and you eat and are satisfied,
12then watch yourself, that you do not forget the LORDwho brought you from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Deuteronomy 11:
8“You shall therefore keep every commandment which I am commanding you today, so that you may be strong and go in and possess the land into which you are about to cross to possess it;
9so that you may prolong your days on the land which the LORD swore to your fathers to give to them and to their descendants, a land flowing with milk and honey.
10“For the land, into which you are entering to possess it, is not like the land of Egypt from which you came, where you used to sow your seed and water it with your foot like a vegetable garden.
11“But the land into which you are about to cross to possess it, a land of hills and valleys, drinks water from the rain of heaven,
12a land for which the LORD your God cares; the eyes of the LORD your God are always on it, from the beginning even to the end of the year.
13“It shall come about, if you listen obediently to my commandments which I am commanding you today, to love the LORD your God and to serve Him with all your heart and all your soul,
14that He will give the rain for your land in its season, the early and late rain, that you may gather in your grain and your new wine and your oil.
15“He will give grass in your fields for your cattle, and you will eat and be satisfied.
16“Beware that your hearts are not deceived, and that you do not turn away and serve other gods and worship them.
17“Or the anger of the LORD will be kindled against you, and He will shut up the heavens so that there will be no rain and the ground will not yield its fruit; and you will perish quickly from the good land which the LORD is giving you.
Hebrews 4:For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.
